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We have not had any issues saving vehicles on my server aside from the random one changing to something else. The heli however will not save no matter what we do. it always ends up back at the island all banged up.

There is quality control on the updates... US. Do you not know what alpha testing is? Lol. Don't use tents or vehicles until they're fixed. How does that sound? To be honest, this game could do with less whiny kids. There will still be plenty of players (and probably a better community...) in a month. Just my two cents...

There is a fix for over 3 weeks out there allready (at least for the vehicles). What takes so long to make it official?

Please fix the bug with the vehicles! Everytime we restart our server the verhicles transform into bikes or tractors. (1.7.2.5) We tried our server with the 1.7.2.4 patch and the vehicles where saved properly. (with guns etc.)

Oh goodie! I get to do this one in reverse! I do read them. How else would I reply? 4. But you keep on coming back? 3. And how is that? You're the one who can't seem to comprehend that you brought up something about me that you apparently know without having met or spoken to me before this thread. 2. How so? Did I not propose point to everything? Hence the bullet format? What else would you like me to do? Hide them well enough and numbers do not matter. 1. I have no idea, yet you forget the topics your brought up? "And the last one" - you just copied your quote that I replied to already. You totally ignored my point on WHY they may do it, thus making anything you say irrelevant. Proposed a solution....you make it sound as if they were getting stolen, they were not. They were blowing up due to damage on this crap game engine. (This reverse answering is quite enjoyable) 3. I even said "If you're not, then good on you" - apparently you can not read. 2. According to his original post, he would have just ended up with even fewer than he has now due to the damage from driving them. Of course if you HAVE more you risk losing more. Basic gambling. The good thing? If you have more it is OK to lose more because there is...well...more you have left. 1. He lost them because of damage FFS. Did you even READ the OP? Or is the title all you glanced at before you decided you were king of the thread? (Oh this is so much fun!) Wait wait wait....you say that I am incapable of debate but you sit here and call me a "shit head"? Are you serious? Honestly, do you not see the blatant hypocrisy in what you're doing? You have proven that you are indeed a hypocrite here fighting out of pride and anger rather than thought. It nullifies anything you type after this, however; I will reply for the enjoyment I'm getting out of seeing you try to climb out of this massive pit you've dug for yourself. I didn't make it up. I minored in Psychology. Seeing through your words is simple. Want to know how it's proven? Your tone. Your entire tone changed after I pointed that out. Why? Because it hit a nerve. It hit that nerve and tickled that thought I mentioned. I brought it up and you immediately begin with the swears and name calling. I made one gesture about you being unarmed in this battle and you go ballistic. So, please - do continue to prove me correct. Oh and you have taken a course? Seeing through your text is rather easy. I bet as a person you are even easier to see through. Where did you take your classes? Mine was Georgia Southern University. I attended 2008 to 2011, deployed and have picked up at another school closer to home. Easier to hide? Four or ten? They are all equally easy, just one is more time consuming. There is nothing different between hiding one jeep or hiding a thousand. They all hide the same way. It just takes longer to hide them. It's like asking what weighs more: A ton of feathers or a ton of bricks. I can hide ten jeeps just as easily as I can hide one, it will just take more time to make sure they are all concealed. I mean, we are talking about jeeps that are the same length, width, height and color right? That would mean that since they are no different that they are no more difficult to hide. (Oh this is fun. I get to toy with you by braking it down so simple that it merely pisses you off because you're thinking of hiding them in one solid bunch instead of spacing them out in trees.) One can not prove jealousy over the internet via text. You are asking the impossible. That shows your ignorance. Well, we could also mention that most of the people who display envy on these forums also do so by telling others to NOT do what the original person (let's say you) wants to achieve. Say little Jimmy wants a camp, someone mentions setting one up; Jimmy will tell him not to do it. It's human nature. (This is a blast, I can't wait to see what other ways you use to try and push this off on me! :D ) So, judging by the normal actions of users on this forum, I have the ability to place you in that profile. Again - I'm the one calling names, but I see NOWHERE (please quote it) that I once called you a name like "Moron" and "Shit head" - BOTH of which YOU used. I made a remark about you being unarmed in a battle of wits (This seems awfully familiar, but it would seem as if the only way for you to understand something is....repetition repetition repetition repetition), which you apparently took soooo much offense to that you sunk to name calling (a sign of an inner loss for true return fire in a debate. I'm actually waiting for you to call me a faggot and prove you're on the same level as your average internet user.) Less vehicles makes losses easier....Tell that to the Confederacy when it came to losing troops when they had less than the Union. When your numbers (of anything) are lower, each loss is that much worse. Would they have lost an overall number less? Yes. Would it have been a larger hurt? Yes. Why can't you understand that? (This reverse thing isn't quite as fun anymore. Too much scrolling.) Irrelevant? But sir, did you not say that I would disagree with EVERYONE who differed in opinion? Did you not bring that up? That makes it relevant. YOU bringing up my ability to see the other side of an argument was what is irrelevant. I'm just bringing up what you posted, replying to it and then you are simply trying to ignore what you brought up. You are blind to your own mistakes which leads me to believe you will probably never rise to the top of something worth mentioning. Is this a low blow? No, merely an observation based on your ability to reply, ignore what you said and then accuse me of irrelevant items when it was you who brought them up in the first place. "You must have forgotten the issue at hand: the OP has lost his vehicles. He whined about it." *sigh* He did not whine. He mentioned how easy they are to destroy and even said Thank You at the end of his post. That is not a whine. THIS is a whine: MOTHER FUCKING VEHICLES ARE TOO FUCKING EASY TO BLOW UP! THIS SHIT IS FUCKING STUPID! THEY SHOULDN'T BREAK SO EASILY! THIS IS BULLSHIT! Unless you attach the words in metal form and on the end of a drill, you can't literally drill them into my head can you? (It's apparent you are unable to admit you are wrong, so sarcasm must take place in order for me [and any others who may read this] to keep my sanity.) And it was a reiteration. SMH. --- Oh this was rather enjoyable. I do hope you'll respond again (I'd bet my house on it), and this time, could you ignore the fact that you brought up my inability to handle people who had a different opinion than me? Oh! Oh! Let me quote it so it's even more amusing when you ignore it. :D

ehicle will save after a server restart but prior to 1.7.1.5 we had 10 vehicles fixed up at our camp and after the last BE and arma patch, they all returned to their spawn locations broke again.

actually you're wrong...RARELY a vehicle will save after a server restart but prior to 1.7.1.5 we had 10 vehicles fixed up at our camp and after the last BE and arma patch, they all returned to their spawn locations broke again...we spent 4-5 resets fixing them again and every time they returned, including the huey, and every reset i have sat next to a vehicle and i have to fix it no matter how many times i save it...read other threads no vehicles save on 1.7.1.5 homie

September 6th? Fuck, that's my first day of classes... Oh well, as long as tents/vehicles are fixed idc what else you add or fix, or even "fix". It's fun running around and collecting stuff/finding that awesome m107 and a heli crash but after a while it just sucks running around with no home base or anything cause it'll just all get wiped out afer a restart. Can't wait.

Worng! All Vehicles DO save as of 1.7.2.5. Only the Huey isn't working!

Vehicles do not save on 1.7.2.5 thats why my server runs 1.7.2.4.

So the item spawned is one way you can see? Is there a list of which items are and are not present in DayZ? I've seen people talk about looking at missions and such, But not coming from an Arma background I'm not too positive of what is meant by it. Also look at your submissions i'm seeing alot of things that I'm also seeing in my logs. The createvehicle ones i'm interested in, I've people spawning in vehicles (I'm assuming) resulting in logs looking like code's you have submitted. Am i to assume they are scripting the vehicles when this code is present? It's not code popping up when they are entering or leaving a vehicle? I guess i also need to understand what is being logged (As in whats the setting to trigger the log actualy mean) Thank you for the links, I'll spend a hefty amount of time now going through my logs. And even over some of your submissions to see if i can understand it a bit more. Ty for the help Sir.

The thread below this one is about adding more vehicles (the chinook being one of them) and was started about an hour before you wrote this... I know using the search bar is just far too much to ask of some people but really... Open your eyes.

I suggest that you read my entire post before you start a reply; it should help you figure out how to debate. Also, I suggest that you stop using ad hominems; if you keep using logical fallacies then I'll point them out every time you use one. If you had read my entire post you'd notice that I already responded to this. You must have forgotten the issue at hand: the OP has lost his vehicles. He whined about it. I offered a solution. I never said a damn thing about what was fun or not. I proposed a solution to his problem: don't hoard vehicles so you take less of a loss when something unpredictable happens. I've said this once, twice, three times, and now I've lost count. There's no way I can drill this into your thick skull, is there? I don't know where this came from, but I can assure you that it's irrelevant. And then I mentioned that having less vehicles would make losses easier and that you stating this only reinforces my point that vehicles attract theft, and that less vehicles results in less theft, and that less theft results in less moving, and that less moving results in less accidents. I have the feeling that you're going to ignore this, though. Oh Allah...you're quite a piece of work, aren't you? I highly recommend that you go back and read your initial point that I was jealous, and that you (still) haven't proven it. All you've done is regurgitate arguments that you've used already and claim victory when it's obvious that the claim that your entire argument is centered around is false. The OP complained about losing a bunch of cars. I gave him a solution. You have not shown that my solution does not work. Sorry, but I don't understand how you not proving me wrong is a defeat. My only fault is responding to morons such as yourself. You didn't answer my question. Stop avoiding it: what is harder to hide, four jeeps or ten? I'll answer it for you (in fact, I did this already): four. Four vehicles is easier to hide than ten. If his vehicles were stolen, then it was because they were hidden improperly. This goes back to the point that it's much easier to hide something when you have less of it, and therefore the solution is to not hoard vehicles. My point, once again, is proven by another piece of evidence. It's not looking too good for your argument. Yep, it's confirmed: you've never taken a course in psychology. It's clear that I've proven my point and that you've failed to prove yours. The only reason you posted in the first place is because you're a shit head to thinks arguing when there's nothing to argue about is a good thing. See? I can make up stuff about what you call "psychology" as well. I would like for you to debate the subject at hand. All you've done is insult and belittle me, but you haven't actually responded to my points that the OP's problem could be resolved by simply having less vehicles. Here's my point, in case you missed it: 1. The OP took a huge loss in losing his vehicles (otherwise he wouldn't have posted here) because he hoarded them 2. If the OP wasn't hoarding any vehicles then he wouldn't have lost so much 3. Your assumption that I am jealous of the OP is wrong There is my stance. Here is the evidence to back it up: I told him to not hoard vehicles because it causes more problems that it solves (i.e. you spend days getting parts then the vehicles get stolen, invisible barriers eat your tires, etc.) and all that effort is wasted. My solution was simple: only have as many vehicles as needed. Four vehicles is easier to hide than ten. If his vehicles were stolen, then it was because they were hidden improperly. This goes back to the point that it's much easier to hide something when you have less of it, and therefore the solution is to not hoard vehicles. I proposed a solution to his problem of losing vehicles: don't hoard vehicles so you take less of a loss when something unpredictable happens. And...the last one. The fact that most people complain about vehicles shouldn't concern you, especially when I clearly stated that the problem was having too many vehicles and that the solution was to have less of them. It was not a safe bet to assume that I was jealous because I was subtley saying that lots of vehicles cause lots of problem shouting to the world that more vehicles attract more issues. If you don't refute my points and my evidence then the following is clear: 1. You have no idea how to debate (hint: insults and refusing to acknowledge points isn't how you debate.) 2. You are unable to refute my points and evidence 3. You are wrong 4. I have no further reason to listen to you I suggest that you read my entire post before you reply. If you don't refute my points and evidence then it will be clear to an objective third party that you've been soundly shut down.

Apparently there's a bug that causes vehicles that were fixed up in 1.7.2.5 not to save. I believe vehicles fixed up before this update will still save.

*sigh* here we go. DayZ nerd talk. Let's begin the list. I'll go bullet format to simplify this. *I mentioned towards the end of my last post that it's a pretty safe bet by your comment that you're jealous of his fleet. If you're not, then good on you. *Effort is wasted: It's wasted every time you get killed or thunder domed. You still play right? What's not fun for you may be fun for him. *I told you that you were wrong in your assumption of my attitude. To have never met me, you know something about me other than my screen name? *I mentioned his camp may have been compromised which is why they may have moved them, or they just like the simplicity. I've seen some pretty kick ass "garages" where they used sand bags as parking spaces. It's like building your own vehicle fort. It also helps if you take a vehicle down to a major city and it gets destroyed, you can just pick another, OR you could even host your own demolition derby (done it). *I brought up the history because you said - proving that I do in fact like to hold conversations with people who see things in a different light than myself and with that, proved you incorrect (or wrong if you will).*"Bring up something that doesn't matter" - you brought up me not agreeing with anyone who has a different opinion, therefore; YOU brought it up. At this point, I would recommend you read back what YOU said, and then what I said....or just quit while you're...well while you're not entirely left behind, though I do believe you will continue to argue for the sake of pride. A person who can not admit their own fault because of pride is a fool. * Hide the vehicles well enough and it doesn't matter how many you have. You're casting doubt on his groups ability to hide them without any knowledge of HOW they hide them. I didn't pass judgement on them because I do not know them or how they operate.Just because you can not seem to conceal a vehicle does not mean you can come to the conclusion it is impossible to make it nearly invisible.* You're responding because you have a small thought in the back of your mind that you may be wrong and are looking for me to confirm you are correct. That will not happen here. Sorry to break it to you so harshly.* I do believe it concerns me. Anything that goes on in this forum has the ability to be the concern of every player/tester/poster/developer/administrator/moderator as they see fit because it is mentioned in their community (the DayZ community) and as an avid user of this forum, I take everything mentioned on the forum and apply it. I do not know what you apply because forethought is obviously not on that list. * This statement alone shows your own doubt in your idea and ability to deal with what seems to be more than just your average internet Joe. Psychology 101. You're trying to show a false sense of victory from an unfinished battle that actually has the inner meaning of "For the love of God I hope this is the end. With this, I might be able to demean him into submission."*When you replied after me I was hoping for a battle of wits, BUT you've apparently come unarmed. Would you like me to stop here, or are you going to prove me correct that you let your pride run you and dictate your actions?

I'd like too see a bigger variety of vehicles without increasing the number of vehicles on the map. Saw a video where someone had a chinook, they must have been hacking, but it looked awesome and would be an epic addition to the game!

I feel like people in this community equate bandit skin to douchebag. Not enough people realize that the humanity system is wretchedly flawed. I personally never kill anyone out of ill will and yet have ~ -35000 humanity. Why? Because when I'm gathering supplies in a city and I see someone, I yell out friendly in direct comms. I can count the number of people on one hand who have responded. Even so, I yell out for people to just exit the building from a different exit and I won't hurt them. And yet, without fail, people continue to sprint towards me. What choice do I have at that point? Risk death and the loss of everything I've worked for? I don't think so. I shoot. The humanity system is an absolutely terrible indicator of a player's morality. I wear my bandit turban proudly, as it represents my ability to defend myself from potential harm. Yet players never trust me, even though I've given away plenty of vehicles, guns, and supplies. I think this community needs to change its perception.

Ever seen this ? It spawns vehicles and everything else fine but in four days of putting in some serious time we have not found 1 heli crash. Last night we looped from nw field down to Zeleno, up to the Stary-Novy area and surrounds. Thinking it was weird we also headed from Guglovo up to Dubrovka then across to Devils Castle and back down through the fields area to Stary. Worst case scenario we should have seen at least one chopper with the amount of area covered and three people looking. Any reason for this or is it a possible server setting ?

Cool fixed and running ty S.Servers BTW we are finding 2x starts DOES tend to save tents, and re-spawn vehicles

Weird huh. This server is loading in everything else though, tents are saving randomly, vehicles at spawn points and saving where we leave them. all loot spawns are working..just 0 helis. Thats why i wondering if it is server side option ?

Check it out, when you restart a server sometimes the objects don't load in, that means no vehicles, no tents, no heli crashes. You have to re-restart.

Looking forward to the patch. For the others it is essentially what you have been told your whole life, have some patience, good things come to those who wait, and calm the fuck down you are bugging the shit out of me. Understand things like time constraint and the fact that the answer you got could have been found out using basic common sense. This is how a normal person views a situation. Man this patch sucks but I understand they started working on the standalone while also being at multiple game conventions. Hopefully they patch it soon after it settles down. This how someone who lacks patience acts. Oh my God no patch in three weeks, what is wrong with the devs are they just cashing in and partying while we set up vehicles that will soon be gone. I mean three weeks, this is getting ridiculous and why have these busy people not made touch with the community (do you guys expect an update everyday where Rocket and devs say working hard but no date as of now, hope this helps guys). I will now rage on how Rocket is a sell out and the standalone will be just as broken. I will never play again or I will become a hacker and mess with your broken game, that will teach you to provide an innovative and popular mod to the gaming community (because we have so many). .

Because tents are bugged in 1.7.2.5 if you're not aware. Therefore there's no reason to hide them. Either the contents guaranteed dupes on server restart and no one can stop it/alter the contents to prevent duping (not even smashing the tent affects it), or the tent won't save anything and is useless anyway. EDIT: Same with vehicles. But also what Lumberjack said. It's surprisingly hard to put a tent in a location that isn't well traveled. If anyone even goes remotely near where a tent/car is, they're ridiculously easy to spot.

Let me try to explain something, ok? First off, what are the abilitys of a hacker? Kill everyone Spawn vehicles, weapons, etc..... teleport.... etc.... Killing everyone in a server with /kill, has to pretty boring. Am i right? (unless thats your thing!) I mean really, think about it. Spawning items in can only go so far. And usually a day or 2 after you script, you get banned. Now about the Dayz experience...... Are you serious! The only time you have a "Dayz Experience" is when you first start playing the game. It then, is ruined inturn by hackers and admins! When are you guys gonna learn that its not an experience anymore? It's PvP and the sooner you get that through your head the better...... Goodnight

Go back to english class. You're whole post is littered with mistakes. lol! Beside this isnt english class. And actually to be honest we use to do the whole medic thing for a while. Now we just use them for whatever. You act like we are vehicle hoarding! Ever stop to think theres about 20 other vehicles? Also August 1st was when I made a forum name. Whats your point? I came here looking for others to join our group. One more thing before I go, 2 months ago this game had less then 200,000 players. In July alone, it went from 500,000, to a MIL. With that being said, goodnight!