Agreed! Though I think the hive quality should not matter, we should have private hives with full support regardless. Though, the state of the hive system today really does help push the point. Emulation is not about code exploitation or "direct functions intended for something else". You have no idea what you're talking about. Emulation is just that - emulation of software or hardware that already exists. It is not stealing. Further, emulation software for any type of soft or hardware is 100% legal virtually everywhere. Its not even a gray area. Its entirely Legal. Here, maybe this will help: tr.v. em·u·lat·ed, em·u·lat·ing, em·u·lates 1. To strive to equal or excel, especially through imitation: an older pupil whose accomplishments and style I emulated. 2. To compete with successfully; approach or attain equality with. 3. Computer Science To imitate the function of (another system), as by modifications to hardware or software that allow the imitating system to accept the same data, execute the same programs, and achieve the same results as the imitated system. And what about the meantime? Why not simply offer support or at least permit hive servers to operate without contest? Why not open a forum for discussion? Now seems like an awfully good time to do that don't you think? You have full control over everything. Every possible setting. You have your own independant database and you have whatever redundant security measures you can possibly think of setting up at your disposal. Thats about the best description I can give without "possibly breaking forum rules" I think. Very well spoken.