It seems there are not many people who have played EVE online on these forums. I'm sure many if not all of you guys have heard of Pandemic Legion. Well they are a PVP Alliance in EVE and one of the better organised ones, one of the groups that think up new ways of killing people. The thing is, the more tears being shed about "mindless PVP" on this board the more successfull "COD Kiddies" actually are. Your fun being ruined is one of the things that gives them motivation. I find it weird that people say that this kind of behaviour is easy mode. You need to be pretty well organized to stave off the Zombies repeatedly spawning in droves as well as killing players. The lone wolf won't make it at the coast and he will have a hard time up North as well. Face it, this is a survival game and if this were the real world it would be nigh impossible to survive by yourself. Group up, get organized. METAGAME this Mod. Go with a buddy on vanilla arma and scout out the map for vantage points. Start putting in work, this is not a AAA game meant for all audiences with a 2 hour tutorial that explains how you walk. Try to get into the group that keeps camping your favorite loot spot only to betray them with your friends when the time is right. To take EVE online as an example again, the most successfull alliances in that game are the ones playing dirty, the ones that don't care about ~~honoure~~. I know people from this game that do nothing but scam, spy and metagame all day. If you want to be successfull then try ruining their experience. If you wanna just run around eating beans and drinking coke with your 10 day old character that RPs a hermit then that's fine but don't expect the game to be created solely around this experience.