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You dont have to shoot anything if you dont want to :D

Or it wont change at all, you still can you shoot and not loot... like alot cases are now. That the equipment and consumables are more rare makes the differend when you dont have 20 mags for DMR for camping at elektro hill. And the closequarters combat will be more rare as you wanna keep your unique character and equipment.

It looks awesome, some pictures reminds me of fallout 2. Keep up the good work!

I think you guys are exaggerating things here, few inches... really? This also can lead to warz syndrome = Over selling, under delivering.

soon...

Thats like asking if you should get certain babysitter for your kids, when you present 2 people that seems good. Someone points out that another is pedophile and there is lots of info about it but you dont care because he has better CV(made up one) and has cheaper price? You said on certain points that things can be proven bullcr*p, so I assume that you mean things that float all around the topic. I dont care to start explaining what is and what not, when you can do the quick search for your self. If you are not willing to then fine, but you brought up that they can be proven "wrong" so you might wanna do that..

Really felt like I had to respond. (wall of text) Really felt like I had to respond, neighter I have intention to offend you or anyone here, I just tryed to make a point why its not adviced to buy the game. Everyone has their own "merits" how they chose a game, I wont support game which have untrusted lying devs.. regardless how good the gameplay is. Just tryed to save your money, sorry. If its the gameplay that matters then, both games have flaws... arma has less, that should be clear even from the youtube videos. Well there are alot of things(what you consider "bullcr*p" and they are proven), whether its about the game it self or the devs behind it... those are provided mostly by the devs themselves through lying and changing their statements after wards. The engine statement comes mostly from reading, its used on the other game that is arena shooter called war inc, like the warz is... also the some of the evidence is in the warz also (world is scaled huge compared to the characters so that it would look bigger). Sure they can change the engine, but its gonna take time. They have said things all the way from the start, empty promises that very few have been filled. That is why its not going very far anymore. Yes "copycat team", which is this: http://warzemulator.com/ :D The devs doesnt deserve to be talked politely about, they have done it to themselves, its sad but its true... the main problem is people will continue swallowing the cr*p that they feed after they make some "apology". These are my opionnions based on the information and proof around the whole warz topic, feel free to think different.. just tought to let you know what kind of devs they are. If you are new to this debate around dayz/warz, then you should really read more.. more than just watch those gameplay videos to get the whole picture, feel free to prove the "bullcr*ap" false on the warz general discussion 2 thread, Im glad if you can and I will take back my words. Or if the devs will really make everything right, I will accept I was wrong. But in any case, if it is not necessary for you to know all the other shit that is around the game, but just the gameplay I can respect that, no further rant about the things around the game.

Dont do it (buy warz)... Im gonna be straight. Warz devs arent going to fix anything, at least on the large scale. Devs have adressed alot of things, 99% is lies and crap talk. Even as a mod dayz is still 100 times better that warz. I dont see how you could have looked in to things and still consider buying the game? I have been follow the shitstorm from the start and seen it, like many others here. Im not talking as a dayz "fanboy" here and I really cant understand what "advantages" warz could have when its limited from the core(engine), speacially with the incompetent devs. There is somekind of copycat team that has started their own warz development, but If I have understood correctly Its closed from the "public", even they are doing better job than the founders of the game.. makes you think. Arma 2 is worth the 30usd even alone + lots and lots of mods for it... with warz you get buggy bad excuse for a game with asshole devs. But this aint really a place to discuss that, excuse me but Im trying to save someones money for something better. So I suggest you to do your research again.. not only gameplay videos.

Well it never gets so dark as its in arma2. That arma3 video is already 100 times better than what its in arma2, I hope the brightness doesnt change by the direction you are looking at. What is in that video could be cloudy night, and somewhat brighter when there is a moon light. That is the most annoying thing in present lighting system, it gets so stupidly dark when you just turn 90 decs... doesnt matter if you are in foreset or a field.

I agree... its useless to test with people that JUST want to play. Like most of us that are hyping and screaming it to be released... these are most likely the ones that wont bother to "notice" or register the possible bugs, but just play the game. Person that just want to play will most likely to come across most of the bugs that will matter most for the gaming experience but wont bother to do anything about it. Then the "testers" will most likely test "less" relevant stuff that could be fixed later that doesnt inflict the casual gameplay "so much".. I have not been part of game "testing" but cant avoid it at work... It could be good if they would test it with gamers that are now involved with the mod development, and other that have contributed the new content like good maps, modding etc within arma2. Also people from their own development that knows how the stuff works and people that really has time to play it..

Really? I think all hunting rifles have much more range than that.

About the "child models". It doesnt matter if its cats or dogs... men, women... there is always someone that could pull can of beans in their nose about it. Which makes me wonder, could there be wild cats/dogs to hunt to eat... something for PETA to start bitching about? It will never stop, always someone will cry no matter what. Just call them little men(not midgets) and make them looks like children, so only some male rights organisation could start hyperventilating about it. So now someone is violating mens rights when they say they are children, when they look like one? Please for love of god stop this bs, same goes with the recent or non recent shootings they have happened all around the world, not only in US and most likely something will happen again. You cant release shit never if you start thinking and waiting everyones mentality and how its WROOOOOOOOOOOOONG in many ways.. please, devs make it good... dont make its all fluffy and cuddly.

*Hugs rocket with tears in his eyes and whispers the two words" You realize that you are going to buy the full game with alpha access right? Some people paid much more for certain "game" within last few months.. I think 24usd is fair enough. Some people will bitch even if was free and it had bugs.

"if I buy arma2, will I get dayz SA for free"...

This is good exsample, you can see how overwhelming it can be if you try to DO IT RIGHT. Opposite exsample is warz, its all roses, rainbows and unicorn there for the "master mind" when you sweep everything under the carpet, do not deal with it and do not really care about it. Its just shows that rocket has a spine, he just not some snake like at least one other developer. After those words from rocket I would lock this thread and let the whole thing cool down. News will come when the time comes. I can only imagine how annoying and frustrating it is when retards like us are banging on the every window and door to get something out of him. Leave it be for now.

You guys know what, these last few pages made my brain melt...totally.. melt. Everyone just shouting "I WANNA PLAY, TAKE MY MONEY, FAST STANDALONE RELEASE FAST MONEY NOW" and so on. ..yes, we all are waiting for it, but it wont come any faster with that mindless screaming and yelling... so please. stop.

That AA medical clip, Thats just like in arma now? Just a line of text "bandage wounds", then you could use "study body" to get that "shallow breathing" for symptoms... Dont know what kind of stuff rocket has planned... but anyway that just reshaped arma2 menu system. Something more innovative for aplying stuff than just menus would be nice.

Just at interest, WHY does people need to know exact date?

Those sources are "bs"... you know how "press" promotes their posts with shit headliners like that... When rocket said he is ready to postpone the release IF things aint as they should before end of this year. Then sites makes headlines like that and twists the words to make it more "interesting" and "dramatic", when you take the line out of context it has whone differend meaning. Best place for your info is the dev blog of rockets. http://dayzdev.tumblr.com/post/36771692833/dev-report-november-2012 So there its still due before the end of the year 2012, nothing has changed but it COULD change.

I think never, would be coding nightmare.

Some sort of skill should be implemented like learn from books(fallout exsample) and gain experience tough doing... no stupid classes or anything, everything should be open for everyone so you could do what you want. No spesific equipment for spesific people, everything is possible to do as you want. And no skills that you can magically learn when you reach certain experience... But it is a fact that something has to be done to increase the value of character life, not just the items.

Tears of whiners is delicious, from those who are bitching it being removed. BAPBAP: You stated that you have no problem it being removed, yet still you keep bitching about it? And still scared of those ghillie snipers, just play few days without your thermal and you will see that it aint that hard, you had good squad.. right? Yet it still seems to be unclear to you that, again its not the duping or anything that effects its specs. It being rare it still doesnt change its specs, only your behaviour. Even if you woudnt engage fight, you would see people from miles way lighting up like suns. Without thermal there could have been fair encounter and you may have died... Its still redicilous gun, you are just too keen to it to realize that. ps. I think this thread has served its purpose anyway now, lock?

lol, this thing has nothing to do with duping. Its whole thing on its own and should be dealth elsewhere. Duping doesnt change the gun being overpowered from its specs. You are just picking unrelated side notes to keep babbling. You just god served by NoyZ

Steam is easy and good service, when it was released it was sluggish and sometimes pain in the ass, same as origin was(now you dont even notice with bf3). But I agree, the amount of shit you have to install on your computer besides the games comes more annoying year by year, few games and you have to have like 5 differend apps that you can play those..when you forget to deselect few options when installing you will get 10 differend searchbars, home pages and shit for you browser :D