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[MORE FEATURES] vs. [LESS HACKERS AND BUGS] Hi guys, i write this post after eight weeks of excessive dayz-gaming but at this time a point is reached at which i just dont want to play this game any more. First I want to comment the good sides of dayz, as in this community you will immediately called "a hater" when you lose a bad word to dayz. By chance I discovered dayz eight weeks ago in an online article by a computer magazine. There was talk of a kind of zombie mod for the game Arma II. As I create mods for The Elder Scrolls-series by Bethesda Softworks, I'm not fundamentally opposed to modifications and took a look on it. Before purchasing Arma II: CO I informed myself intensely about the gameplay and what I got to see in numerous YouTube videos and online articles was simply terrific. It was exactly that kind of stuff zombie fans had always expected. A real zombie apocalypse which could not be more realistic. In addition to the basic needs of your character also the defense factor played a major role. In a world without many goods and running zombies everywhere, everyone is fighting for survival and this concept completely worked out. There has never been a game that made ​​me this kind of paranoid. This moment, this one little moment you stand in front of an unknown guy you and suddenly think "Should I shoot? Will he shoot?" And just before you shoot, he says: "I am friendly, do not shoot!" and you're just happy to find a guy you could do some action with in cherno or elektro. Me and my colleagues experienced many wonderful moments that we will never forget. We laughed a lot and the joy about this game, which have been created by rocket, was huge. Unfortunately most of my friends thinking the same way I do and that's why I wrote this post. Well, now the reason for my bad mood. You all know it, you spent hours of finding a car and some more to fix it. Once you have done it you just felt great of having a nice car which helps you to reach cities and towns more quickly. You built up a small camp and protected your car as if it were your own child. All would be nice....if there hadnt been a hacker who ported all the vehicles to himself. The first few times you think "What the fuck?" and continue playing. But at some point you see it all differently. There's not a damn day you do not meet at least one hacker. I mean, it is not normal when every third sniper on the rooftop in Cherno got a AS50-TWS with him, right? You can watch people hacking more and more. What initially began rarely manifests itself now even more in ammoboxes, hacked weapons or whole fleets of vehicles hacked by people. The sad part about the whole thing is that these are simple scripts, which deeply affect the game engine and i have never seen to another game. Furthermore, players are lured with useless features. What is the advantage of a bear trap or a fucking dog when the next aimbot-hacker gives me a headshot with his hacked M240 at one mile distance? When do you guys start developing features that the players really need? For example like a group function with some little advantages for groups. Why do the new updates contain more bugs than improvements? Arent they tested before releasing? Every time I put on a suit, i have to drop my backpack, because otherwise its just gone. In 20% of cases, however, it is already gone when it was dropped, why? After dying i have to connect twice. Otherwise my charakter changes between bandit and standard all the time and lose his backpack. When logging out with a broken leg you fall into a coma at any reconnection until the server is restarted. ATVs are unusable, flying several meters high on bridges and break all your bones. On docks you often break your legs, without any reason. Bear traps are active even though they have been picked up. Tents are duping themselves or beeing empty after a server restart although they have been saved. Magazines turn into other items. Items just disappear from the inventory. Zombies do not come on docks and player just fell through walls and floors. Players are flooding the whole world with cloned items, which totally destroys the joy of a found gun. This is one of the most elementary features, dayz is living from. Why dont you change that? I CAN and WILL not show the long list of bugs that have robbed me of the fun in the end. I hope that there are more people out there who think like me and help to open the developers eyes. This game is an alpha-version! Your job is to create a stable version before you create tons of new features!

I am unsure as to who you're accusing, but I am definitely interested so I can clear up any confusion related to that. The clan Zorin was referring to was [101] who was banned for having multiple members being incredibly obnoxious in side chat, I was getting multiple complaints from different groups daily and didn't do anything about it, but when I finally witnessed enough abuse and taunting from the members of that clan (aimed at other people, not myself) I decided to go ahead and make some bans. The funny thing is, I actually played with them and never had much of an issue with them myself when it came to the way they played the game, even though their primary objectives were to run over tents and drive vehicles into the ocean. But when I get complaints from half of the server about them being obnoxious over side chat and bragging about how hilarious it is to kill people and destroy things, while commenting on how 'mad' they must be, and then give plenty of warnings about it which are ignored, I have to take action. That group played with two of the admins, but regardless of who we play with we don't hand out favours because of it. The thing I do regret and apologise for is that I wasn't clear enough on why the clan was banned, since you seem to be misunderstood on why it happened. Hell, none of the admins even kept any vehicles stored anywhere, I barely even play the game, and the other admin (only had two at the time) was joining you in the fun. It's also worth noting that this happened two months ago when we were very new, and this is the one of the two admin abuse claims that have come up in that time period. 99% of the bans made are hack related, with a few of them being for excessive side chat abuse. I do not moderate gameplay whatsoever and people know that.

i wanna play with someone that knows how to fix vehicles and knows how to find tents and especially someone that knows how to pvp.... i prefer someone that has the time zone of eastern....i only use skype so message me if your interested

What do you mean vehicles auto repair now?

Every restart your fuel drains. Atleast vehicles auto-repair now. Both bad and good bugs in .6...

The problem with this is that the tools most people request (ability to reset/teleport vehicles) is effectively giving the server admin hacker abilities. You think it's bad now with server admins restarting servers after they're stolen? They'd reset/teleport vehicles all day long to hoard them with such a "tool". You'll just have to wait for Standalone for any sort of viable solution.

We were that clan, the clan I am in were regulars and well known on the server - we killed and stole vehicles from one of the admins, he then abused us in side chat with his friends and everytime we responded to defend ourselves he threatened to ban us. He kept on trying to provoke us, some responded and argued with him trying to defend themselves from accusations of being hackers etc (which the admins knew none of us were, confirmed by another admin after log check). They banned our whole clan and the admin went unpunished. We did argue back with the guy, but his actions and abuse across side chat was unnacceptable in the first place. The real lesson learned was don't kill a cherno camping sniper who has admin access.

Is there a report system at all for banning, or just up to detection with battle-eye&admins? This lame hacker Ferex just won't quit with the constant teleporting behind me to kill, or really lamely attempt to kill.. Truly a farce actually how sloppy he is, had to teleport a dozen times trying to trail me through electro after the 3rd or 4th kill.. The zombies had a better hit ratio.. Anyhow that and the flood of vehicles got a bit annoying, so just curious of what pro-active anti-hacker measures can be done, other than laughing off their waste of my time. Plus side the life was a recent respawn so not too much wasted.

So i spent maybe about a week on the server titled (as it is right now): DayZTakistan - 1.1 (Veteran|3D:on|CH:ON) Desync | Vilayer.com and have experienced numerous counts of admin abuse as well as possible scripting. Ranging from Teleporting, to Map hacking, to spawning in items into the game. i had a little chat with one of the admins named "pscyhobob" in reference to such events, and he directly admitted to multiple instances of admin abuse, so i will show you the screenshots and explain each one. Here the admin is basically admitting that he can look up and watch the world in real time, seeing player names, locations, as well as vehicles. as far as vilayer hives are concerned i dont know if this is acceptable or not, but what i do know is that they've been using this as a means to continuously find our camps over and over. as far as i was concerned the admins could only ban, reset the server, kick players, change the time of the server, and send out world messages. when i searched the vilayer hive admin commands it basically redirected me to battleye.com so i assume that the rules are the same, but he's claiming here, that he has the ability to overwatch the entire server at any given moment, in real time. not only that, but in a different conversation from the server admin HIMSELF, fully called himself out and admitted that he was using it basically to scout our location: 8:53 PM - Desync: I didn't know what u was doing, you'll be ok, you'll log back in at stary and can drive away, that is if the server don't fuckin roll back like it did last time with lingor now, how did he know where we logged out? oh, right... because they're using whatever means to find our location in real time. not to mention because they kept losing to us in firefights, decided to change the server to Utes (or whatever its called) without warning in attempt to catch me and my crew offguard....... this is psychobob, basically admitting he bans players without any rhyme or reason, other than they "appear" to do sketchy things. AKA steal their helicopter. we had met up with a guy that found their chopper and picked us up randomly (friendly guy i guess?) and for that one reason alone they concluded that he was "sketchy" and that was enough grounds to ban him on, further admitting they had no actual evidence of any kind of scripting or hacks in the works. in another conversation he states: 8:59 PM - name: so... did he hack his way up north? or what was wrong with him 9:00 PM - [-B^3-] Psychobob: I don't think the rpt showed anything either way 9:00 PM - [-B^3-] Psychobob: it's nerfed so bad that we get hardly any info from it 9:00 PM - name: so, basically, hes banned for finding the chopper? 9:01 PM - [-B^3-] Psychobob: banned because it's sketchy and we can't prove either way 9:02 PM - name: Its honestly, not making much sense man, .... he found it i dont understand it, u found our shit, it happens its a game so... basically if you play on their server and do something THEY deem to be sketchy, you will be banned. but in my personal experience that means something they simply dont LIKE.... but ironically if it's someone within their own crew... the rules aren't quite the same. what i'm talking about in this picture, is in another instance where i was in a field near NEAF. it was night time, raining, and i was prone in a pretty covered location, directly inside a bush... ghillied.. somehow, him and his buddies showed up in their chopper, started doing laps around me, and began firing the door gunner at me. now wait a second. you're going to ban a player for finding your chopper because its "sketchy..." but you're trying to tell me that you somehow managed to spot a ghillied prone player in a bush in the middle of the night while raining from a CHOPPER.... BUT because its in THEIR favor suddenly its not shady anymore. to me i'd say its more likely to find a chopper VS finding a guy so well hidden at night/raining from the sky, who isn't moving or shooting. and let me also point out that typically nobody hangs by NEAF on that server, most of our battles are 10 clicks west by NWAF. so what drove them to come all the way to the other side of the map, circle me and shoot at me..... hmmmmmm...... perhaps multiple levels of help, i would believe. most striking of all, i'm talking to psychobob in this screenshot about that earlier conversation where the admin of the server straight out told us where we were in the world. at first bob tried to play it off like it was at some later point, but in reality it was not even 5 minutes after the server went down. basically, let me break this down for you: we kill them at NWAF. we hop in vehicles (which one of the ones they were using was one of those hacked in black SUVs by the way... not sure how they got that) we drove to stary we're camping the north hill, suddenly the server goes down with no warning. magically, they switch to the small PvP map, Utes one of my friends ask him why they switched without warning, and was concerned about when the map switches back to chernarus if it'll be in the same state it was, due to the fact that in the past after switching from lingor, they lost all their gear upon going back to chernarus. in response to his concern about the rollback and losing gear, is that earlier quote which once again was: 8:53 PM - Desync: I didn't know what u was doing, you'll be ok, you'll log back in at stary and can drive away, that is if the server don't fuckin roll back like it did last time with lingor so basically this conversation is starting out with me pointing out that that conversation was a few minutes after the server switched to chernarus. he expresses he knows that it took that early, agreeing and acknowledging that desync was aware of our locations, and then ALSO turns around and admits that if we had the power to do the same thing to them, we would immediately be banned. the server has a strict no combat logging, as well as no logging to despawn zombies from the buildings youre in, ect. pretty understandable. in the middle of a firefight with the server owner and co-owner (psychobob and desync)... the OWNER OF THE SERVER... the guy that sets the rules for his own server decides to combat-log because he was obviously about to die. not only that, but some how knows to only log on when we've left the area. in this picture is the "excuse" that as to why it's somehow acceptable for the server admin to do it, but obviously if someone did it against them, it's a bannable offense. (the server spams it every 10 minutes in global.) i have many more screenshots but i believe that this is quite enough (to me) to show the extremely poor quality, un-justified, one-sided, hypocritical viewpoints and actions of the admins, EVEN DISCLUDING possible hacking activity, (which i'm convinced they're using as well.) so, although i dont have any in-game footage or video of any of these events, this conversation TO ME is sufficient enough to make a point. but the real question is, even if that evidence isn't enough to convince you, the DayZ community, would you still go on their server and play? actually..... go on their server and play. i want you to. because then you'll see that they always find your base. always find your vehicles. get to locations on the map much faster than they should on foot, and somehow always know where you and your friends are located. they will ban you for things they themselves do, and horde the vehicles. i honestly felt that this needed to be brought to the community's attention because its admins that play like this that ruin the game for everyone. if you have any questions, comments, concerns, please feel free to contact me via the forum, and i shall give you further contact information. thank you so much for spending the time to read this.

Well, i'm not sure how much damage a helicopter can take, but the m107 is kinda weak against vehicles. What you REALLY want is an AS50. For reference an M107 does about 30,000 damage per shot, while an AS50 (using NATO ammo) will do something insane like 120,000. So one AS50 shot is worth about 4 M107 shots.

At least you realize why some of us have switched style to keep the game fun. I spent over a month lone wolfing on low pop servers and trying not to kill people, had some fun but it got a little old after awhile. Switched to grouping up with friends and playing as a friendly group trying to help survivors (offering rides and low tier gear to fresh spawns). We avoided cherno though from experience but still lost far too many vehicles to players and had a few frustrating murders from those we helped, so we started bandit hunting but kept trying to help those who were not threatening. Once again was frustrated by dick moves we lowered our threshold for engaging in PVP and eventually became more hostile to the point of banditry (minus newb sniping though). The nothing to do argument isn't 100% true, it just turns out that the mechanics make it hard to trust anyone effectively giving you no real incentive to expend energy being friendly. Our group still plays friendly on Chernarus servers, but have gone full bandit (once again minus new spawn sniping) on lingor servers. TL;DR Many of us have turned into feral dogs, most started out normal but devolved into sociopaths (in game).

What's stopping players from using vehicles? Or what about the dynamic thrown in from meeting other players in your area? In such a scenario, wouldn't solitary survivors form groups as they traveled? From the impression I've gotten, the alpha is just about survival, whereas the standalone is supposed to have an ambition(totally dependent on the players) towards rebuilding societies of a sort. I understand your point about distance between non-local friends, but I think there's a solution to that already. Different servers can host different maps/regions. So as long you play on the same server you can play together... just like right now.

With the amount of duped shit in tents and vehicles and other players being fully geared, you can gear yourself fully up within a hour of your spawn by killing said dupers and taking their gear or by running into a camp, which is very easy to find these DayZ (see what I did here?) ... So no, I'd rather gear up alone, because another reason to do so is.. When approaching cities and buildings, there will only spawn a few zeds on my ass rather then twice or triple the amount for 3 or more players.

I also play in a group but it´s just me and one other, we have survived quite a while now but it´s getting boring and we sometimes just roll into a city with "Bad" gear and weapons like Ak-74´s and stuff and just go to town, usually ends up with us getting killed but we had fun and then we can start over again (even tough we have tents and vehicles filled with weapons and ammo and other useful supplies.) :)

You probably heard some info from the 1.7.2.5 version when vehicles were reset to their original spawn location / broken state EVERY time the server was restarted. If you are playing on 1.7.2.6 then that info is no longer correct. With the exception of tents / vehicles occasionally failing to spawn after server reboot (happens with all build #'s) vehicles are saving properly now . It's a big problem on the forums that people post all kinds of information but rarely bother to mention which version of the game they are talking about, which leads to confusion such as yours. This could be easily avoided if people would take an extra 3 seconds to mention which version they are currently bitching about...

I JUST FUCKING HAD THIS IDEA THIS WEEK AND FORMED A SYSTEM IN MY HEAD FUUUUUUUU~ yes I would love this. If anyone ever played hard truck apocalypse, they'd know what I would love to see in this game a bit more of, of course in the dayz playstyle, not in the Hard Truck Apocalypse style. Before bitches bitch, armored cars will take a lot of time to get to that level, they will be balanced from a time needed to reach that level point of view, and let's be honest, once you reach that point when you have all the gear you really want, there's nothing left to do but vehicles, and once you get enough of those you get bored and quit, you need this next step in evolution as a survivor, besides being able to erect structures to some degree, or reinforce others. I would also like to add the options that say in workshops that are in mountain areas to be able to find better suspension/tires suited for that terrain, near military establishments find bullet proof glass, etc PS. being able to lock doors so that unwanted ppl may not get in would be good/have to break a window/shoot a gun at the locker area to break the door's lock, etc, would be very good as well. PPS. BEEP BEEP.

It happens randomly on restart. I no longer play DayZ, but each day when I reboot my server I usually log into the game at one of my old tents just to make sure the tents / vehicles loaded. Sometimes it takes 1 or more reboots to get them to load into the game. If possible, you should get contact info for your server admin so you can inform him when tents / vehicles fail to load so he can do a restart.

you dont get access to the database with the server hosting companies in general. You want to know where the vehicles were saved at the .rpt file is your best bet. Its also a good place to look when you think ppl are logging INTO your server with hacked weapons/gear. Want to find ppl causing problems? Check .rpt file, createvehicle.log, and parse the script.log if you can get a good parser. Just look and see when the remoteexec.log file was last modified and look in it only when you notice its been modified. It rarely gets anything, but when it does... thats going to be hack most likely.

hey, but the hackers aren't the problem! Server admins on power trips.... now thats a problem :) bet you wished you had a much more beefy server rcon right about now. One that would despawn vehicles that went out of bounds like that. Perhaps one that would alert you to mass teleports? Got to be a way, but we admins cant be trusted for anything beyond forking over the $$.

Basically, a texture tears and projects in line segments, lighting your screen up like a disco ball with visual anomalies that can get so intense that you can't move while looking in a plane they project to. For weeks people couldn't go to the NWAF or to Stary. Weeks. Then a couple fixes hit the forum and it was manageable, but still pretty fucking terrible. But it did exactly like you said, returned vehicles to their spawn on restart.

What I would like to see in the mod is vehicles return to spawns after server restarts. That way the clans/groups who hoard the vehicles cant keep them too long.

YES! Finally ... searched a couple times for a post like this, but havent found it until now. 46 yr old here, gamer all my life ... not stopping, ever. Total team player ... give ya my last stick of morphine, and maybe my last stanag sd mag :P Been playing Dayz for almost 6 months, almost too regularly ... spent 2 weeks solo to get used to this awesome thing ( hadnt played Arma yet, so didnt know controls so well, etc ), then grouped up with some folks. Went well until we picked up a bunch of kids that thought hacking, and pvp was all this mod is about ... thats when things got st00pid. Until then, we had organized, team players, and worked our asses off to build very decent camps, with plenty of vehicles that we used all that time ( hording is useless ). But the kids, and the BS eventually drove everyone away. BAH! So, Im down for this thing ( great idea Sula!! ) ... and hopefully will "see" some of you out there. Location: east coast, us [GMT -5] TS3: poMONKey Steam: poMONKey Skype: poMONKey ( I think ... dont use skype much, so I forgot ) Feel free to PM me ...

I also had this problem. So I get a new ID. With the new ID, no vehicles where spawning in my server... until yesterday. The thing is that the helicopter is not spawning, so it's very likely that the heli is again in the sea. I think I'm going to use a hack to get it out of the sea, I hope I don't get banned for doing a "good thing".

One thing - damn thats tough. Assuming that the hacking situation is dealt with (or cut down 99%), then I agree with your first post. Zombie spawning. More emphasis on the zombies - rather than the afterthought that they are. I wish you could clear areas, or find ghost towns. The spawning and zombie behavior is understandably poor, but it is a mod after all and one that wasn't originally intended to feature zombies (to my knowledge). But then I could list a ton of misc things. Like more vehicles. And more ''random'' things. Think boss type zombies, bow/arrows, horseys, random ''ufo/bigfoot'' type easter eggs like I always wish gta had. Ability to write notes, use radios, safe zones for trade, better clan features - pretty much everything i've heard war-z or the standalone having. I'll go now cuz i'm going off on a tangent xD

God damn it, do something about that damn Hackers! My people and I changed our home server for the 5th time now. Its always the same. We find a good server. Play on it for a few hours, find cars, repair them and suddenly all the cars are gone... Last week I was driving a Quad and suddenly a Hacker teleported me and the Quad into a forrest, together with all other vehicles on the map. I'm playing DayZ for over 320 hours now, but it became really annoying the last few days. You see people with AS50-Thermo everywhere and Hackers spawn cars away... that sucks. Do something! Thx