WalkerDown (DayZ)

Yes. Please pay more attention to the users bug reports. Yes.

When an update doesn't fix what's supposed to fix (ie: graphical glitches, saving vehicles, saving tents...), but instead it introduces new bugs (ie: fuel not saving, HUD icons bugged) .. then it's a step back. It's so easy to understand.

It's fun how they pass a bug (hud not working) as a "feature" .. coz the debug monitor will be removed eventually in the future.. lol. 1) You don't know your banditry status: since the "number" is bugged you don't really know what's happening. Sometime you have negative humanity without killing anyone, or the opposite. Knowing that value was the only way to have an idea. 2) You don't know your blood level: loosing colors doesn't works at all.. it depends of the server settings and hours of time, sometime you can see with shaved colors at 11k bloods.. and in full color with only 8k blood.. just because of the different hour of the day. So you don't know how much you need to eat, or if you really need a transfusion to recover your full blood. That's not a debug monitor, it shows essential informations. I agree,we don't need the number of zeds spawned, neither how many zeds we killed in real time.. but WE NEED the blood level and humanity level, until the icons are reliable enough. I stay with 1.7.2.5 on private hive (no glitches) until you deploy a proper hotfix, coz you fixed the major issue but introducing come annoying others.

A WIPE will only help the hackers/cheaters: all the legit players will loose their gear, while the cheaters will acquire it again within minutes. With a wipe you gonna "punish" the wrong side, so no thank you. If you want to have your gear wiped, just kill your character and respawn.

It still random players accusing other random players of cheating, doing it here or doing it on any amateur (not official) website on the web doesn't make any difference: you're Gogster as i'm WalkerDown, your word (as mine) has no importance, you may be a cheater or a troll, i'll never know. I'm not here to bash others valuable work and good intentions, but to prove that the current system is flawed on many levels... to "force" who's in charge to do so, to deploy (finally) a official (and good) method to fight the cheaters, coz the current one doesn't work at all.

Neither fraps would help.. i could film a cheater (or even setup one...) and then saying it is you. During the video you won't see the GUID .. and even if nicknames are on, you can change em with the one of the "victim". All this stuff (and this whole forum section) is pointless at the moment: it's players words (pretending to be admins) versus other players words (accused to be cheaters), and none knows who's lying and who's telling the truth. This is why no actions are taken at the moment (nor from this site admins/devs/battleye).

If there's an admin or game developer that will be so gentle to give me a reply i would be really glad.. i'm sure that many other users are interested in the same topic. I go to the point: This forum is open to anyone to post and anyone can claim that someone else is a cheater without any apparent consequence, in example i can open a thread myself, copying a report from another post, and claim that someone else is a cheater. I can do it for no reasons, because i'm a troll, or i can do it for a reason (ie: because i want to punish someone that i doesn't like). Now we have legit reports, with admins that knows their "job" and are capable of correctly identify a cheater, but we have also noob admins reports (ppl reporting other ppl that have not cheating at all), and "kids" (admins or false admins reporting ppl that have not cheated.. intentionally, to "punish" em someway). My first question is: how we can distinguish em? Why these reports are exposed to anyone here? How's possible that i can come here and accuse someone of cheating with no rules at all? "Name and Shaming" (this is how it's called when you accuse someone publically...) is prohibited on most gaming forums for the above reasons: it's open to be abused, since you cannot distinguish someone that is telling the truth, from someone that is lying (intentionally or don't).. you may know only with some investigation, BUT after that the (supposed cheater) data are already exposed. My second question is then: why these data are public? Who's in charge here to determine if a report is genuine or not? It wouldn't be better if these reports were kept private until someone (with the right competence) would approve them, deciding with a reasonable certainty that someone is really a cheater prior to expose his data to the public? If there's no one doing this joib atm (because there are no enough resources) then we're leaving this job to the server admins? If so, this is completely wrong, since it has been proven that a server admin can be competent or don't.. and there's no "tag" near your nickname to determine it: i may be a server admin myself.. or anyone else. Thanks.

What's exactly the reason of spamming user data here then? I'm going to open a separate thread for it anyway... since this is a generic question.

The truth is that those "cheaters" won't care a shit of you posting a bunch of text on this forum, you are not doing any good service, you are CLAIMING of have found a cheater and none is going to ban him, because again you are proving NOTHING with text. Instead you're doing just the opposite: you're HELPING THE TROLLS to spread the paranoia, and while doing it you're actually giving another reason for a ****head (or just a kid.. or just an incompetent "admin") to post brainless stuff for no reason. Do you want to see how easy it is? I'm going to open a thread now with this info: ======= 04.09.2012 09:13:17: Gogster (83.227.218.4:2354) 0678310ef40a6023abfc613338c92978c teleporting and "parachuting down" on players, killing them 1 by one. before hand he changed whole server inventory then killed every one by putting them into an unconcious bleeding out state. ======= I've just kept your nickname and ip and GUID from my server, and can ASSURE you that YOU are a cheater.. and you must believe me, coz i'm the god of admin, and i have a bunch of text that proves it. So please, dear Mr.Battleye ban this guy... and ban the 100 other random guys that i'm going to post in the next 24 hours. Now please explain to me why the hell someone shoudl believe your mouth and not mine.. and not someone else (troll/kid/cheater himself/whatever). This is why NONE is going to ban these guys, because none can trust your word (you're not like Jesus).

Usually i hide em.. when i don't, it's because i use em as bait to camp-snipe the curious ppl (or to kill the same guy multiple time coz he wants to loot his body.. until he figures that's a very bad idea).

Right.. and that comes from the same devs that are (as today) unable to fix the problem in Arma2? Why it should be different for DayZ? They got the skill to do so ... now?

This "open alpha" exists to get ppl interest to SELL (money) the final game... so stop talk about "opportunity", we actually doing their interest while playing the game. So yes, i'm getting fun, but i'm paying it with my time while testing it (plus ARMA2 has been on top steam sellers.. and it is from the same company; it's not that they are giving a present to us).

I understand perfectly what alpha-testing is, but this is NOT a traditional testing, this is a OPEN alpha, it means that the players (us) aren't common testers, but normal players: we test the product WHILE we play. The current glitches issue is a showstopper (if you know what a showstopper is, if not pls google it), and it MUST be hotfixed, including "hiding" the problem (removing the contents), until the root cause is found and addresses. They did the same already in the past (ie: barbed wire), so your argument is not valid. We're also not talking about a "flat land", the glitches are caused by few contents, in fact if you ever played on those private hive servers you may noticed no difference at all with traditional map (again, before talking, educate yourself). (and yes i've developed a few more than "one thing"... but im not here to challenge you on who got the longest stick, so no more blabbling pls).

AMATEURS have fixed the map (there's alternate maps on private HIVE servers) to eliminate the glitches while it will be fixed (they basically have eliminated the objects that produces the glitches, in fact on these servers you can freely go to the airports/berezino/.. whatever)... and the game developers are not able to do the same until they address the root cause? The option then are 2: 1) They are intentionally ignoring the problem; 2) They are incompetent. You chose.

Best of the best: AS50 ... that's pretty obvious, urban areas in chernarus are limited, and chances to caught a AS50 guy before he caught you are pretty limited (not impossible.. but hard: you can only count to counter snipe him). About "normal" rifles, guns, machine guns.. etc. Mk48: probably the best gun for PVP .. the only downside it's that it accepts only the 240 mags.. they aren't exactly rare, but you won't find em everywhere. SAW: not that good as the Mk48... but it also accepts the STANAG that are pretty common. M14 AIM: basically a DMR with no tele, it's the perfect weapon for mid-range, and one of my most preferred weapons. FAL: hi-damage and precision (more than Mk48 and SAW) .. but again the mags aren't common (heli crash only) AKM: hi-damage and common mags, probably the most understimated weapon in the game (i've seen ppl trading the AK-74 and M16/A4 for it.. while the AKM is tons better), downside.. the zeds.. but who cares about em nowaday? :) ...then there's the guns in the middle.. according to your preference. ..to finish with the most overrated weapon in the game, the TACTICOOL© M4 CCO SD ... that has only one good thing: the looking; for the rest, it is the worst weapon in the game, so don't bitch if a guy with a makarov will kill ya while you're trying to take him down with that peashooter.

Indeed, without a phone number you dunno who's calling you.. but you're not entitled to give out these information to anyone, because the owner didn't authorized you to do so. I know you want to publish em to make other admins aware ot the possible cheater, but at the same time you're giving them to anyone else.. and this is the bad part. Also most users here are posting a bunch of plain text... i'm not sure how some text would prove anything? I can write the same "log" changing the GUID and the IP.. and the username.. using these ones from honest players.. just because they stolen my choppa (a classic example of kid admin).. how do you know if im honest or not? It's my word against your, and here's where the problems beings. The current system of spamming users information across a public forum is wrong and open to abuse. You're making a bigger damage than the cheater themself.

You can't punish ppl because the developers are unable to address properly the cheaters. I mean all the people here knows perfectly that an AS50 TWS isn't legit, so i would condamn those experienced users that uses an hacked weapon only because the rules says they can't get banned.. but on the other side the majority of players don't even surf this forum, there's also NO official DayZ guide (apart those amateur wiki sites), some of them doesn't even talk in english, so they might not know why the hell they are being kicked or banned by the admin. If you browse this forum you'll fing tons of players that believes that a L85 is an hacked weapon.. or that the SVD Camo doesn't exists in Dayz.. and stuff like this.. imagine the rest of the players, there's thousand that doesn't know that a AS50 TWS is an hacked weapon. If you have to blame someone, then blame the developers (but you know it's alpha.. so there's nothing to blame.. yet) .. or at least KICK these players trying to explain em what's happening.. but don't ban em.

This thread exposes why it is bad to post private user informations on the forum, without being filtered by an official channel (developers), you clearly see a legit player GUID spammed here for no reason. I believe you would call this a collateral damage: I've censored the last part of the GUID.. of course.

On the rules you won't see mentioned that you cannot post their name and last names.. or their naked pictures or whatever... it's not that they have pin point the obvious. Moderators have invited to not do so, it's not that they changed their mind, posting private informations is obviusly WRONG, is that hard to understand that a IP address is a personal information? You can collect IP addresses if you whish, but YOU CANNOT POST THEM ON A PUBLIC PLACE .. especially if associate to other informations (like where the IP "was", the nickname associated to the IP, and stuff like this...). Is that hard to read a law or to follow the rules?

You didn't got the point.. if it was for me, you can burn em all. The problem is that none knows if a bunch of text posted by a random guy is legit or not.. it's not that you call yourself "admin" makes you special, you can be a troll, a hacker, a cheater, or just incompetent.

The fact that there are idiots on the net doesn't means that anyone is authorized to do the same idiocy. You suggest to make all these information public, since there's someone that already have them? You're not entitled to break the rules just because someone else is doing so.. it's like saying: i cheat because the others cheats as well. This is wrong on many levels. Also, it seems that this is my personal opinion... but if any of you have ever surfed an official game forum, you know that a "name and shame" is *NOT* accepted, and you know why? It's because of kids and trolls. Doing otherwise is abusing of your admin position, since these informations aren't public available.. there's nothing to think about.

In my opinion the best way to handle this is to avoid posting private data in a public forum, neither to post it on an amateur (where for amateur i don't mean unprofessional, but not official) service like CBL (or similar), but to ask the developers to provide a guideline to handle the situation properly. In example they may setup an email address where you may send the reporte, they will investigate them, and if the supposed cheater is really cheater, they will add his guid to the banlist. In this way: 1) You won't be the court and the judge: that's to avoid inexpert admins to post private informations when they are unsure if someone is really cheating or don't; 2) You won't risk to break the forum rules posting user private information to the public; 3) Anything happens there will be "official", so decisions will be taken at an higher level (again: you cannot know the preparation of an admin: admins are just users that have decided to spend some money to run a server, none knows about their technical preparation). @Beans: this is why internet is a mess.. because of ppl that doesn't understand the importance of having certain information reserved. I'm not asking you to learn anyway, you don't need to... the admins and moderators already knows.

This is a public website (it doesn't count if it's a forum), you don't even need an account to read the posts here. Sorry to tell you, but you don't know what you're talking about: you have absolutely NO rights to expose private informations here, neither players GUID's, neither players IP's, and forum admins and moderators have already warned to NOT doing so. For my understand of how interner works: having your static IP published on a forum may get you in serous troubles, even a kid with no knowledge may use a botnet to DDOS you and you'll be fu**ed to use internet until you'll ask your ISP (and in certain case you need to pay for..) to change your IP (it may take days). Yes, most ppl have a dynamic IP, but many others have a static IP, so stop talking about stuff you don't know, PLEASE. If you believe to have the rights to expose ppl data (considering that you don't even know what a static IP is) to the public, because you have to do a "job", then you shouldn't admin anything. Thank you.

With private i mean not "official" (this is the official DayZ forum). Nor that anyone can check any place on the net where IP's may be published without the user authorization... but avoiding inexpert admins or trolls to spam people IP's and GUID's on this (official) forum is a good start.

I don't think there's any problem into submitting cheating reports in a private area, as along these information are kept (and handled) by who really need em (admins). I'm not criticizing how the (cheaters) GUID's are handled, i am against publishing these informations by random ppl here, exposing em to the whole net.