DickSharpe

Did you not read the warnings telling you not to buy this game because it is not finished, is full of bugs and missing a lot of content? Whats worse is that you feel the need to blame the devs both current and new (who have not even started working on or have done very little work on the game yet) for the fact that you did not read the warnings. How many times did you burn your hand before you learned that the stove is hot? PS: I'll agree with OP on one point. As far as content and stuff to do go, the mod is more fun. However you don't play the SA for fun, you play to test, fun is often a side effect of this testing.

I think the Idea is to have minimal HUD or UI on screen. The less info shown on screen the better in my opinion.

They make you look tacticool :D

Not this guy again :rolleyes: Weren't you having the same moan in another thread? Why start another? And yes before you go on, I know how "Qualified" you are. Are you secretly Gummy52?

I get 2 weeks holiday at the end of the year plus I have added a another 2 weeks to that from leave that I built up during the year. That's paid holiday for 4 weeks.

lol I never said that my AR-15 was full auto. I have however fired a variety of fully automatic weapons when I was in the US. (place that you can hire guns and shoot them on the range) The comment about the full Auto was merely there to help my point about the usability and controllable nature of the M4 platform (which is basically the same as the AR-15 bar the full auto) Maybe think before you post buddy. That way you wont end up looking like a bit of a silly bugger :) I have edited the post strnglyr is referring to as obliviously it upset him that I did not make it clear that it was not kids firing full auto weapons or that I did not specifically sate that the full auto I was referring to was not my personal weapon but one that I had fired, thus forcing him to read into things and come to conclusions that are incorrect.

Edited for the benefit of strngplyr as he cleary tried to read between the lines and got it wrong: hope this clears thing up for you mate. I have put the edits red so that they can be seen easily. You obviously have little experience of real world firearms (not a dig at you because firearms are not every ones thing or easily obtainable to some people). However I have to say you are wrong on this. I have no formal military or law enforcement training and I can handle my AR-15 (same platform as M4 just the civilian version) very well. They are in fact incredibly simple to use, put it in the hands of any kid (under supervision of course) who has played COD, BF4, and they will know the basic operation of the weapon such as loading, cocking, safety switch. An untrained user may find full auto a shock at first as I did when I hired one on a range in the US but I got used it rather quickly, so I imagine with a bit of time an untrained user would learn to compensate for this. Maintenance is another issue and you would require some training or at least someone to show you how to do this. (hence why they should break relativity quick in SA) As for the recoil It is minimal compared the Mosin Nagant 1891/30 or Lee Enfield Mk4 or Park Hale .270 that I own and these are rifles that are commonly use as hunting rifles here in NZ by people as young as 16 (legal age to get a firearms licence in NZ). As for the AS50 etc. They are not needed in the game. A Mosin in the right hands with scope should be able out to shoot out at about 500m (not sure if in game mechanics allow this yet or will allow this) probably more which is far beyond the accurate or practical range of modern AR's (both in game and real life) which are optimized for use at about 300m as most infantry vs infantry engagements take place within this range anyway. At a range of 400-500m an AR is not an (accurate) threat if you have a Rifle. But the long and short of it is that Rocket does not want them and its his game, so drink a cup of concrete harden up and deal with it :) Lastly and as a side note: The M4 (originally produced in the USA, but now made under Licence all over the world and even copied by the likes of Chinese manufacturer Norinco) along with its many military and civilian variants is a widely used and widely exported AR platform, Used in some form by basically every NATO country and even some Ex-Comblock/Warsaw Pact countries. It is a weapon used by many special forces (even some Russian and Polish and Georgian units) around world due to it modular nature and the wide availability of the ammo, and as Chernarus (pre-outbreak) was a break away from the old Soviet State aided by the west (US Marine Intervention force Arma2) in its civil war against the pro- Russian Chedaki, It is not entirely unreasonable to find some M4's laying about.

I wouldn't bother with him Instameeg. Its kinda rich for him to have a go at your Avatar. When his is in reference to character from an early 1990's NZ film Called Once Were Warriors. In the film the character Uncle Bully is best known for raping his friends teenage daughter and causing her to commit suicide. Its a cult classic here in NZ, not sure if its that well known elsewhere, so I'd say he's prob a Kiwi (or one of those Aussies who pretend to be Kiwis and then give the rest of us bad rap :P). It's a powerful film though, worth a watch. Anyway I digress.... I'm also looking forward to seeing how things have progressed :)

Fair point mate :) Just pisses me off a tad when people rip on others for the way they play. I think you may be right about the no Humanity from zombies thing.

You felt the need to post this because: A. You are trolling B. You are a dick C. Because you are a super hardcore DayZ player who has never ever used side chat D. All of the above Anyway Icy that was a good little read. Reminds me of the time some friends and I took over Chernogorsk on one of the BHR clan servers, typed in side "anyone who comes to Chernogorsk armed or dressed as bandit is dead" naturally they came and a good many of them died :beans: ...then some BHR dudes wasted us. Was good times. :lol:

If you want a "survival experience", go do a bush craft course, get lost in the woods, drink your own pee to keep from dehydrating and kill an animal with a sharped stick. Who knows you might get a show on Discovery :P. Time for the seriousness. I, like many others on this forum play DayZ because it is social. Being a multi-player mod it would be impossible for it to not be social. Its a chance for me to unwind after a day at work, and have fun with friends located in the Uk, Sweden, Germany, Australia and NZ (Many of whom I only know via DayZ because I screamed friendly into direct chat and they did not shoot me). Its cool that you get so into the game and feel so strongly about it, but I really don't think it's at all helpful or mature to insult other players because they don't play the way YOU do, or the way YOU want them to. Relax, be clam and accept that you can't change they way others choose to play. Enjoy the fact that DayZ is an awesome mod that can make you piss yourself laughing one moment and shit your pants when a round flies over your head the next. :thumbsup:

Wow now you are going to pick on the fact I made a mistake and admitted to it? You really do get off on trying to belittle people and talk (or in this case type) down to them. You keep on stating that my posts don't make sense, they obviously make sense as you are able to read them pick on them and then post some completely unhelpful self-righteous response. I posted those links to demonstrate how the definition can differ slightly between sources and so others could read them if they wanted to, and form their own ideas on the subject. Unlike you I don't assume that people want me to educate them on the subject, nor do I try to force my way of thinking on others by using Latin phrases to try and intellectually intimidate other posters into feeling inferior to myself. What you have failed to point out in your selective analysis of my links is that both state quite clearly that the term Alpha Test has come to mean different things and will differ from developer to developer, publisher to publisher. I'm sure that other posters will read into these in their own way and form their own analysis of it. At the moment the majority of people seem to be happy with the current plan of releasing an unfinished "Alpha" version of DAYZ SA. (aside from the hearsay about pay to win type micro transactions, which would not be a good move). The way I see it is that at the end of the day its an individual choice to pay if you want to participate in this process. If you don't want to then wait until its all done and don't moan about being mislead because they called it an Alpha release (1st release) and told you it would not be fully complete. I personally am OK with paying for it the right to play it and become part of the "testing team". We the players are probably the most discerning of testers, We will express what we feel about the game and what could or should be changed or not changed with no beating about the bush, as has been demonstrated on these forums many times in the past. I'm done now. I have put my thoughts out there and people will make of them what they will :) and decide for themselves weather or not they feel exploited, profited off and lied to. Oh and then there is the fact that you are a Hacker and I don't wish to associate with you any more.

Love the use of Latin there ;) feeling superior yet? Although once again you have provided no counter argument and no evidence to support your statements nor have you provided a definitive definition of exactly what alpha is. Just Statements with no follow up. I concede that the word subjective was not the right one to use in describing a definition. I should have said that a definition can change slightly based on the context in which it is being used eg: Alpha means something different when used in chemistry and something different again when used from an economics or investment perspective. http://oxforddiction...n/english/alpha the first definition of alpha in this link states that the word alpha can be used as a modifier "denoting the first of a series of items or categories" so DAYZ SA Alpha Release looks to me to be a fairly accurate summery of what it will be...the first Release of DAYZ SA. Here are a few more "definitions" of what alpha means in the context of gaming and software development: both of which differ slightly, the 2nd one seem to describe rather well what the idea is with DAYZ SA. http://technicalgame...1/04/alpha.html http://www.techopedi...5935/alpha-test I must say that you have hit nail on the head there buddy! I will believe what I want to. Based on rockets actions, Bohemia's reputation, past products, my onions of their past products and your lack of any factual evidence. I don't believe that there is anything wrong in this case aside from the lack of direct communication from Rocket, I like many would like to hear these sorts of thing from him not from second hand sources, but meh its not the end of the world. The post cant have been that nonsensical as you managed to get that , Much out of it :P To me it seems you are irritated by the fact that they are asking people to pay for an unfinished product. If you don't like the Idea of doing that, then don't its that simple.

So you have been quoting from a quote which was quoted from an unidentified source? Edit: My bad just noticed that the link was posted in the next post down... Sorry about that folks :blush:

You have assumed that what you believe to be the correct definition of alpha is common knowledge. From what I can tell the definition of alpha is also subjective and has transformed via common usage to now be a way of describing a product that is not fully complete, buggy and may crash or glitch. Also I'm just curious as to how I'm impatient when I want them to take their time releasing and could not care less about when/if I get to play the alpha. Oh and I'm uninformed because I don't agree with you when you say that Bohemia and Rocket are being immoral and misrepresenting their product?... But didn't you just say that the morality of the situation is also subjective? I don't feel that they are misrepresenting anything. In fact, I feel that they are doing the best they can to be open about what to expect from the first release. Do I feel like I'm being exploited because they are offering me the choice of buying an unfinished game? No I don't. Subjectivity is based on feelings, personal tastes and opinions, not necessarily fact or fiction. So you can't really justify saying someone is uninformed when they offer a subjective point of view. Its like saying that someones religion or sexual preference is wrong because they are not informed enough to know better.

Why don't you elaborate on your answers and provide reasoning for your arguments? You might come across as someone to be taken seriously if you try to make your points in an informed manner. At the moment you seem like an uninformed, impatient troll who throws out single sentence answers, that contain no relevant information and do not contribute to the discussion or help others understand why you see things the way you do. Can you blame others for not understanding what you are on about let alone why you feel that way? I think not.

So what you are saying is that you are an impatient git, and Rocket should not take a once in a life time opportunity so that you can sit on your arse and play a game. Rocket take your time mate, as the mainland cheese add says "good things take time" :-) Enjoy Everest, and think of Sir Ed. let him guide you to triumph.

^This. Oh and this guy took a shotgun blast to the head and lived. Granted he had doctors and stuff but the human body is a hell of a lot tougher than people realize.

To the Op. DayZ, much like life is 3 things: brutal, short and unfair. Also much like life People on DayZ are opportunistic pricks who will use any advantage they can get to better their own situation. Also like Life, People in DayZ must adapt to the situation handed to them, or be destroyed in the process. Might makes right! I used to hate being sniped and constantly killed, I learned, adapted and now I don't care. If I get killed it was because I was not observant enough or I made a mistake that gave the other guy the advantage. The Issue is not that these weapons are in the game, its that there are too many left over from all the hackers, and item duplicating tents.