WalkerDown (DayZ)

Cheaters on Vylayers servers are 3 times more than on other private server (or primary hive for lingor / official hive for chernarus). The percentage (these days) is around 30% vs 13%. Based on numbers (not on my feelings). We have developed a way to collect these stats with the help of some server admins and logs analyzation, they includes: - teleports; - item spawning; - user behaviour (ie: using of external map hack tools); - mass killing and specific target [from distance] killing; - combat logging (collected separately.. they are not included in the above numbers; they are too many). Cheaters on Fallujah (where 90% of servers sits on the Vilayer network) are so many that is actually beyond "fun". Now you have script kiddies "donating" vehicles and weapons to the other users publically in chat ... they doesn't even "hide" anymore. :)

Hey Tom hurry.. come to see! There's 3 kids fighting down the street...

I won't be like this... if the game will be popular, you'll have the same number of cheaters; if the game will sucks, you will have few. It's like this for any game out there...

From someone with dozen kills per day, using 99% a sniper rifle.. i would say: remove ALL of them (including the CZ). There's no really reason to use another weapon in this game (unless you wants some thrill or wanna do rambo), it's basically a sniper vs sniper (when players has some brain), or sniper VS dead-body (when the other player isn't aware of the sniping/camping power). I must admit that in most situation i would had to think alot more before deciding to kill someone without a sniper rifle... while know i just sit somewhere and i don't think twice before shooting at someone, because i know that he basically can only run away and he can't shot me back.. i agree it's fun, but a way TOO EASY. I know perfectly that you may find scoped rifles in real life.. but this is a game, and those rifles are unbalancing the game. A Lee is more than enough for our purpose...

The reason of having so many script kiddies on Fallujah, is mainly because all the servers are hosted on Vilayer, and that network (neither most of the admins renting a server there) doesn't care about cheaters (you won't see anyone banned on their HIVE or such.. if you're lucky enough you may find an admin to place a ban on a single server). If you try Lingor on Vilayer you'll find almost the same situation (a little less, coz more cheaters have moved to the newest map...). I like to have new maps (another reason to continue to play...), but Vilayer is contributing to make this game (mod) worse.. day by day, it's totally out of control.

Same bug of plain dayz.. since Fallujah is based on the .5 ...so you need to repair everything (including all the glasses) and it will stop to leak.

What you didn't got (and it seems you'll don't.. hence i'm posting again) is that this game is not designed to be played by kids, that's probably the main reason of why he were cheating, he were only trying to get some fun in a game that cannot be enjoyed much at his age, since he didn't developed yet a certain mentality. The youngest probably have loved to cheat as well (get fun), but he didn't known how, or you would have "two little turds" (to use again your words) to "punish". If you are really trying to be a good janitor you should learn about gaming, about the maturity level of a certain title (it's not there to annoy us, it's there for a good damn reason, and it's not only about the gore level or the blood colour), try to understand first yourself what a kid "needs", instead of leaving him free of doing whatever he wants and then punish him because he kept the wrong decision: you didn't TEACH him. Is he 12yo? Then give him a 12yo "videogame".. is he 5yo.. give him a 5yo one.. is he 18yo? Then finally give him a M+ title to play, and KEEP AN EYE on him while he plays or surf the web. But hey.. it's your family, i hope all the best for you all. //im out of this thread now, it's off topic here and honestly a too much "serious" argument to be discussed here.

It's getting worse (whenever it is possible...). Every server we joined, we found script kiddies teleporting vehicles and players away.. they were systematically joining every single server doing this.

Thanks god (or any other alien entity) that i didn't had a father like you. If you do not understand what you did wrong (we are talking about a kid cheating, not an adult) then you do not deserve any further explanation. I suggest you to correct your parenting, or you'll grow up (this time for real) some "big little turds" (to use your own words). If you were just trolling.. ignore this message.

Easy: cheating yourself.

Nice map, but there's a VERY big problem on all Vilayer servers: there's tons of cheaters, and the sad part is that many of them are the server admins (two were literally teleporting, and when i asked them.. they said: im the admin so i can do it). Playing on their servers actually is pretty like doing PvP until a cheater will kill ya with an AS50 TWS and a solder clothing (it seems the soldier clothing is now the new official cheater vest). I think i'll wait for a single server hive, the number of cheaters there is lower due to the fact that they cannot server hopping and if they get banned they stay banned.

You should have told me before that you were another macho-wannabe, i wouldn't have wasted 5 messages. Good luck sir.

Anything not mantained by BattleEye or DayZ developers (hive db) is not official, that's why is ignored by the most, that's why is "exploitable", and that's why it's far to be effective to fight the cheaters. We need a definitive and official and working anticheating, not those admirably but unfortunately not working initiatives. Maybe you're missing that we're aiming for the final game, not for some amateur mod, and so we absolutely need something OFFICIAL, over the parts, not a "community blabla thing".

Players cannot control other players, since they are "involved" as well. I don't trust anyone in this game neither auto-elected "administrator". I've seen so much shit in this game (ie: admin banning because someone killed em; or resetting their servers because of stolen camp/vehicle/whatever) that forcing others to trust your word is pathetic. You say that guy is a cheater, he says that he is not... who's right? None, you're both right = you're both wrong. We need someone over the parts to determine who's cheating, your mouth (neither mine) is more important that anyone else (ironically, including the cheaters). Unfortunately we don't know if someone is honest, just reading his nickname.

If i'm a troll or not doesn't makes any difference: what i've exposed is exactly what a troll is used to do.. that's why they are called trolls: they "waste" their time to annoy you, exactly like you "waste" your time to play. We don't need a bunch of text to expose a supposed cheater, we need a good reliable way to find em, and they must be global banned, coz they doesn't care at all if you ban them on "your" server, there's thousand other servers. You may continue with an amateur website (it's your time!) , but i want the developers to invest their time for something official that really works.

Accounts aren't checked.. i can write 10 reports with 10 fake nicknames (and IP's.. and whatever) just to force you to believe that the mentiones GUID really comes from a cheater. You still understand ppl on their own words, with no evidence, and you're understimate the wilfulness of a troll/idiot. That's the reason of why an "unofficial" and unregulated cheat report repository isn't going to take serious by anyone, neither anyone is gonna place bans trusting randoms "admins" (and amateur website like CBL) on the net.

Sometime i believe that 80% of guys here doesn't have a working brain.... Prvate hive = their own rules. That's completely fine and when you run your own server with your own hive you can do whatever you want to do, your server = your rules. But when you have a server networked (hence the consideration about the not-working brains) everything you do on "your" server is going to affect the gameplay on other networked (same hive) servers! So a well administred Vilayer server can be totally exploited by another (poor administred) server, imagine: i can do any sort of things on that server, including cheat, duping, hack, whatever and then migrate all that shit on a "good" server to annoy the ppl there. Having no rules on a (relative big) NETWORK, i repeat again for those half-working brains chaps: NETWORK <<<< that is different than a SINGLE SERVER, makes the network absolutely useless, in fact without a set of shared rules there's no reason to have a network at all, it's tons more convenient to setup YOUR server with YOUR HIVE. ...the "fun" part is that the players that should understand what i've wrote above are the same that doesn't turn on their brains.. so i've just wasted another 5 minutes of my life. :)

Vodka?

Definition of "admin" on certain servers: You can cheat without risking to being banne > http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/93124-lingor-uk-52-vilayer/

...and teleporter.. you would say that's normal, cheaters everywhere.. until you realize (nametags on) he is.. (da da) the admin! (name: Kaos) Hopes about the current situation was already under my shoes.. now it's even lower. Sry my 2 spare minutes are over.. ;)

I start to think im too old for the videogames...

That's where you'll find the smartest cheaters, those ones that have enough brain to not mass kill ppl on the server or teleporting, but that will use map exploits and blood regen in a way that is basically impossible (server side) to know if they are really cheating or extremely aware/good players. You'll play with the constant paranoia of playing against a cheater. Whitelisted servers is a solution only against the brainless kids, but you'll continue to play against a bunch of cheaters.

I'm curious, i believe the creator of this software is an active member of this community, yes i know there's lurkers .. but if you put some effort into coding an app like this, i expect you're someone with "some" posts.. so i come to the conclusion that the OP is an "alt" account. So here's my question: why the dev decided to post this under another nickname, instead of using his main account? Again: i'm not accusing of anything bad... since the source is public.. i'm just curious. :)

Exact.. but since the mod is full broken and fullfilled of cheaters you can only play it as a traditional FPS (there's no reason of doing anything else, since you're going to die by a cheater fastly..), then you'll realize that those other FPS are a way more fun and with a better gfx, so there's no much sense to play DayZ this way.. and you'll jump out. Ppl (including me) tought about a real innovation, and on the paper it have really much potential, but it still a potential (let's hope for the final product).. that's why the numbers initially were huge.. by the end of the year i suspect that we'll have very few chaps still playing this mod.

Ppl migrated on Lingor.. then Utes.. Takistan.. to find something "more" and have a new reason to continue to play, but unfortunately it didn't least long, the map is new but the game mechanic is the same (and so the number of cheaters). Atm the number of players is rapidly dropping everywhere.. official hive, not-official, chernarus.. or any other map. As said: ppl got bored fast.