Turk (DayZ)

Rocket With our details of server action being held for us (& others? - who?) to look up on a to be set up site / page, will we also be able to tell what the last server we were on? Many times I've forgotten or just simply didn't look when logging in (checking 2 version numbers, whether its Regular or Vet or? if 3rd is on aswell as if it has spaceetc its all to easy to over look the actual server name*. Would be great to check after logging off to continue on the same server especially with tents being fixed. * Also will or can there be a uniform system that lists servers attributes? its quite "messy" atm. That goes with current ArmA2 beta versions.

Yep whatever you do don't use these maps :P http://teamfackin.com/moocow/dayz/map/ or http://dayzmap.info/ or http://dayzhq.com/map/ I have all those open as they offer various options and are updated daily. Though I find this to be the best for quick glance. http://dayzdb.com/map#4.026.123

Has the zeds ability to knock you over with 1 tickle and "break your legs" been nerfed? If so it needs doing again. Also could it be changed to being scratched, slashed, Wounded & Badly Wounded. (or some other 4 tier names.) rather than scratched, slashed, broken arm, broken leg to:- Scratched = Loss of Blood. Slashed = Bleeding - requires Bandage. Wounded = Blood loss & Poor Aim - requires Painkillers. Badly Wounded = Blood loss & Knocked over, Unable to stand - requires Morphine. Breaking limbs is immersion eh breaking. As you can still climb ladders with a broke leg & taking morphine allows you to run. Keep the same mechanics of all 4 "wounds" ie being knocked over & having to crawl etc just change the term & associated icon & noise. Also Painkiller & (AND) Morphine?? Its 1 & the same thing, would it not be better to change painkillers to benzodiazepine. Painkillers atm stop the 1st person view shakes from a broke arm, so realy it seems more like nerves that are calmed. This could open up future uses for benzodiazepines re humanity and any other psychosomatic mechanic with possible addiction (such as Fallout3) same for morphine of course. Six Updater works very well but should you wish to try a different beta patch of ArmA2 it is extremely easy to swap. 1.Download whatever patch version of ArmA2 you want from here -> http://www.arma2.com/beta-patch.php/ 2.Then locate the "Beta" folder located in the Expansion folder. found in the same directory as the ARMA 2 Combined Operations.exe Here C:\Program Files\Bohemia Interactive\ArmA 2\Expansion (or in the Steam Commons folder which would look something like this C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Bohemia Interactive\ArmA 2\Expansion 3.Zip or rar that Beta folder (incase anything goes wrong.) & delete the folder. 4.Instal the patch. 5. Now nstead of using Six Launcher to start ArmA2 use Six Updater (as Updater requires a manual selection to update unlike Launcher which auto updates everything) so use Six Updater to launch the game from the usual method of right clicking the Green DayZ mod in the left hand list and selecting Launch Game not Update/Launch like you may have done. 6.Njoi. Just use SixUpdater for DayZ mod control.

They do exist, honest ;P but they look unusual. I found 2 in 10+ hours of play, they are fairly rare but no less so than anti tank or fences. Also they look like a pair of large (giant) false teeth (sharks.) fairly boxey looking (imagine a box with an arched top with alternate black & white triangles going up the side over the arch and back down, slightly smaller than a football., thats about as good a description i can give until you see them yourself and think no they look nothing like that :D )

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Well there you go, shows how often i don't altf4 if it dosen't work cos i didn't know that (obviously those who do are more likely to have attempted to use the exploit) - now can people put the pitchforks away, I am not the droid you are looking for. Iknow you want someone to burn at the stake but its not me, please remove me from your anti altf4 witch hunt campaign.

Yesh and kill their cat, key their car and put glass in their food. Reality check anyone? It is not a bannable "offence" (drama queens), it is an exploit that is being patch fixed. You maybe need some perspective. Heres something that you should be moaning about http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/34871-banned-from-de95-for-stealing-the-admins-heli/

now physical threats - truely a sign of a genius.

Wow you realy are determined to argue over nothing.Anyway I'll admit to trolling you. now stop as i have reported your verbal abuse. it needs to end now. btw sod off is on par with shut up these days.

CoD never played it, surely killing others for fun is the mark of a cod player? Ands as you obviously can not read (or refuse to and would rather talk smack about someone) it seems rather pointless continuing on this subject. I have stated 3 times now i alt f4'd once very recently, when there was little point in playing further due to a stale mate situation, yes i was pissed having helped someone to then be shot in the back (literally) by the gun i had given him & this & this alone was the reason for my mentioning it. Why the hell should I lie? Come to think of it why the hell am I bothering to proove myself to a ranting kid. Just get over your apparant need to argue with other people over such trivial matters. Only 1 person should be banned and thats you for such blatant abuse. Screaming "fuck off" & Calling someone a "dick" is not exactly the sign of a high iq now is it? Especially over something so pointlessly tediously miniscule in importance. LOL Ban away. As I am positive there is only 1 person so petty to consider a 1 time alt f4 "crime" i will say now my in game name is the same as here. ps isn't this a bug report thread?

I'd love to see weapon (& clothing etc) deteriorate rather than less ammo, so you either find parts or whole weapons and maintain them. A form of crafting basically. As well as being able to create better clothing (from quieter shoes to protective clothing both for warmth & dryness aswell as armor & effective camoflage). The ability to craft survival items such as splints for broken limbs or an alternative to lighting a fire by using a whisky bottles base or a lens from a pair of glasses (of couse can only be lit using the suns rays) Using the animals for more than food (twine & skins (leather). And plants (herbs) for infections etc. So many things could be done to enhance and extend the survival aspect, i'm sure its been thought of I just hope the arma engine dosen't restrict the potential of this game. Yes its "ok" for now but as we all know once you have your kit what else to do? Unfortunately that "what else" sems to end up in PvP, vehicles alone don't seem to be a large enough incentive for cooperation. Fortifying buildings (i don't mean only placing (badly due to armas current limitations/clunkyness) wire fence/tank deterants & bear traps), then a town and rebuildsing a society seems the logical progression, can the arma engine accomodate these ideas? And yep shooting a weapon should be the absolute last option so if a swarm comes rushing to every gun shot maybe player killing will be reconsidered if it truely were a life threatening decision for the murderer rather than a folie.

"like a mam" oh shut up LOLRe read thats basically what i did, we couldn't kill each other, it was stale mate. If he had popped his head up i would have shoot him and if i had tried to stand up, he'd shoot me, also how would i know who he was? I try and avoid servers that display your name when you mouse over a person - THAT is more a problem than alt f-yawning. As re the "in real life we'd all kill each other" statement all I can say is if we all had this merntality we' as a species would have never got out of the trees let alone made it to caves, friggin monkeys and apees can work this simple survival fact out i'm extremely suprised how stupid & selfish people become once hiding behind a keyboard & screen, this dissaociation should be known as suffering from cyber-psychosis or anti-cyber social psychosis, no doubt there is a diagnosis for it.

Idid it once when after giving a guy food, a pepsi and covered him whilst he searched a town, using most of my winchestr ammo i then gave him my makarov & 4 or 5 clips, we leve town and find a deer stand as i climb up he shoots me and i fall with legs, arms broke and bleeding inside the hut, he tries to kill me & can't i try to kill him and can't we stale mate for 5 minutes i then think what a tosser and alt f4 then respawn, and run back to the hut. Are you saying i should let this scum dance on my grave aswell as stab me in the back? i'd like to see what you'd do in a similar situation. This is the only time i have down this and it was very recent (my current char) so obviously i replied based on that, get over it its hardly kicking kittens/ eating babies is it. Raging away at someone you don't know and calling them names etc makes you seem childish. Alt f4ing or exploiting has little barring on someones age. Don't be foolish. Ok you can't loot someones stuff (that you don't need) how is that comparable to killing someone? It isn't and you are a fool for saying otherwise. You got your kill be happy you have ruined someone elses game for no reason. I can assure you it is far more annoying being killed for NO REASON. Now can we move on, Rocket says he has a fix, pity he hasn't put an alternative into the game to enable an action that gives credit to the word Bandit, but I guess the selfish vocal minoriety get what they want first. I personally don't care if the alt-f4 exploit is removed, a 10 second disconnect similar to mmo's seems a logical choice and yes it should be added but it won't stop me being pissed offf for being killed, i don't care for the items, as i've said i'd be happy if bandits could rob you either with a mechanism that stopped you moving as if knocked out or tied up until you break free (repeatedly pressing Left & Right for eg) maybe using something from a non lethal bear trap or a set time until your stuff has been stolen OR a non lethal tasser style weapon (or cosh?) - there should be penalties for murders (i assume the humanity recordings are going to be used eventually) but some kind of encouragement for bandits. As well as more encouragement for helping someone as obviously some players need to be policed as they have no remorse or come back over the internet (no doubt there is a psychollogical explanation for this action provided by the distancing of a keyboard & screen.) Anyway the word IS BANDIT not killer.

I think this maybe due to zombies spawning inside buildings without entrances they can see you through these. Happened a number of times where a zed seems to come from nowhere.

Wow someones butthurt - cry some more cos i'm gonna still alt f4. Lol "scoursge" and "fucking pussy" and you call me a kid? Anyway back down to earth. If there were a mechanic which allowed holding up someone then I'd be fine with that, until there is ALT F4 and enjoy seeing me sink away. I don't see killing people for no reason as a necessity in this game, and no, in a real life situation people would NOT shoot everyone left right and center, if that were the mentatility the human race would have never got out of the trees let alone made it to caves. Weird thing is i'm getting chomped out for being a considerate player not trying to ruin someone elses fun by killing them for no reason So whilst you stamp your feet moaning that you can't dance on the grave of someone maybe consider that you have just ruined someones enjoyment, that I think is far worse than being able to take a can of beans. I hardly see how this can ruin YOUR fun anyway near as much as killing someone who has invested hours upon hours of time into a character to die to some "should be playing call of duty" inconsiderate little shit. Funny thing is I have only altf4 once after giving a guy a makarov after when we searched a town together he had no weapon, I had a pm & winchester (we both spawned nearby). I protected him throughout the search using 50% of my ammo as he safely searched everywhere, once finished i dropped my pm on the floor with 5 or 6 clips, we left that town and found a deer hut, before that i dropped food & a pepsi for him, as I climb the deer hut he shoots at me repeatedly i end up with broke legs, arms & bleedig but i'm in the deer hut, he cant shoot me i cant shoot him, after sometime i think F*k him and alt-f4, re-log and go find my dead body and gear. You are telling me i should let this scum take my stuff as well? f right off! PvP HAS been talked about to death and obviously will always have those for & against, if i accept you killing me you accept you aren't getting a bean.

You need to delete the Beta folder in the Expansions folder then reapply the update you want. See page twelftysix of this thread, its mentioned there or http://dayzwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_install_DayZ

You said it was dark and you saw their flashlight in the other room!! You then decided to kill them, If i see someone I avoid them I don't decide to kill them in the hopes they may have something i want. Re read what you wrote before saying they had items you wanted, what bs, you could only tell what weapon they had and you say you had already had a quality gun. (aswell as NVG! nothing about "i saw he had blah blah i wanted it" more like "i saw his torch, i decided to kill him." If theres was an option to either knock him out or hold him up would you have taken that choice? (a safe option that guarenteed you could search through his stuff, take what you like and then leave with a gap of a set amount of time before he can follow. Would you rather "mug" someone or would you prefer to kill for the sake of "maybe he has some beans (as the supermarket obviousaly has none)"?? Anyway we disagree on 1 part of a game, no big deal, not much point continuing this is there?

Theres the difference WE DON'T KILL FOR THE SAKE OF IT, you do so you accept handing over your stuff. "DON'T FORCE YOUR PLAY STYLE ON OTHERS" you cry yet in the same sentance insist others should play as you. Alt f4 all day, deal with it. After all you are camping a supermarket with top notch weapons, you didn't need food or weapons in the 1st place. If you did I'd give them if you asked. You know like in the real world where we haven't been reduced to animals.

Miss the point much? Original point was people altf4 ing to prevent murderers looting your body. I say f'ck em, if they shot me i'll alt f4 all day long. But they aren't shooting you for items (food, weapons) when camping the f'ing supermarket full of food when they have a stanag or some other top weapon, they are just killing for kill count, zzz. If people were actually starving thats ok, thats within the spirit of the game. The suggestion was to not remove pvp but to give an alternative to thoose who actualy wanted to loot players without killing them. I'd happily hand over my gun, food, meds etc if i could survive, a form of being able to hold someone up would be extremely welcome imho. But i'm not ignorant to the fact theres a lot of bored people who find it fun to kill someone for the sake of it, I don't condone it but I agree it adds a huge cautious element to when entering the large towns. I'd like to be able to hunt someone, steal their stuff but not kill them. As it is i only shoot when shot at.

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I agree, if i get shot by a murderer (a bandit dosen't kill, he steals) then the last thing I want to do is happily give him my stuff, I instantly think "f you" i'm alt-f4 ing asap so you get sod all, a55hole. The funny thing is this murderer is in the f'ing supermarket! with a top notch weapon! he doesnot need the items,!! he's just being a friggin Call of Duty moron, he wants to loot bodies?? for what? more like wants to piss on the body and gloat. You got you "kill count" now pi55 off. All I can say is Sod off! I will Alt-F4 all day long and when thats removed I'll force quit someother way and if thats removed i'll pull the f'ing plug out the wall!!! :D Come on, you killed me, most likely for no reason, what the f do you expect? IF people ONLY killed others because they were starving etc then I'd say ok. This has been discussed to death, I've suggested that there be an actual "stand & deliver" mechanic, where you could hold someone up (similar to a bear trap but instead the victim can not shoot or escape until let free) maybe there could be an escape attempt mechanic where you bash away on Left/Right until the "rope" snaps but you risk being shot. At least that gives an option and I'd imagine would be a HELL of a lot more skillful to track someone down and sneak up on them to activate this hold up mech. The other deterant to cold blooded murder would be a "psycho" meter similar to the blood loss screen, it gets more black & white the more you kill, you regain colour when giving blood transfusions or similar. PvP should only be activated when a person has either the water or food icon flashing, this would add a false realistic necessity which a lot of idiots seem to lack. Of course many murders will butt clench and cry over this but fuck 'em, they ruin my fun.

You've missed the point and as re 5meters away you still can, the only zombie that notices you is the random "eagle eyed" one 100's of meters away. Before this sneaking was essential and any zed could become aggroed if you aggrovated them, not I have looted items on the floor that zeds were stood on !!! (think the shed in zeleno where the bike often spawns, if no bike 2 zeds spawn in there, so what just sneak up to them and loot away). Consider this when talking about zombies being able to see you because you can see them. Q. How do they know "what" you are at 100+ meters distance? They are zombies with sever mental deterioration, surely they'd get aggrovated by other zombies as well in that instance? You'd see them running left and right to attack each other in this scenario surely? Obviously that shouldn't be the case. They should become aggrovated when.... aggrovated - this is what triggers their base instincts, animal instincts. Just as a lion, tiger, bear, oh my, might see you from a distance but it won't blindly attack, it may investigate. It would most likely however attack when startled or aggrovated. This is what is wanted. Along with zombies investigating noise. Don't get me wrong, I want difficulty, I want to sneak around for hours (especially having spent too many running from town to town) as it used to be with zeds using hearing and as close to realistic aggro mechanics but there is little point if a zombie has a randomised chance of eagle eye aggro coupled with Line of Sight through minute gaps in terrain which you have no chance of seeing, you might as well abandond sneaking as it has now become a gamble. Why waste 30 minutes sneaking past nearby zombies to have 1 zoom in from accross a field that was through some bushes, maybe the opposite side of a building but caught a fraction of a second glimpse of you but you had absolutely no chance of seeing therefor no chance to avoid starteling it? Surely this is a broke mechanic?

eh Alpha :D

I agree, if the "old" style zeds were returned aswell as the current "eagle eyed" zed then yes as it would be impossible to run through a town as you'd have 30 rather than 3 or 4 running after you. I can only assume this "new" 'eagle eyed' zombie is a temporary thing / test.

Why? Have you played 1.7.2.3 patch at all? Zombies spot yo (radomly i migfht add as this is the current params) from a long distance away, there is NOTHING you can do about it, even prone and still if you are in their sights they WILL make a run for you, these "eagle eyed" zeds are often 100+ meters away when other zeds hardly bother. This has caused those who cant be bothered to spend 15 mintues stealthing to logically come to the conclusion you will be spotted "randomly" anyway so you just as well run everywhere and then cheese zombies (loose them by running through a building or round and round and round buildings) to then search the destination, rinse and repeat on the next town. No longer is it worth sneaking for hours, which was all the fun. You'd spend 20 mins running through a forest then 45min searching a town, a nice balance. Now its run run run, shoot a little run.(zzzzzzz) sneaking is pointless, yeah it can be done but why bother? Try it yourself, you'll see the game is kind of broke now. I and many other old & new players feel the same. We want hours of stealth (as it was, i too also would rarley shoot pre 1.7) with little to no shooting not DayZ - The Benny Hill Saga (cue benny hill theme.)