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Weapons and balance are two words that shouldn't even come up in dayz. If the weapons worked exactly like their real life counterparts the game would be much better then the so called balancing could be done by adjusting the loot tables and spawn chances.

yea reddit is full of this crap :/

Yea they used to but now that is no longer the case. Most of the items the military procures are either through political means or simply given out to the lowest bidder who might not produce the best quality materials.

As a bandit I continue to kill on sight regardless of the zombie count or difficulty. Not sure why zombies would matter when it comes to kos.

Here is some food for though. Military contracts are awarded to the LOWEST BIDDER. Most of the time Civilian weapons are far more accurate, more reliable and better manufactured than military firearms. Take an Ar15 you can build a sub moa ar15 with a free floated barrel along with tons of ergonomic other upgrades that have been brought out due to a robust and prosperous civilian gun market. Meanwhile a standard issue m4 while a great weapon usually is not as high quality as a civilian ar15. Another such example is the precision rifle market world wide. Civilians for example have access to better quality components, optics and chassis/stocks compared to military sniper rifles. The single biggest improvement when it comes to precision firearms however is the quantity and quality of civilian match ammo it is miles ahead of what the military procures.

I hope. It bugs me so much to see mosins being bubbaed in the game. Communist mosins should remain authentic with their original features and the grand majority should be iron sights only.

I would wish the devs atleast the ones incharge of weapon handling would go out and fire the weapons they include in the game. Not just fire them though do testing on how the weapons group, handle and most importantly what accessories would easily mount on each weapon. They need to have a mosin in front of them and then realize how difficult and unpractical it would be to mount modern day optics and a bipod to the weapon. Unfortunately they might not have access to weapons as easily .

But it is. Range does not matter. at 100 yards the mosin will be just as inaccurate is it is at 1000 yards That 4 inch group at 100 yards turns into a 40 inch group at 1000 yards. BTW I am not saying all mosins are inaccurate, I would say 90 percent of them are the other 10 percent that are accurate are the bubbaed mosins that people buy for 100 dollars then spend 700 dollars glass bedding the stock, buying custom parts and gunsmithing it to take modern day optics, recrowning and refinishing the barrel.

A bone stock mosin is not an accurate weapon. The only reason it has gained so much praise world wide is because its reliable and more importantly it is super cheap and cheap to shoot. Mosins are not tact drivers give me a bone stock mosin and any modern manufactured akm. I can paint far smaller groups with the akm. Mosins are just inherently inaccurate, everything from the bad stock that causes pressure points on the barrel to the miss matched parts that is the case with 9/10 mosins you see where different parts from different mosins have been put together and they don't quite fit right. Even the surplus ammo you find contributes to the poor accuracy of mosins the steel cased ammo doesnt always fully expand inside the gun and you have extreme variances in muzzle velocity. Even with ammo in the same batch. A good mosin I mean a perfect pristine mosin would group 3 inches at 100 yards. Your average non modified stock mosin will paint much bigger groups 4-5 inch range at the same distance. I honestly do not understand where this myth of mosins being elite sniper rifles that can hit a dime at 1000 yards comes from. No self respecting Military would arm their troops with mosins. The mosin is a SHTF weapon a last resort rifle that fires cheap ammo and is reliable, you will never see any sane person wasting time and resources somehow bubbaing a mosin with a modern day scope that costs 20x the price of the gun and somehow jury rigging a modern day bipod into it. So please lets stop the false myth of mosins being elite precision rifles they simply arent.

Dayz simply would not be dayz without being on a bohemia interactive game. Dayz would be nothing if it werent for its long view distances, mil sim aspects and a world that reacts like real life does. Put dayz in any other non mil sim engine and you get well warz.

That might be the stupidest thing I have ever seen lol. 1600 dollars for a 12 gauge shotgun lol.

I am all for more military spec weapons in the game heck I am all for more explosives and emplaced weapons too like heavy machineguns or recoiless rifles. What I am not for is weapons especially military weapons that would make 0 sense. I don't wana see some obscure military rifle that no army uses like a Fn Scar. So long as they keep adding weapons that would probably be found in that environment I am happy. Biggest crime however is how the weapons have been added the accessories are unrealistically added and the weapon behavior is insanely unrealistic. So we are then left with retarded 100 year old rifles somehow converted into 1400m sniper rifles and new production m4s that cant hit the broad side of a barn.

I don't hate the rifle. It is just the truth. Go online and see what the average groupings are for people who shoot stock mosins with surplus ammo. Most are 4 inch groups + at 100 yards. This is probably because mosin ammo is so corrosive. Ruining the rifling. As far as the russian sniper remember the gun might have been accurate back in 1944 when it was re manufactured but in 2014 time has taken its toll on the weapon and the rifling is probably ruined and the crown cracked. Don't base ww2 reported (Soviet propaganda) with modern day proven accuracy. Meanwhile a high quality ak will group substantially smaller groups.

They should just make it as unforgiving and realistic as possible. Make the gunplay and ballistics as true to life as possible and those new players will adapt .

Hunting scope appears to be a fixed 12x power scope question now is if its gonna be a mildot scope that can be used to range targets or just another lame duplex scope. PKM + m249 = im a happy camper ONLY if they allow you to deploy the weapon like in ACE. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjKG-x0lIEE

Aks are quite accurate. Ak74s and ak 47s are more accurate than a mosin nagant . ak74 is around 2.5-3 moa Mosin - 4+ moa. meanwhile a civilian ar 15 can be sub moa military issue m4s are apparently around 2 moa.

What good are melee weapons if the zombie somehow still hits you after its dead due to the jank.

Zombie spawning is idiotic same bullshit that sucked in the mod. Whatever happened to having all of the zombies in the map spawn when the server respawns. But nope instead they reverted back to the stupid mod approach .

I almost see zombies as a gimmick now. I do not see a future where the zombies will ever be good or add anything to the game. I sorta wana see a mod that completely removes zombies and instead raises the player count since there is no strain from zombies and at the same time focuses on survival aspects and crafting. Zombies just seem like a waste of time to me atm.

Screw that. What we need is a mod that removes all the arcade bullshit and adds realistic ballistics, gunplay, wind, moa and mrad elevation adjustments, fixes the zoom on optics and removes the silly accessory dispersion mechanic.

That's why I said makeshift. Changing out the barrel for an appropriate 18 in barrel with the right 1:8 twist allows for stabilizing heavier bullets but thst shouldn't be a factor in this since there is only one type of bullet at the moment.

This community used to differ by consisting of mostly Arma veterans who loved mil Sims and realism in games along with the great pvp associated with it. People paid for the game and can diss or not diss the devs if they choose.

New players are more willing to accept bullshit gameplay mechanics and unrealistic gameplay.

The mod of course but for me it's mostly because the pvp is so much better.

Yea hopefully they look into it in the future. Would be nice to be able to make an make shift mk12 with a m4