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Sorry to hear that. HFB have been really great with me. Every time I screw something up they've been there to unscrew it pretty quickly.

Sorry to hear that. HFB have been really great with me. Every time I screw something up they've been there to unscrew it pretty quickly.

"Funny video but what tool hack is this?" Fixed that for you ... fortunately the pun works here.

The command would be "Save Bike" or whatever vehicle it is that you're saving. However, that doesn't bring it back if someone else finds it where it was saved and it's stolen.

We are discussing non-legal aka hacked items. No where, in any of this thread, did I ever mention banning someone for "legal" items. I'm not even sure where you got the idea that I'd even consider banning someone for a legitimate item.

In the end, Rick, what this boils down to is this. 1. You will not receive a global "Battleye" ban for using the item. 2. Some servers and admins will allow you to use it as long as you didn't get caught actually scripting it into the game. 3. Somer servers and admins, such as myself, when we see items of this nature in the log will give you a written warning in game. If you refuse to honor the request to remove the item we will kick you. If you come back and still refuse to honor the request you will be banned from the server. 4. Some servers and admins will immediately kick you, without warning, when they see the item ... see the post by Venthos (I think it was) on the publicvariableval.txt that will auto-kick anyone caught with illegitimate items. 5. Some servers and admins will just outright ban and kick you without warning. Let your conscience be your guide, and whatever outcome happens, happens. ~DB

Tell you what, bring one to US 1550 or US 2522 and we'll go through the process of warning, kick, ban, and then you can come file a server report here and see how far you get.

Tell you what, bring one to US 1550 or US 2522 and we'll go through the process of warning, kick, ban, and then you can come file a server report here and see how far you get.

This subject again? So let's clarify. Server rule 11, from here: http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/62195-server-hosting-rules/ 11. As a server admin you must not: You are not permitted to ban players for killing yourself or clan members. You are not permitted to shutdown your server when your killed. You are not permitted to shutdown your server when you lose a vehicle. You are not permitted to kick or ban for smacktalk. You are not permitted to ban for suspected cheats or exploits of a non-server-disruptive nature, including but not limited to ghosting, unverified cheating, duping and similar, UNLESS you have solid evidence, IE logs. I've bolded and underlined the pertinent section and put the best part in red. Please notice the red letters. I'll write that again: Please notice all those pretty red letters, because they actually mean something. Since hacked items are cheating, and (for the most part) hacked items are logged, which makes it verified cheating, I think that banning people at the server level for having them more than meets the requirements set forth in rule 11. No amount of crying, "but Rocket said ...," is going to change that. Quit hiding between Rocket's legs. If you're using illegitimate items you're a cheater. So, if I see you on my server, with a hacked item (in the logs,) you'll get a warning via global chat, then a kick if you ignore me. If you come back with those items you'll be banned. ~DB

Hooah. All the way.

What? Where'd you pull that shit from? Definitely do not know what you're talking about.

What? Where'd you pull that shit from? Definitely do not know what you're talking about.

You might not be globally banned by Battleye, but a lot admins do locally (server) ban players for hacked items. From what I can tell the soldier skin is not a legitimate spawn. The only place I've seen it at all has been in hacker boxes and being worn by hackers, or being worn by people who took it from a hacker box. It's certainly not listed on DayZWiki ... although that might not be a 100% accurate source. And, while the soldier skin is the least of my worries, I consider the use of all hacked items to be disruptive to both my server and to my regular, rule abiding players. On my servers, if you come in with hacked items, and I catch you in the logs, you'll get a warning. If you refuse to listen you'll get kicked. If you come back with hacked items you'll be locally/server banned. In the DayZMod forum "server" section is a link: http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/62195-server-hosting-rules/ I point everyone to rule 11, as quoted below: 11. As a server admin you must not: You are not permitted to ban players for killing yourself or clan members. You are not permitted to shutdown your server when your killed. You are not permitted to shutdown your server when you lose a vehicle. You are not permitted to kick or ban for smacktalk. You are not permitted to ban for suspected cheats or exploits of a non-server-disruptive nature, including but not limited to ghosting, unverified cheating, duping and similar, UNLESS you have solid evidence, IE logs.I've underline and bolded the pertinent part. Please notice the part that reads, "... UNLESS you have solid evidence, IE logs." Since hacked items are cheating, and (for the most part) hacked items are logged, which makes it verified cheating, I think that banning people at the server level for having them more than meets the requirements set forth in rule 11. No amount of crying, "but Rocket said ...," is going to change that. ~DB

You might not be globally banned by Battleye, but a lot admins do locally (server) ban players for hacked items. From what I can tell the soldier skin is not a legitimate spawn. The only place I've seen it at all has been in hacker boxes and being worn by hackers, or being worn by people who took it from a hacker box. It's certainly not listed on DayZWiki ... although that might not be a 100% accurate source. And, while the soldier skin is the least of my worries, I consider the use of all hacked items to be disruptive to both my server and to my regular, rule abiding players. On my servers, if you come in with hacked items, and I catch you in the logs, you'll get a warning. If you refuse to listen you'll get kicked. If you come back with hacked items you'll be locally/server banned. In the DayZMod forum "server" section is a link: http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/62195-server-hosting-rules/ I point everyone to rule 11, as quoted below: 11. As a server admin you must not: You are not permitted to ban players for killing yourself or clan members. You are not permitted to shutdown your server when your killed. You are not permitted to shutdown your server when you lose a vehicle. You are not permitted to kick or ban for smacktalk. You are not permitted to ban for suspected cheats or exploits of a non-server-disruptive nature, including but not limited to ghosting, unverified cheating, duping and similar, UNLESS you have solid evidence, IE logs.I've underline and bolded the pertinent part. Please notice the part that reads, "... UNLESS you have solid evidence, IE logs." Since hacked items are cheating, and (for the most part) hacked items are logged, which makes it verified cheating, I think that banning people at the server level for having them more than meets the requirements set forth in rule 11. No amount of crying, "but Rocket said ...," is going to change that. ~DB

So here's one for you experts ... wtf is this mess? From my logs: 21.09.2012 02:19:53: Gravel (***.***.***.***) GUID REDACTED ****************** - #0 "Bandit1_DZ" 5:4 [0,0,0] 21.09.2012 02:19:53: Gravel (***.***.***.***) GUID REDACTED ****************** - #0 "DZ_Backpack_EP1" 5:6 [0,0,0] 21.09.2012 02:26:00: Gravel (***.***.***.***) GUID REDACTED ****************** - #0 "MedBox0" 5:177 [6406,2762,6] 21.09.2012 02:26:00: Gravel (***.***.***.***) GUID REDACTED ****************** - #0 "MedBox0" 5:178 [6399,2768,6] 21.09.2012 02:26:01: Gravel (***.***.***.***) GUID REDACTED ****************** - #0 "MedBox0" 5:182 [6417,2753,6] 21.09.2012 02:26:01: Gravel (***.***.***.***) GUID REDACTED ****************** - #0 "MedBox0" 5:183 [6420,2750,6] 21.09.2012 02:26:01: Gravel (***.***.***.***) GUID REDACTED ****************** - #0 "MedBox0" 5:184 [6424,2746,6] 21.09.2012 02:26:14: Gravel (***.***.***.***) GUID REDACTED ****************** - #0 "DZ_CivilBackpack_EP1" 5:198 [6410,2717,12] Hint: That's my character, the IP and GUID match, and I was in game on this server at this time. However, I never interacted with a Civilian Backpack. I was close to the Cherno Hospital, which I believe is the coordinates given here, but I never went into the Hospital, and I certainly didn't interact with any Medboxes. In fact I didn't interact with anything medical. No bandages, no pain killers, no epi-pens, no morphine. And haven't interacted with anything medical in at least a week. Also, there wasn't some weird hacker thing going on. It was just myself and one other player on my server at the time, and he is a known entity, not a hacker. So can anyone explain this, because to my mind this brings the veracity of log files into question. How can I ban players and use log files as proof when I see that the log files are not even close to being correct?

Then why doesn't any other loot spawn show like the Alice Pack I saw in the apartments?

Then why doesn't any other loot spawn show like the Alice Pack I saw in the apartments?

I think you've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a shit what you think.

I think you've obviously mistaken me for someone who gives a shit what you think.

Venthos, I'll make a deal with you. You get this working on my servers and I'll type the lists for you. ~DB

As well as the proof that you're violating the rules.

Venthos, Would it be ok to PM or email you Re; instituting this? I have some questions I'd like to get answered first. Best, DB

Venthos, Would it be ok to PM or email you Re; instituting this? I have some questions I'd like to get answered first. Best, DB

I like both Private and Open servers, but just an FYI ... two hours a day will not keep an open server hacker free. If that's the extent of your available time I'd go with a private hive. You'll be able to password it and only let in people you trust. As far as Vilayer vs HFB ... I've not used Vilayer so I can't comment either good or bad. I do, however, use HFB to run multiple servers (both open and private) and I'm extremely pleased with them. Good luck, DB

I like both Private and Open servers, but just an FYI ... two hours a day will not keep an open server hacker free. If that's the extent of your available time I'd go with a private hive. You'll be able to password it and only let in people you trust. As far as Vilayer vs HFB ... I've not used Vilayer so I can't comment either good or bad. I do, however, use HFB to run multiple servers (both open and private) and I'm extremely pleased with them. Good luck, DB