Zeppa

http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/98237-spawn-in-groups/page__st__20 Some people just dont understand how this would work. 0=ZERO advantages, multible disadvantages for people that choose to spawn as a group. Think for a while... plaaah.

This would never work, coast will become meatgrinder again when you can have fun killing freshpawn and get their USEFULL gear. Sorry, but I think this is shitty idea. Only class/skill system I see fit is something that can be "learned" no item based shit, just something like from fallout. That is open for EVERYONE.. This would make lives themselves more valueable, not the items. Other idea that is remotely like OPs suggestion is that random inventory at spawn, few items that can spawn with you. No one coudnt know what items are you possisessing, but then again it could be bandit lottery... and that just fun.

OPs song sounds like from l4d2

And how can you know if you killed him or someone in your group(no debug shit or kill message)... what if the firefight lasts longer? Bad idea, wont work... and those who kill for fun wont care if they get bad humanity, hell they may even like it.

Apache made me laugh again, thans for a new sig line :D

How about surround headset? :D Rocket have mentioned this in some interview, just implement it... not a big deal if its disabled at default, so anyone who needs it can use it.

lol, how would it make it easyer... for the other people to shoot your ass? When you spawn in group you will be badly geared for longer time, than if you would spawn alone and both of you can loot their own towns and get better gear and then meet up... that makes pvp easyer. Its always harder when you have more mouths to feed. It would make pvp a little harder or wont change it at all. exsample 2 parties. Group1: 2 people spawn in differend cities loot them get ok gear when there is much more items for that "group", after that they meet up and go "pvp" with ok gear. Lets say P1 finds enfield and can of beans, P2 find makarov and soda. thats their gear when they met up Group2: 2 people spawn togerther and loot the city, they find same gear as the 1 person of group 1, and they have to split everything between 2 persons so they are half as geared. Same scenario this party will have eighter enfield + bens OR makarov + soda... easyer pvp with less guns and suplies?

I think your char has not spawn yet to the server when you are stuck at loading? And there is some slow communication about spawnlocation between hive and server, because of that you spawnpoint gets reseted. So this woudnt help that coast spawn problem? But regardless of that I would prefer the loadings happen and then propt me to spawn or cancel, would be better for everyone so you dont have to sit front of you pc waiting 30 minutes. Or wait 5 and think its going to take 4ever and leave to eat etc while waiting and you spawn after you leave the room... you come back and find your self dead..

Survive? :D

Arma engine is designed to be used in "closed" enviroment as a simulator, so there was no threat about hackers on that task that is was ment to do. As the "commander" had to be able modify mission when it was running, change equipments and shit. Now when it came huge online game these holes and trusting engine is being abused easyly with scripts. As standalone comes the code is changed not to allow simple scripts through client. That is why the scriptkiddies will not be in standalone, but the REAL hackers will always be present, maybe not in few weeks or even months... but they will at somepoint when they learn the engine.

Sum it up.. you have completelly misunderstood the idea. Read again. No one have suggested that you would be able to spawn ON TO someone or even near. ONLY NEWSPAWNS can spawn as a group at the coast, if you die you WOUDNT BE able to spawn on someone that is alive. So exsample you FIRST spawn EVER, when standalone comes out, you could start with a friend OR when you BOTH DIE you could spawn together again. if only OTHER one of you dies, you WILL spawn ALONE. comprende?

Really? The engine will be modified not to be so "hackable", rocket have said the code have been already implemented...so no, it wont be hackfest at this scale... every game will have always hackers, you cant get rid off them never.

I wanna see someone open a REAL safe with crowbar...lol

Some people never learn...

*sarcasm...

Those peripheral dots must be removed, so retarted system for multiplayer.... those can.. and are being abused so bad. Just make screen edge flash red for indicator, very light faded red tint and it fades away in half a sec or so. Flash could be stronger depending how close the shot is.

The book is "world war z", and where did you get the info that its from it? Because its has "war z" in its name? With the same argument it could be more about dayz, as its warz, lol. Can you link reference? may be bad googling skill but didnt find any with fast search. What comes to the "trailers" most games have actual, real gameplay footage... exsample bf3, cod and list goes on. These are not "staged" as in warz what we have seen but real "match"/mission, players may be from dev team but shit is not staged. Sure there could some specific features with staged videos to get right info about them.. this can be fought for ever, but you cant say all trailer or even most of them are "staged". Or maybe they are just so good that you wont notice it, but then again who cares ofc they will be made to bring out the best of the game... why didnt warz do that? :D What comes to the pricing I agree, only difference is that dayz will not be pay2win game with these premium 70usd puchase options.. maybe some collectors back that Rocket have said but pricing is unknown. Where is the point of "first zombie SURVIVAL" game if you can buy all shit from store with your moms creditcard to survive? nowhere... Alpha is cheap discounted~20usd? and "final" release is more expencive, but how much is unkown. As said, time will show what is going to happen 15th when we get gameplay footage from warz? Everyone is acting on "evidence" that is present atm, its understandable and everyone is entitled to their opinnions based on them. If you wanna waste your money now to warz, do it... if you wanna wait and waste it to dayz standalone... do it.

So how about making players play as zeds and AI arma bots try to kill them... "almost" the same?

Again you delete your thread, woudnt it be better NOT TO post them in the first place... ever tought about that?

And.... will work only server that has waypoint enabled...

Well thats the point.. if scavenging alone get group better geared why would it be bad to spawn as a group and get "less" geared and more lives to loose. But again you cant really test this in mod, this is affected by lots of things like zed behaviour... which gonna be ALOT differend in SA(I hope) and there for differend balance.. But again, most of the people woudnt be alone at the "start" if shit would hit the fan so would be some what authentic. By these post it seems that spawning as a group is only a bad thing so It could be an option.. mostly people are agains stuff that gives you unfair advantage in this case it would be quite the opposite...

And how? I dont get when people just say "no" or "I dont like it"... without any reasoning.

Every at least decent mobo has at least 4 point surround sound... so that is not a problem,well I dont know what kind of shit they sell there ^^ Here even the cheapest mobo has surround sound through provided drivers/software settings, if there is no specific connections for rear etc speakers others can be configured(realtek exsample). Maybe the arma has some clitches... I dunno, Im playing with speakers surround sound and works great. And sparate channel for teamspeak through headset. Something like this could be somehow implemented, speacially if people with deafness are playing. But as default it should be off and not give unfair advantagess when used.

If they are implementing the group function in SA... that could be used. Maybe ingame friendlist etc to make party and then just join with party? If you know the system bf3 uses, something like that. or just in server lobby, make group and spawn. If everyone is dead or newspawns they will be spawned at same loc, if anyone is alive he will spawn last saved loc and newspawn at somewhere else with each other.

Everyone bump this thread with all costs!