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As someone that is not a server admin, but who plays the game and checks the forums regularly, the enforcement of both the server rules and anti-hacking seem backward far too often. I see servers that are locked with the same 2-10 players (clan-mates or friends) being the only ones allowed in. I see servers that are locked for hours while the admin's clan goes around re-equipping themselves after their "base" gets raided and their vehicles stolen. I have seen people kicked and banned for raiding said bases, stealing vehicles, or even shooting the admin. These seem to be ok, as they do so on a continuing basis. On the flip-side, I have seen server admins attacked and disciplined for temp-banning unknowns (to give them time to check the logs to find the hacker for a permanent ban) after server-wide hacks/nukes make the server unplayable. Players and admins are both told that they have to provide proof that something wrong has occurred, but whether it is or isn't often doesn't seem to matter. Enforcement on either side appears to be more random than a loot spawn.

Hey Me and a group of friends I also met on the Dayz Forums have become really close but are still looking for New Members. We like you said are not looking for vehicles amazing loots or things like that but are more focused on enjoying the game. If interested join our TeamSpeak (94.168.198.149:9987) or check out our forums ( dayznoobs.forumotion.co.uk ) And BTW i live in the Uk too :D

One thing regarding spawning vehicles that interests me, when a scripter spawns a vehicle does it actually spawn a brand new one from thin air or does it take one that's already on the server somewhere? Or can both be done? I only ask because quite a few times my group has had vehicles stolen, we've always put it down to people finding our camp and moving them. Only recently the last two times we've had a Ural stolen each time it was way out in the middle of nowhere, well hidden and with no wheels. We found it again sitting in a field completely fixed with the other Ural plus every other vehicle in the game bar the buses and chopper. We steal it back with the other Ural, hide them both in a different place with no wheels again. Log in a few hours later and they are gone again :( the person that logged in to check on them gets teleported to a location where all the vehicles are then killed. So I would like to know, can scripters teleport your vehicle as well as spawning vehicles?

Kleaklejok.. what server do you play on? I'd love to mess up your day by coming to your camp. I do hate players who farm vehicles without using them. Or are you picking the car for what day it is? Tell me what server mate

said it before in another thread a week ago: Fuel would make a decent "currency". Rocket said in an interview he´d like the standalone to feature more vehicles but with chernarus being low on fuel. So with driveable vehicles a luxury (faster travel, safer travel, quicker to loot spawns, simply more convenient), fuel would make sense being some sort of currency. But the standalone certainly won´t impose that on the players. It´s up to everyone of us how to handle trades.

Maximus, don't take credit for what you didn't do, unless of course you are confessing to the use of hacks against us? You seem to have missed the other important parts, like the current state of the tents/vehicles and our members school commitments. Our operations are far from destroyed, in fact they are expanding with the launch our mercenary division and working with The Coalition. You've done nothing.

Freeside Trading Co will be suspending our weekly trade events until further notice. We've come across a few issues that make it very expensive to do these ops:Hackers: I don't like to play the blame game, but the hackers suck ass. We've gone about 3 months every weekend regardless, but recently it's gotten really bad. The hackers really kill our morale more than anything, and these weekly trade events make us a rather large target. Tents and Vehicles: Since they don't save, there's no way for us to turn a profit. Every time we get a batch of items, we've got no place to store them. School: Many of our members are in college, and a new semester is starting. As such, we're somewhat short-staffed. This is a much more temporary problem; once the semester gets started and we get settled in, we should have more of our veteran manpower for ops. Now, this isn't to say we are closing shop. Far from it, in fact. We'll be devoting more of our time to working within the Coalition, and we're taking some time to make some internal adjustments. Freeside is still facilitating requested trades, and we're still a great place to find and sell gear. We're also starting up our mercenary division, so we'll be able to start filling contracts soon!It is still possible we will run occasional weekend trade events, but there will be no guarantee as to when that might be. Check the forums, we'll post here if we decide to do an event either the Wednesday or Thursday before the op. Times will be the same, but we may be trying out new locations. Once tents correctly save and the hackers have been more squashed out by the beta patches, we'll be back to our weekly schedule. Again, this does not mean Freeside is dead - we're just halting our weekend trade events.

and no..helis return to respawn points lately after server resets. We saved our heli on hotel roof and it was back at respawn point after the next restart. The heli is not working when people save it as other vehicles do

Removing NVGs would be stupid, like 'Regicide' said, playing in the night will become impossible. The batteries on the other hand are a great idea, i have been thinking of that aswell. Just like vehicles need fuel, every electric component in the game should also need batteries. You could even go as far as needing batteries for thermal sights/laser sights, and ofcourse flash lights (attached to weapons)

The ZH clan has had hacked in weapons every time we join in, a few hacked in vehicles on occasion, clan members that exploit and ghost, they have no pbo grass/tress files allowed on the server and use it most of the time, there have been quite a few incidents in which someone in a ZH clan tag have hacked, they've kicked an entire server for no other reason then losing a helicopter, the list goes on. They exploit, they hack, they let it happen in their clan. - CSA Decise

Ive been playing a couple of months now. Ive found just about every weapon and item and been to all corners of the map, pinched and found vehicles, never got a chopper (but im crap at flying anyway). And im still playing although its dwindling fast. The reasons? Getting killed is definatly a part of it, im sick of the PvP element whose only recourse is to kill another player, admittedly im more of a PvE player and i will only fight when challenged i let people pass by without killing them. But it clearly seems society doesn't think this way, to them its better to have an As50 and hide in the woods ( i struggle to see what you get out of this kind of gameplay, when do you actually experience the game hiding and sniping on a hill with duped ammo and guns) On a fresh start, I had a bloke on DC once say nothing in that building as i entered so i went elswhere then he snuck up behind me and started to axe me ?? wtf.. Don't get me wrong i don't mind getting killed if we have started an assault on an airfield or prison and we die in a battle that's fine because the death was worth the gain we receive if we survive as a team, but to have a team slaughtered by an unknown assailant in a ghillie and sniper gun in the middle of nowhere? But i guess that's better than running in cherno asking to get shot. The graphics failures and weak zombies and many of the other seemingly unfixable faults are definatly killing it as well. Hackers and the usual are another part of problem Ive faithfully reported all the faults and bugs i found on the dev section not that it seems anyone has ever read them. Ive played both Chernarus and Lingor Island and liked both. I really hope the devs listen to all the comments and read all the posts when they build the retail version as im not really sure they do. Yes of course they have the path that they are laying out that we cannot see but hopefully they realise they need the community as well. (of late it doesn't seem that way) There are many ways to play the game but worryingly it seems we are going to end up with nothing but PvP in the end even though it was a promising start. Hopefully the powers that be will re-balance the gameplay somehow. Jaded..... but i have enjoyed a lot of it ps im sure there will be some abuse as is common on these forums but im just posting my thoughts whether you agree or not

I encounter the same problem on our server, the vehicles return to their spawn every day, and when this is not the case they are replaced by other, mostly by bike (today is UAZ and VS3 one we just lost) and every day the server crashes and must be restarted! ! We tried to get the serv. in 1.7.2.4 but now no more vehicles is avaialble on the map! we do not know what to do, and if not Dayzmod.com we will eventually just stop playing! because tired to start each day! ! ! The game is tempered by these problems ! ! !

So your suggesting a cover up or a file and forget approach no this is not the solution. This is a problem that happens in almost every game that is online. I have encountered a few hackers not a whole lot maybe been killed 4 times in my total time of playing and I play often. The problem isn't as bad as I see everyone here complaining about maybe you have been unlucky or like to stick to high pop servers but I have only been thunder domed once met one invisible hacker yes I have seen quite a few hackers creating weapons and vehicles but have not been killed by them. I think it would harm the game more if you joined the game got killed by hackers and when you posted in the forums about it you just got locked and ignored. That's would exclude and anger players more what the mods are doing right now is perfect taking proof acting on it locking whine threads and in the background the devs are working on solutions not to mention battleye working to ban as many as they can. While your thinking in the right way save the mod and the standalone your approach in my opinion is wrong.

they're not used on tanks. the bullet can't exactly penetrate a tank's armor, they're used on lightly armored vehicles and equipment. they are effective ways of stopping vehicles in dayz, rather than just emptying magazines at them

the admins of server 1555, namefully Bedyr, banned me and all 5 of my clan members for 'server hopping' after we dsicovered their camp, and looted everything in it. if you need any more evidence look up 1555 mega camp location on the forums. in that threat they admit to wrongfully banning us, and claim to lift the bans. That obviously didnt happen. this is also kind of an admin abuse thread, because after we found and took their vehicles, they reset the server multiple times and took the server down.

I was banned yesterday on RU 17, later I found out that I am actually banned on many more RU servers including RU 13. RU 16, RU 11, RU 20, RU 7, RU 18, maybe there are more. What happened: I spawned freshly near Kamenka and went straight for the north, along the way I found a tent from which I took few items (pretty much everything one could need but no "hacked in" items). I continued going on my way up north and eventually my character started to feel thirsty so I stopped and used a soda can (Cola). I am not sure if what happened next was somehow related to that cola can, probably it was just a coincidence. The moment my character drank it he was transported to some location where there were no ground, just the sky and a message box popped up telling me that I was kicked because of "BattlEye: CreateVehicle Restriction #3". At this point I immediately took a screenshot, here is it: It is in Russian but I am sure that it is pretty clear what is displayed there. The text in the message box says "You were kicked" and the white message below says "You consumed a soda can (Cola)". After this incident I logged back in and went along my way. About five minutes passed and another message box popped up stating that I was banned (BattlEye: Admin Ban). No explanation of any sort was given. After this I could no longer log in to RU 17 and multiple other RU servers, getting this Admin Ban message every time I tried. At this point I created this thread in Russian section of this forum, later it was locked and a moderator advised me to post in this thread which I did explaining the situation pretty much as I did here, but no reaction of any sort has followed. I have never used any cheats or hacks in this game (nor in any other game that I can remember of) and I certainly was not trying to create any vehicles, I just followed my path north, I have traveled hundreds of kilometers on foot in this game and surely don't mind walking mere 5-8 kilometers more, so even if I thought that it was ok to cheat (which I didn't), there were really no point for me to create any vehicles. As I see it now I was banned for nothing just because an admin felt like banning someone and they didn't give any explanation of why they banned me. Sorry for the long post, I am just trying to describe what happened, just in case there could be some important details that could prove my innocence.

If they really want to make this game for everyone, and get more players to play I really think in the stand alone version they should let the server have more control over customization. Now servers could stick to the regular, as the players would obviously let them know what they want or think is best. Changing the percentages of items that spawn, and maybe even where such as vehicles, weapons, gear, ect. This could determine how far along the break out is, with having more or less stuff. (Also change game play.) Maybe have a max percentage of how many of something can spawn as to not make servers ridiculous. Any ways, this would take a lot more elaborating on, but it may appeal to a percentage of players that want something different. (And no it's not 0%!) :P

If you use a "remote" location your tent and or vehicles will likely get robbed as the remote locations are obvious/well known. Longest lasting untouched tent I had was under a bridge outside a town.

Lets say I want to make some base of operation on some server, have a tent and 2 vehicles, how stable can it be server side, will i just log in and loose every gun i keep in tent? will vehicles despawn?

NE corner of the map camps and vehicles abound on many servers found a Bus and a Boat up that end last night

Up North first 2~3 large squares , from East To West, odds are you can have all the vehicles in one camp by the end of the day.

I'm sure this thread has been done a million times over but I'm new to the forums. I've been playing DayZ for about 2 months now. I do love the game even though it has many annoyances. Here is my funniest DayZ moment: I was running to Stary Sobor and I happened to find a random motorbike in the middle of the woods a kilometer from Elektro. I rode it all the way to the NW Airfield before I started to run out of gas, so I headed back towards some other town. I couldn't find a jerrycan for the life of me (Go figure when you need one you can't find one, and when you don't need one it's all you ever find). I ended up finding a red CAR sitting in this middle of some town. I was so surprised. It was the first time I found vehicles since I started playing the mod. I head back to NW Airfield. I get out of the car to loot the tower and I hear gunshots in the distance. I immediately run back into my car and drive towards the gunshots. I see a lone survivor running from 3 zombies right down the middle of the runway. I chase him down in my little red car and run him over. He didn't die but he passed out and I watched as the 3 zombies killed him. I got out and killed the zombies and looted him. He only had a revolver with no bullets left, scrap metal, and some bandages. I sometimes feel badly about it mainly because he had no items and I suspect he may have been a noob. Either way I laughed for like 30 minutes straight. Anyway share your stories!

You didn't buy the DayZ alpha, you bought a fully functional game, to play a slightly functional mod. That's different from buying the standalone in Alpha, which will get proper support, as the reason the standalone exists, is because the mod simply can't progress in it's current state, being very limited in what it can accomplish, such as stamping out hacks, properly implementing weapons and vehicles, etc...

Vehicles and tents all work fine at Lingor :) No graphical glitches either

I was looking through the logs and found this in: cfgdayz\BattlEye\remoteexec.log # 25.08.2012 20:24:38: [AWOL] Mikespartian114 (98.77.137.135:52713) 7b6d6e0f04cde4eed13fa275d4ede378 - #0 "[this] spawn BIS_Effects_AirDestruction" 25.08.2012 20:24:38: [AWOL] Mikespartian114 (98.77.137.135:52713) 7b6d6e0f04cde4eed13fa275d4ede378 - #0 "[this, 3.39314, 22831.1]spawn BIS_Effects_AirDestructionStage2" 25.08.2012 20:24:39: [AWOL] Mikespartian114 (98.77.137.135:52713) 7b6d6e0f04cde4eed13fa275d4ede378 - #0 "[this, 3.39314, 22831.1,false,true]spawn BIS_Effects_Burn" Can i ban him for this or is it just for spawning weps and vehicles?