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ok so what im suggesting here is 2 additional modes along with the normal mode we already have in pvp mode you run around surviving as you normally would however if you are killed by a zombie you become a zombie player controlled zombies have what i call the zombie holler any zombies within a certain radius defined by the devs will come running to the location the holler was activated player controlled zombies cannot wield weapons or drive vehicles but they can use the zombie attack now classic mode is more like the prepatch unlike normal mode in classic mode you would spawn with food water and weapons the temperature meter is also removed everything else is same as always. im hoping that pvp mode will be the answer to bandits and will remove the need for it in survival and classic and the reason for classic mode is that im not fond of the idea of spawning without any sort of defense against zombies.