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Please answer this question. in all seriousness. How would us playing on PVE/Co-op servers change how you play the game on PVP servers? Do you have problems with private hives that have 100+ fully repaired cars? That's clearly not how DayZ is meant to be played.

:facepalm: Changes are bad mmkayyyy.

I tried I really did. It's raining buckets of whatthefuck in this thread.

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Yea. How dare people have different choices as to how they get entertained. Fuck those assholes. For the record I called him a troll and/or retarded cause he (and you now) have completely misunderstood and blatantly ignored pretty much everything I've said in almost every post I've made so far. Including several times of copying and pasting it, making it larger print, and stating it in a variety of ways. It's laughable at this point.

I never said it would make it easier for anyone else. Read... You want a fundamental change in the game. That it is prohibited for admins to do on their servers. Are you still not getting it? Refer to post #86 Also for the record I'm bringing up this idea with the standalone in mind which may or may not have those rules. No ones going to play the mod after the standalone comes out. What would be the point of changing something that drastic at this point in time? The standalone will be out before the end of the year last I heard. Go play another game if you find this too hard, or you get shot too much. DayZ has pvp. End of. Go and play the easy games that hold your hand and stop trying to make one of the few hard games yet another carebear game. Post #78 Not everyone likes PVP. I do to an extent, and other times I just wanna dick around by myself or meet someone and know that they're most likely not gonna fuck with me Post #71 I completely 10000000% agree that PVP adds a certain element to the gameplay. I'm sure there are tons more times I mentioned how I like PVP and I understand that it adds more interesting elements to the gameplay but to be honest I really don't give a shit anymore. You're either trolling or mentally retarded, neither one makes sense to continue arguing with. For the record DayZ is NOT fucking hard. If you think it's hard to run for hours and loot a couple places than I would tell you to go play some hand holding games. You can spawn in Cherno or Elektro, run for about 30 seconds straight to the firehouses/markets and already have a (albeit) low percent chance of finding some decent weapons, the AKM comes to mind. Which some people I've seen on here would argue is one of if not the best and most practical gun in the game.

HOW WOULD ADDING NON-PVP SERVERS FOR PEOPLE WHO PREFER TO NOT GET KILLED BY OTHER PLAYERS MAKE THE GAME EASIER FOR ANYONE OTHER THAN THOSE PLAYERS? THAT CLEARLY ISN'T YOU, SO YOU CAN STILL JOIN PVP SERVERS AND IT'LL GIVE THOSE PEOPLE A PLACE TO GO AND STILL ENJOY THE GAME. HOW EXACTLY DOES THE OP OR I PLAYING ON A NON-PVP SERVER EFFECT YOU? SERIOUSLY... WHY DO YOU CARE? Copied and pasted since you seemed to have missed it the first 400 times. You can still have your "hard" game on your PVP servers and we can have the same game just with no assholes on friendly servers. I'm getting pretty fucking tired of repeating myself.

The general gist of his post (with clear sarcasm) was in a nutshell about getting something removed from the game. Due to most everyone else in the topic thinking that OP and I are pushing for PVP to be completely removed from the game I naturally took it as him being another.

Of course the characters wouldn't be transferable. I understand that. That'd be incredibly unbalanced. There really is no wrong way to play this game. You can pretty much do whatever you want, I'm just trying to let people see there's more potential to a game like this than just PVP.

Alright you're either too stupid or too blatantly ignorant to comprehend what I've tried saying in almost literally every single post I've made in this topic so far. So I'll make it big so you might understand it better. I'M SUGGESTING THE OPTION TO PLAY ON NON PVP SERVERS. NOT REMOVE AND REPLACE PVP COMPLETELY. HOW FUCKING HARD IS THAT TO UNDERSTAND?? I'VE SAID TIME AND TIME AGAIN HOW I LIKE PVP MOST OF THE TIME AND YOU REFUSE TO LET THAT FACT SINK IN. HOW WOULD ADDING NON-PVP SERVERS FOR PEOPLE WHO PREFER TO NOT GET KILLED BY OTHER PLAYERS MAKE THE GAME EASIER FOR ANYONE OTHER THAN THOSE PLAYERS? THAT CLEARLY ISN'T YOU, SO YOU CAN STILL JOIN PVP SERVERS AND IT'LL GIVE THOSE PEOPLE A PLACE TO GO AND STILL ENJOY THE GAME. HOW EXACTLY DOES THE OP OR I PLAYING ON A NON-PVP SERVER EFFECT YOU? SERIOUSLY... WHY DO YOU CARE? And of course I'm trying to suggest something to make it closer to how I'd like the game to be, that's the whole fucking point of suggesting something. Also for the record I'm bringing up this idea with the standalone in mind which may or may not have those rules. No ones going to play the mod after the standalone comes out. What would be the point of changing something that drastic at this point in time? The standalone will be out before the end of the year last I heard.

Oh look someone else who failed to understand what the topic is even about. If I was wrong about which direction your sarcasm was aimed I apologize.

So according to you... The game should stay exactly how it is and Rocket and team should completely disregard anything anyone suggests about the game? Way to show tenacity there buddy. Just take whatever is thrown at you and don't bother trying to change anything, including things that would clearly make the game better for a select few. I'm damn glad you're not involved in any way in making the game. That's not how I am. If I have an opportunity to voice an opinion that could possibly make a game that's being developed better for me and other players I'm damn sure going to voice it. Especially at this stage, now is the time to suggest things. I've seen Rocket in an interview giving credit to someone on these very forums for suggesting something he thought was a good idea. He's listening to the community and I respect him for that. We're the ones who play the game after all and he knows it. I'm sure he plays it too but you know what I mean. I keep typing out long, well thought out responses and all you or anyone else in this topic can come up with is to tell us to suck it up and there's nothing we can do about it. Not to mention how you don't seem to be understanding after many, many times stating that I'm suggesting PVE or co-op servers as an OPTION. I'm not suggesting we replace the PVP servers with PVE servers. That would be stupid and actually hurt the game. I like PVP, just not all the time, such as when it's late at night and I'm tired and don't necessarily have the situational awareness required to PVP. So in that instance I would join a PVE/Friendly server. (Which wouldn't automatically pull you out of whatever server you're on and join with me by the way, you seem to be taking it like it would.) Everyone wins. Players who want to PVP on specific servers, and players who play friendly and want to co-op on others. What's so hard to understand about that? We're trying to make the game better by suggesting gameplay features that would enhance our experience... What are you doing?

No, you're right. This mod that's in it's alpha stage isn't intended to have that option, but this is just the mod, and there's a standalone game coming with (supposedly) way more options and features coming by the end of the year. We're suggesting a feature that would make us enjoy the game more. Not everyone likes PVP. I do to an extent, and other times I just wanna dick around by myself or meet someone and know that they're most likely not gonna fuck with me, possibly trade with me, and maybe team up against the zombies if they're on a friendly server. Which in my experience is more fun than running around and having to worry about getting shot on sight by someone after multiple days searching everywhere for gear. We have a difference of opinion, I understand and respect yours, and you guys seem too ignorant to even attempt to see our point of view and how it could help the game. PVP lovers like you guys are part of the community, so are people that don't really like PVP, why are you making it out like yours are the only opinions that matter? I personally am getting tired of risking getting shot every time I move. It's incredible fun if you're in the mood for it but if you just want to scavenge and survive cooperatively or lone wolf it, it's too risky to play like that. Also, did you mean my examples of what the elements can do to the player? If so, was that wisecrack supposed to make me mad? Oh boy someone doesn't like the 3 examples I thought up in about 3 seconds and typed out. I'm so mad bro. If Rocket and his team don't listen to the community however small the group is who have a genuine way to make the game better for them and express it on the forums, then why the hell are they making a game for other people to play? Why not just make it for themselves? In this topic alone there are 2 people who would be open to the idea of friendly only servers. I'm sure there are many more out there who would agree. They might just not have the confidence to bring their opinion out on the forums cause you guys come at them like a bunch of rabid animals for suggesting something that's different than what you're used to doing in the game. NEW FEATURES HELP GAMES. Say you're in a clan, or play with friends and don't like playing solo, but none of your friends are available when you are and you don't want to venture off by yourself and get split from the group, but still feel like playing DayZ. Hop right on single player. Your multiplayer character will still be intact and you can still have fun adventuring worry free. What's the big deal with that?

Yeah, you're right. How dare he have a difference of opinion and want to play on a server that has a feature you don't agree with and don't have to join and play on. Let's all get mad and try to force our opinions on other people because they have a different method they would enjoy the game more. Are you also mad that some people prefer to play single player/co-op with friends Arma instead of multiplayer PVP? If this was a game like COD or BF where the only thing in multiplayer was to find other people and kill them then I would say yeah it's a pretty stupid idea. He (and I if you didn't notice) would just like a single player DayZ. That's it. If you want to play single player you play "single player", if you want to play PVP play on PVP servers. There's nothing more to it than that. You guys are getting mad for no reason and it's pretty comical considering he was only suggesting something. He voiced his opinion and suggested a different DayZ experience, that's all. You guys sound like a bunch of spoiled brats that aren't used to not getting your way. What possible problem could you have with someone who would prefer to play a co-op experience rather than online PVP? Cause that's not how your precious mod is "supposed" to be played? I for one seriously hope a single player experience is implemented. It would be a stupid idea not to at least try and do something like that. I would probably play on friendly servers more than PVP servers. Although to be honest the zeds would need to be wayyy harder, the elements and environment would need to be much more dangerous (i.e. heavy rainfall during night would give you hypothermia; which would give you impaired vision, exposure damage, etc.) When I used to play GTAIV freemode it was fucking chaos. The very definition of spawn trapped slaughter. (If you've never played it imagine everyone, every, single, time, they spawned would spawn in the general area wherever the largest concentration of players was, with weapons. Sometimes you didn't feel like being killed over and over and over again until you can finally get away. With friendly fire OFF, someone could stand right next to you and shoot you in the face until they run out of ammo and not damage you in the least. Not to say they didn't still try, but it was much more fun not having to worry so much. When I wanted to be able to kill people and die myself I set my preferences accordingly. So I'll ask again, why do you care so much that people like us want to play cooperatively on completely separate servers instead of on PVP servers?

I wouldn't say replace the sodas with bottled water but I won't be carrying cans of coke or pepsi during a zedapocolypse. What if you have to run? Every can you have in your pack could be a fizz grenade waiting to go off. Not to mention probably flat by the time you get to drink it. In any case, more options are always welcomed by me,weapons, ammo, food, or drinks... Adding more options can only improve the game.

The amount of people that have replied to this topic that are raging to the OP seem to not understand what he's trying to say. He's not asking for PVP servers to be completely removed and replaced with PVE servers, he wants the option to play on specific servers that are made for cooperation instead of having the constant threat of getting killed. Which in NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM would affect the PVP servers. If you want PVP, join one of those servers, if you want a nice relaxed time scavenging and setting up camps, not having to worry about if you're going to get shot in the face with an AS50 while looting, join one of those. This way EVERYONE wins and gets what they want. Not just the PVP players. What problem could you possibly have with someone who wants to play a different way than you do? I completely 10000000% agree that PVP adds a certain element to the gameplay. It sucks when you die, but it's funny for some reason when I die I usually spawn and have a more interesting experience than before I died. This last time I was looting the NWAF and died, I spawned and found a crossbow, I've had so much fun using that as my primary and I even passed up a Winchester to keep it. It's seriously underrated. Sometimes however you just want to survive. Most of you are jumping down OP's throat and have not a fucking clue what he's even asking for. You're getting mad over something that wouldn't affect you in the least. Not everyone likes PVP and wants to play exactly how you do... grow up and get the fuck over yourselves.

He might've signed in there and didn't see you. If he spawned, didn't fire, didn't say anything directly to you, and went about his business then I would say that it was just some poor soul in the wrong place at the wrong time. I'm assuming you killed him because you knew what he had on him? Poor bastard.

I agree with the OP. I can count on one hand how many times someone actually had the balls to try and shoot it out with me. For the most part (I think most of you will agree) my deaths are usually getting sniped while looting. I think it should take a page from GTAIV's book and have the option for the admins of a server to be able to switch player to player damage off, if you've ever played GTAIV freemode you understand why it was a godsend. That way the only griefing people could do to you is follow you around and aggro zombies onto you to try and get you killed. Which would actually take some effort and is not as anonymous, so 99% of the hill snipers would probably be off those servers.

I was in a gun shop today, they had a .50 Cal sitting right on the counter. Anyone (in America) can own pretty much any gun under the sun... If they've got the money. Got a Sig 5.56 on my mind actually. It's amazing to see how people who don't know much about guns say they're hard to get and as someone said wouldn't be common in a zedpocolypse. Try this on for size... I have 1,000 rounds of 5.56 sitting in a toolbox in my closet right now :). Guns would not be a problem for this Rhode Island boy.

I may get back on for a little but for the most part it'll just be to fuck around. I tried to set up a serious camp for the first time now that I imagine tents are saving correctly in the barn North of the NEAF earlier this evening. Of course the zombies bugged out and wouldn't leave the barn, they were bugged facing the corners not noticing me and not moving. So I take out my G17 and 2 head shots later I have an empty barn. My plan was to set up camp with a tent and unload my Alice pack into it. After that I wanted to go gather some firewood and make a fireplace inside the barn and just chill for a little, then go loot the airfield. I didn't get much further than that because I was very rudely interrupted from my RP attempt. Almost immediately after I placed the tent I hear a grenade go off. Alright no biggie, I slowly maneuvered behind the tent and just waited for the sonofabitch to come for me. I was looking out the little 6"x3' vertical window and couldn't see or hear anything. Finally after about 30-40 seconds he comes in spraying an M4 all over the place. He clearly couldn't see me cause he was facing the back of the barn as I pumped about 5 slugs from an 870 into his right side. He passed out almost immediately and I finished him off with 3 more slugs to the chest. About 5 seconds after the flies started singing his body sinks through the floor. He passed out right in the doorway and died there so I thought maybe he had a buddy right outside that saw him get domed and hid his body as fast as he could so I couldn't loot his shit. I stand up and slow walk around the tent aiming out the door the whole time just in case there's someone else that wants to taste a slug. I go outside and see a bunch of dead zombies that I didn't kill and I didn't hear him kill lying right outside the barn doors as well as a few still runnin' around. I stood in the doorway searching the area half expecting to be shot at any moment but I didn't. My thought process at this time was that this guy tried to kill me and somehow hid his own body. Scripter or Hacker one of the two. Unless as I said his buddy hid his body and then aborted at light speed. Then that turned into disappointment because I've been wanting to set up a camp here ever since I found this place and now some asshole knows where I just placed my only tent (Not sure if you can move them once they're placed). I wasn't able to come up with much of a plan after that because I died shortly thereafter no shots no nothing just *bam* dropped dead. So now I'm 100% sure I killed a scripter or hacker, and he was so butthurt that he hid his own body and executed me as soon as he spawned back in. I don't usually come across any hackers on the servers I usually play on luckily, but as it stands anyone in the server could be a hacker or a scripter. If you kill the wrong person they can just push a key and the 3 hours you just spent looting and planning to get up North to set up a camp for yourself is shot to shit by some butt hurt crybaby. In this situation I was clearly defending myself from this guy and he got fucked up "legally" and he resorts to scripting me to death to get his pride back. I don't even like to fuck with people, I have 50k humanity due to the auto-generate bug, I help when I can, if I can. My point is hacking and scripting are a HUGE problem with the mod and from what I've read there's absolutely NOTHING that can be done to effectively combat either. So IMO we should leave the mod to the kids who need training wheels to be effective in combat and they can script kill each other all day. At the end of the day, anyone on any server at any time could have the ability to nuke you from orbit and destroy the last hours or days you spent gathering supplies on a whim to feel in control. It doesn't seem like a great way to spend my scarce free time at the moment. Then again this event is still fresh in my mind and when I get up tomorrow morning I'll likely go to another server and try to track down a tent and start over. DayZ is fun to the point of addiction, it's really too bad there's so many sad little people who need to feel powerful. Can't wait for the standalone, Rocket's already pretty much got my $$$ in his pocket for it. I just hope it's not this rampant. TL;DR Why did you come on a forum made up of mostly text posts and get mad that you have to read something?

True, but it was my first attempt since I started playing DayZ to even try to get a camp off the ground. I was excited by the location when I found it and how the only entrance was facing North towards the woods. Seemed like a good place at the time. Not sure why a few of you insist that I didn't expect it to be found though. I fully expected it to be raided. Just not that quickly.

There was maybe 10 people on the server at the time, if that. I don't understand how he apparently had the ability to silently kill multiple zombies without making a single sound that were literally on the other side of the wall from where I was, hide his own body after he died, and nuke me when he respawned, yet didn't have any NVG's or anything. Something is fishy about the whole thing.

Trying way too hard, way, wayyy, too hard.

haha I wouldn't say that's a rant though, just sharing my enlightenment.

I saw one about a RP server it looked kind of fun but it didn't really pique my interest at all. I've been messing around in the Arma II editor though. Flying, crashing, driving, and shooting vehicles and it's pretty fun.