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I was not aware those servers or mods existed for Dayz. I would assume that it would be boring not because of the lack of zombies but because of the lack of other gameplay mechanics to substitute zombies. The lack of survival systems to realistically prevent someone from sitting out in the cold and in the rain for hours without seeking shelter . The lack of an adequate health system in which you must eat, drink to meet your nutritional macros in order to not get any vitamin or mineral deficiency. Perhaps if these type of things were added to these zombieless servers people would have more fun.

Dude people have 1000m service rifle matches with 20 inch Iron sighted m16s. The goal is not simply to hit a paper target but to get a perfect score. Iron sights can hit much further than people think it requires skill sure but there is nothing inherently wrong with iron sights so long as the shooter has skill and good vision. Where optics help is in target identification they don't magically make a gun capable of long range shooting they merely help those with bad eyes identify targets. Also what I meant by wilderness is the lack of expansive forrests in the north nothing to do with animals. Alot of the forrests has been removed for new cities this tends to make the map feel much smaller even if it is the same size. Also that m16 does allow you to add accessories just like most of the weapon mods in arma 3 do. People really do not give Iron Sights enough credit, people are obsessed with mounting tacticool optics on every daam thing. Everything in Arma 3 is better than stand alone. Everything from the shooting and actual movement and stance system to the game engine.

I am actually quite surprised at how many people here dislike zombies. I was half expecting I would get flamed for having such a controversial opinion on zombies. Yet most of the people in the thread despise zombies and rather they not be there. Perhaps Dayz should have a 3rd option for servers once private hives are in. A no zombie feature that will probably give people a better frame rate too.

It is amazing how much better chenarus looks in the Arma 3 engine. <snip Importing DAYZ into A3 is against T&C's> The biggest improvement I think with the arma 3 engine is how it demonstrates distance. You really get a sense of distance and scale in Arma 3 that you do not get in Stand alone . That red house to the right is 600m away it looks so far away as it should. Everything in stand alone appears squished and up close 100m looks like 30m, 600m looks like 200m. Stand alone does a real bad job at demonstrating distance the vastness of terrain. Also take a look at that sweet m16 model , the arma modding community is amazing I love how they can just crank out high quality gun models . The model is beautiful but not only that the Irons on it are functional as they should be, Shooting 600m with irons is doable because of the weapon models excellent quality.

If you played stand alone and then jump to the mod it will be a little like this. Stand Alone is that big nasty chick that is so clunky and out of shape that you are wiling to try the opposite sex.

That is the thing what is a sniper rifle exactly ? I hate the term sniper rifle simply because it is dishonest. Just about any rifle can be a sniper rifle if it is used in a "snipers" hands. A better term would be precision rifle. Also making ammo rare or hunting rifles rare will do nothing to curve sniping. The only thing that will is complex shooting mechanics that mirror real life , the more true to life sniping is in dayz the less people that will participate in it and be successful.

That is because of 2 things. 1. The insanely stupid sprint speed of 15 mph. 2. Lack of Wilderness.

Then you would have people who try to run this on a overclocked potato complaining.

The PS2 engine is not crap. It has huge huge draw distances, can handle insane player counts and gargantuan maps, and it looks daam pretty.

Yes it still is. Dayz mod mods are way better than stand alone is atm so enjoy that.

Well I got an awesome name for it. Pandemic

While we are at it lets add this too guyz. :D

Rifles far outnumber pistols in most of the world. FAR FAR FAR outnumber.

There should an animation for everything in this game from getting in and out of a vehicle to accessing your backpack. Swapping weapon sights should require one too.

Well wind is going to be added. However the question now is how deep of a mechanic do the devs want to make sniping. Do they want a deep and amazing long range sniping mechanic in the game that not only enhances and makes PVP sniping challenging but also enhances hunting ? Or will they just keep the same crappy vanilla elevation adjustments + some slight wind. I really hope they go for a complex and complicated sniping mechanic that mirrors real life one that will have dedicated snipers making range dope sheets and having these at their side to reference them. Or even wearing them if they are nutty enough.

He is asking about those super expensive redicolous sights that have a red dot sight above a magnified optic. MSRP of 3k dollars but lucky for you it is on sale for 2300...... It's crazy how acog can get away with charging so much for mediocre glass.

People realize that zombies are detrimental to the game. Atleast for what could have been an amazing outdoor survival game that was devoid of tacky elements. That being said I am sure a mod somewhere will pick it up and run with that idea if not a game is bound to be made where the environment is the main opponent and the real fear and terror in the game comes from being far from your home and shelter and being afraid to not make it back before sun down and instead having to face hypothermia. The real fear should be the environment and other people aka the cannibalistic, murderous, and untrustworthy people that are sure to populate the game but they themselves are trying to survive just like you. That being said I actually have alot of faith in the devs over at Bohemia heck I have been playing their games since I was a lil kid making bullcrap missions in Operation flashpoint 1 powering that up on a Riva Tnt 2 , 32 mb card. I have faith eventually Dayz's zombies will have some role in the game a role that is not them being there simply to provide the player with annoyance.

you know its the truth . And I was earlier

TLdr = zombies don't add anything.

Not the same thing. The number of range finders in civilian and hunters hands far far far far outnumber the number of nvgs civilians own. Good example of what can be found they are not expensive they are not the huge 3000+ dollar military ones. These range finders are pretty accurate up to around 1200 yards.

Not right now its not. right now sniping is entirely too easy any idiot can snipe. The lack of wind + the cheezy 100 m elevation adjustments = easy mode sniping.

We really shouldn't but it would be nice to not hear them whine. Would be nice to have a system where it required skill so they would of course be slightly mad but quickly realize they got outplayed and the person used skill.

Zombies are not bad for the game because they are glitchy atleast not for me. They are bad because they are zombies . They are bad because they have been done to death in soo many games over so many years, it turns dayz into yet another zombie game instead of a post apocalyptic survival game that could have been a breath of fresh air. Once modding is added someone is bound to do that.

I predict Arma 2 animals. aka static objects that occasionally move 3 or 4 feet in one direction and are completely ignorant of explosions or players nearby.

I doubt it will ever come even close to real life hunting. There will be no stalk there will be having to travel and stalk with the wind to your face, no having the animal catch wind of you and then jetting off like a crazy. Hunting in dayz will just be random food sources in the woods that walk around not giving a shit that you are there. Thats all it will be. Just food in the woods.