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More depth and complexity = I approve.

Pretty much I don't understand how fixing the guns and pvp is not priority #1 atm.

My favorite throwing method in any arma game.

The actual view distance is quite nice in stand alone. The problem is the player/object render distance. What good is a 2km view distance if players and objects only render in at 800m.

or they could just have the attachments affect the way a gun handles and then do the exact same thing without going the arcade route. Bipod - attaches to objects or the ground and reduces sway dramatically. Magpul stock and handguard = lighter more maneuverable weapon that is overall easier to use. Magically making the weapon more accurate with plastic parts is not the way to go.

Read the op its very relevant. I am merely comparing the attachment system on both games and how they both take an unrealistic approach to it . How for example in both games adding an attachment such as a buttstock magically changes a weapons mechanical accuracy.

I am quite found of this version such a beautiful rifle. Affordable too.

Fine choice for a upcoming weapon. I am honestly saddened there is no talks of adding more bolt guns to the game. Game needs lots of hunting bolt guns, long range match bolt guns, and maybe even a scout rifle.

I never said they did not exist. All I am saying is how likely would it be to find such rails in Eastern Europe. It all comes down to probability for me. This isn't a means to balance anything its just common sense.

It all comes down to how likely something is . How likely is it to find a picatinny rail adapter for a mosin nagant in poor eastern europe ? Bear in mind this things are quite rare world wide.

If that were true the mosin would be dramatically less accurate .

True . The crappy surplus ammo is the main reason why mosins are so inaccurate.

Oblivion was fun the problem is that it was not as good as morrowind. Oblivion was what you would call console dumbed down for the idiotic masses.

It will do no such thing. People will always come back you know this. They will merely adapt.

That is the only thing that stand alone has over the mod sadly. PVP and everything else is much better in the mod.

Ok this will be my last post as I am done arguing over something so silly. 1. Just because norway issues rails with their g3s does not make it common , rails on a g3 are still obscure and extremely unlikely just look at any of the g3s that are actually being used and issued to troops throughout the world today most of them simply have irons. 2. Rails for the m4 make sense, assuming the US military occupied Chenarus this is just pure speculation judging by the humvee wrecks finding m4 accessories such as rails would make sense and would be plausible. 3. Who knows what the developers are interested when it comes to realism or not. If they are indeed not concerned with it then they should Bohemia Interactive has a mil sim pedigree and to go against that will only result in a worse game. 4. As far as the mk12 yea the mk17 will not be replacing it, the only reason the mk12 is so widely adopted is because of how easy it is to convert an m4 into an spr. The mk17 is not common or will ever be common in the military, it was merely a hyped weapon system of about 4 or 5 years ago that will fade away in history. Above all what I am trying to say is the things we see or pick up in the game have to be cohesive. They have to make sense otherwise it ruins immersion. Do you think it would make for a better experience if you find all this antique soviet era can opener right next to a fully kitted out g3 with rails up the wazoo and all of the latest gizmos. Of course not it would be jarring seeing something like that within the context of dayz. It is all about creating a consistent game and if they go with the current formula or follow the current recipe the fn fals and the g3s you encounter in the game will be the ones that you would most likely come across in eastern europe. There is something beautiful about a vanilla firearm.

yea the most common version of the firearm should be in the game. No railed fn fals, and g3.

You arent getting me. The VAST VAST VAST VAST VAST majority of g3s out there do not have rails or any attachment points for modern optics or accesories. This is why its not a common thing. Sure you can buy an obscure aftermarket kit to attach rails to a g3 or a fn fal but lets be honest there are kits like that for every weapon out there. One has to imagine how likely it would be to find a g3 in Eastern Europe, and when found what kind of a g3 variant would it be. More likely than not it would be a plain jane g3.

Yes in many weapons just not he fn fal or g3.

Cmon man there is no chance in hell those tacticool weapons would show up in Chenarus. A fn fal or a g3 with iron sights would be extremely likely. The mk12 is far more common than a mk17 or a mk48 or m14 ebrs.

Not giving it rails and attachments does not limit the weapons at all. You still have 20 rounds of 7.62 in a very accurate package. My main concern is keeping the game realistic and not giving them dumb accessories that would not work on the weapon.

Yea and guess what military issued fn fals and g3s from the 50s do not. Nothing wrong with the mk12 , the mk12 is just a unique firearm that is actively fielded in the US military and is quite common. Railed G3s and Railed tacticool fn fals are completely different. You won't find any railed fn fals outside of some posers tacticooled out civilian fn fal.

yea thats just what this game needs..... G3s and fn fals with tacticool rails and crap. I hope they just give us plain jane G3s and Fn fals and the only attachments that work with them are the ones that work in real life. Last thing we need to see is 1950s battle rifles with tacticool rails and acogs.... The irons will work just fine.

I am eager to try that.

Thats the thing the gun is not disconnected from your body. When you aim a gun you are nowhere near as rigid as you are in FPS. Free aim simulates how firing a real gun is , shooting a gun is a very fluid experience not a stiff thing like in 99 percent of fps.