Its funny because people keep saying " i go into a forest at night time and its pitch black " well most of the time im not in the forest at all im running along a paved road or running around a town all of which is not covered by any trees. yet at night its 100% dark , its not even a game at that point its a black screen. So really your trying to compare a extremely dense real life forest to this game which has no extreme dense forest. Even in towns with big shinny refletive buildings , roads , cars and once again nothing over head the game is still 100% dark , its closer to being blind then some what dark. So in other words stop saying really dense forest is any thing like wide open refeltive buildings its just dumb.