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if we are talking realism here then yes there should be cars everywhere but no fuel. I think a nice balance would be best, have more vehicles spawn then there currently is and take away the majority of fuel tanks

Yeah pretty similar to what we've done. Constantly moving vehicles/camps every time they got found sucked the fun out of the game. Since we've stopped making camps and started venturing into the hot spots more it's been a lot more enjoyable. Couple of our guys ditched the L85 recently as they got fed up with it, would be interesting to see how things changed if they did remove it, would make ghillie suits a lot more powerful than they are already as unless you have superb eyesight, the L85 is by far the easiest way to spot a ghillied player.

+1 for the horses! They would compensate the missing vehicles and they would have to eat & drink from time to time, so no more hidden vehicles/horses outside of the map boundaries.

Hehe we found those vehicles earlier that evening so decided to go looking for trouble as we have found it dosent matter where we hide stuff it always gets found[even bikes in trees]. Was abit gutting i missed most of the decent action as i was just sat shooting the infected that ran to the sniper fire,and keeping eyes on the cars incase someone ran up and tried to steal one.Ionly had a SAW as im getting sick of carrying that silly thermal gun about[realy want them to remove it].

I have been stuck in the same place you are! You could team up with players (that is what makes this game REALLY fun) find vehicles, make camp setups. I would highly suggest that you should play on expert in a high populated server.

There's no point until duping is fixed. Duping can't be fixed in the mod, only in standalone. Not to mention all the hackers who can just spawn items in non-stop for all their friends. Same with vehicles. It sucks, it really does, but there's really not a lot that can be done about it.

We all need a fresh start. Things have gotten past the point of stupidity. Tents are everywhere with uber military grade items that respawn every 6 hours (reset). Vehicles are hoarded by clans or hidden off the map and every second noob is running around with an AS50, not to mention the amount of hacked in items. Please wipe and restart from scratch.

Testing it today - so we can say: that vehicles are spawned id < 12000 what is with saving inventory after a restart of server / saving position / saving type of car?

Pure luck that we found you last night but it was awesome. I was walking back to the group when I stumbled into the firefight that you were having with the other squad that was up on the hill. Didn't know who was there at the time so figured they had seen and were shooting at me when I saw the vehicles you guys turned up in off to my side. Hid in a tree whilst you were still shooting at the other group and called in WHAT21A & Strip who were nearby - think at one point there were eight of us within that small area (you three, three of us and the remaining two of the other group). Knew where you guys were so just got WHAT21A to flank you while you were focused on the other group, he picked you all off one by one. Seeing Xinoth and Tyrgrim spin round from shooting the other squad to try and get eyes on WHAT21A when you went down was quite funny - really wish I had recorded it.

Uhm.. Glad you know where you spawn i suggest running back to the east? It's a bug don't complain game is in alpha ohh wait did i say game i meant mod. Chill the hell out and give your character some exercise why not see if anybody hoarded vehicles over there? Camps or stuff like people always do.. i actually found an atv when i spawned in debug land

Can confirm we got vehicles on DE1608 now. If they would only save inventory and position / repair status then i would be a happy puppy. Oh, and they do it transformer style after each reboot. Van transformed into an Pickup.

I have 2 survivors, this guy the 32 day one, has seen his fair share of hacks, Like I lost my M107 to a hacker taking everyone's backpacks, I was spanned in the air (ALT F4 FIXES IT), 3 vehicles lost, and then my group and camp was wiped by a nuke when I was not on, so I basically had a M4 with some ammo, and then when I did get killed we lost 4 vehicles, totalling it to 7 vehicles lost, friends all died, I died, tents gone, 2nd time I lost a camp in that life from a nuke and 7 vehicles (One was a huey) and then other things that happen to me on the other survivor.

The problem isn't with our server, it's all 1.7.2.5 servers I believe. Tents and vehicles (specifically them saving to the hive after a restart) are bugged in this version, so we rolled back to prevent losing the consistency that these two elements bring.

When server admins rollsback a server i presume he has a limited time to do so.. Server rollbacks that you are experiencing is NOT a mechanic of the game, its a flaw (If a server admin is quick enough to do a reset of a server vehicles will be restored to their last save position etc) But not all servers have admins online at any given moment, if you read my suggestion you would know that i don't even want to see this power in the hands of admins, because YES then it would be used to rollback and cheat when loosing gear to other players.

I got lucky and if you don't know, when you get Telleported somewhere, if you alt f4 the syncing screws up, so yes in that 32 days I came across being teleported, vehicles stolen, friends killed (I was not on the server when the nuke dropped), and been over run by goats.

Hi all, UK 230 is a relatively new server without a truly established clan of hoarders, yet. Meaning that most vehicles are dotted around the map, saved by single players or small groups. Just this morning in fact, I found a quad parked in a shed near Komarovo as a newly spawned character. Whilst I cannot guarantee a hack-free experience, I can guarantee you that there will be NO admin abuse on our server. We have a grand total of four admins (my brother and two friends), which cover most of the day/evening, whom have been given a specific set of rules: - No hoarding vehicles - No duping - Absolutely no admin abuse, whatsoever. Yesterday, we made the collective decision to roll back to 1.7.2.4 as tents/vehicles weren't saving after the regular server restarts ( I understand everyone's having this problem since 1.7.2.5). This caused many of our regular players to vanish. As such, we've rolled back until the next patch, in which I assume we'll have a fix for that problem! So, without rambling on for too long, the details are as follows: Server : DayZ - UK230 (1.7.2.4 - ROLLBACK/95883) (Veteran|3D:ON|CH:ON) dayzmod.com - Forest Running Simulator 2012 IP : 94.242.227.90:2312 Email : [email protected] Server restarts twice daily, at 8am and 8pm GMT Come and join us! :)

Day Z without zombies would be a slower clunkier version of a console FPS with a shit load of unnecessary aspects. If PVP is the only aspect then there's no reason to get vehicles, no reason to get great gear, no reason to carry around anything more than cooked meat, coke, and medical supplies. Everyone would just pick up a weapon and mindlessly kill each other. It would get old....very fast.

Maybe someone has already suggested this. Searching for such complex concepts in such a huge sea of suggestions, however, is nearly impossible at this point so I'm just going to speak my mind. We need more tools and more motivation to pursue construction in this game. It may very well be the only thing that can rescue us from the cycle of violence that is being perpetuated so fiercely among the player base. Think of it - the only readily available abilities we have as players in the world of DayZ are destructive ones. 1: Tents must be overhauled. They should have some storage, but much less than they do now. (I also hold the same opinion for vehicles.) They should also act as mobile spawns, a-la minecraft beds. The caveat to this, however, would be that tents would be removable by any player who finds one. I also think spawning in a tent should cause some kind of delay, so as not to provide too much of an advantage. I imagine this could be easily handled; basically IF a player spawns in a tent, rather than on the coast, they would spawn in a state of shock that would detain them for, say, five minutes. This, combined with the significantly lowered storage space, and the ability of other players to remove them, should prevent them from being used as instruments in griefing. Tents should also have an option to "Save as my spawnpoint," so as to avoid any issues with owning multiple tents. This could not be done by a player unless they placed the tent. This is to make it a little more challenging to steal a tent than simply saving it as your own. Also, I predict there could be issues with more than one person saving it as a spawn, so it would probably be cleaner to preserve this option for the current owner of the tent. 2: More structures. Quite simply, we need more at our disposal. I'm thinking larger tents, camo netting, larger sandbag walls, ramps, ect. Naturally these would have to take up significant inventory space. Furthermore, some larger or more advantageous constructions (like fortifications) should require multiple components, and could ONLY be constructed through the concerted efforts of multiple players. For example: wooden beams, planks, tarps, metal siding, ect. would be individual items. So if you have a set of wooden beams, and another player has a tarp, you could build a large tent. However, you could ONLY do so if you both look at each other and choose a "Build Large Tent" option. Or perhaps one player could initiate a request and it would present the other player with a prompt that would say "Would you like to build a (Large Tent) with this player?" Something along those lines. 3: Removal of large constructions. All constructs should be removable. (As they now are) However, any construct that requires more than one person to assemble should require the same number of persons to disassemble. Not only will this prevent nefarious individuals from griefing groups by removing their constructs single-handedly, but it will also allow for the items that produced the construction to be retrieved effectively. It would also encourage teamwork on both sides of the process. In this fashion, people would have the choice to group together for the purposes of construction, or destruction. The choice is still theirs, but cooperation in these ventures would not be optional. As you can see the main goal of adding these tools is to gently encourage more positive player interaction. I fancy this solution quite elegant in that it preserves player freedom, while also giving players the option to work together, rather than to just battle royale. Naturally if you want to play as a rogue, you can. All the things that function in the game for individuals should still work for individuals. All styles of play have their own benefits and their own shortcomings, but at this stage, playing cooperatively is simply not accessible enough. I'm sure I'll think of more to add to this but it's late and I'm very tired. Anyway, discuss.

Good evening fellow admins, players. I would like to ask a question to the community about what are the pro's and con's of being a server admin. About a 2 weeks ago I had purchased the right to host a dayz server from a rental company (clanforge) to which I am currently paying nearly $100 USD to host per month. Honestly what are the pro's of dishing out money to the companies if the only power I wield to fend of the hackers is to just simply "restart" my server!? I cannot kick/ban, audit my players logs to check for suspicious activity. I can't even ban a hacker who is turning people into animals, teleporting people and executing them for vehicles, and even flying around!!! sans helicopter around supposedly "my" server. I can list a trail a mile long about the cons, but I cannot even bring up a single pro to being a loyal admin of an official server of the dayz mod's who developed this fine game. I still and will refuse to host a private hive server and I wish to still support the dayz mods but humbly request that more work be done on the admin side of the mod itself.

Ask Me Anything, I wont get offended. I started because I lost a survivor I had for 32 days, I had my M4A1 CCO and a CZ (I know not amazing loadout) and then BOOM nuked server. I decided that since I know how to hack (I knew how to hack arma from before) I was gonna get my stuff back, we also lost 3 vehicles, I did not spawn those back. Since I have started hacking I have done it for fun, I play on a side chat server and help people in need, go to where other mean hackers are (God mode snipers) and kill them (TP to ocean normally works). I have never nuked a server, nor killed anybody actually while hacking, either than ones that deserve it (I.E. god mode snipers) Here comes the flames

Completely agree on this. Coming into this game as someone who just happen to have arma 2 and decided to try it out after hearing about it. The learning curve was ridiculous...even when I knew the basic controls from arma! What you said stands, the learning curve is ridiculously stupid off the coast. But as you get experienced, even just a month or so in as I am. You begin to see that curve take a nose dive, you can avoid it by limiting how many tents you use, not hoarding vehicles, and avoiding duping like the plague... But purposely gimping yourself against duping bandits, asshat hackers, and Shoot on Sight clans/groups/survivors/friends leads to you saying "Why the hell am I still playing fair when no one else is?". It's really sad that the community hoards 10+ vehicles to all corners of the map and uses them as inventories just to have them. And dupes because they can. The only way to beat em is join em...and you may ruin the game for yourself by doing it, such a crappy situation.

Hi guys, Found a bus, i've been hearing that vehicles glitch out upon server restart and you cannot save them, is this true/is there a way to save? Also i found 10 SVD mags in the bus. Free to anyone who needs em.

Had a very successful night meeting new people and running around through Stary lolz. Have to clean out my shorts when the three of us realized there was a fourth person running along side us trying to chat through direct chat. Holy crap talk about a very awkward moment. Any ways he tagged along with us on the way to Stary Sobor to meet up with a patient, but had two buddies that he was suppose to meet up with as well. As the four of us are running through the woods we hear a car honking, turns out its the fourth mans two buddies. One driving a car and the other on a motor cycle lolz. Nobody shoots at each other and we all head to Stary together. We were the only 6 people on that server and for the first time nobody died lolz. Anyways I link up with the patient after changing servers cuz things got really awkward in Stary with the vehicles driving around and all the flares thrown around and stuff. God I love this game, there's so much crazy stuff that can happen and the stories are endless. This medic is signing off for the night, gotta wake up for work in less that 3 hours. Thanks Day Z for another sleepless night ;)

Hi all. I must say that its just getting worse, more kids discover BE bypass and start to use scripts. I'm running IL 4 server and all was fine except path 1.2.7.5 not saving vehicles and etc .. (Already have open ticket and i suppose you know this issue), but yesterday we had like 25 people online and some kids (not just one) started to give away rare stuff to all players, broke legs, teleport all players and transform players into animals, and kill all. At least one of them made a mistake and got banned, but his friends still were able to use scripts and was trying to save his ass by making more script attacks on server. So i was forced to close the server, its now only available to community of players that i know playing clean. Waiting in patience for some anti-cheat, or at least some power to admins to discover script kiddies, for now i have to read logs and pray that some kid made a mistake and discovered himself. The power of admins should be more then just server restart and log reading, we need more tools to protect the dayz game-play and discover+ban kids that trying to cheat. I understand that some admins will use it for their needs or illegal use, but its easiest to discover 1 server with bad admin then searching for 1-2 kids on minimum 40 players server. Regards.

I can see why people wreck others camps. Its not that they are being dicks all the time.. I consider it.. denying the enemy. we have chosen to abandon vehicles before.. so, do we leave it on the road? fueled up and ready? hell no, take out the wheels, and put some rounds through the engine etc.. its a survival game.. you dont just get handed stuff, having a camp is a risky business. its not so you can create an untouchable stockpile. so whenever you die, you can refill as if nothing happened. denying the enemy of his stockpile is perfectly legit gameplay. (on your own server) but being a server hopping D bag.. well, thats just stupid.