Greetings all, First off all i am not english and i am not the english dictionairy so aslong as you can understand what i am trying say, send your grammer lessons to my inbox. so if you realy want to help and not just troll or beeing a smartass because i wasnt clear, please feel free to retype this all and send it to this forums inbox of my and i will edit your correct version with a reffer to you as thanks and remove/edit this original post. as we all know hackers are a hugh problem these days and our server gets hacked about 5 times every day. (sometimes upto 20 times a day) To get this hacks fixed the dev's need time, but in the main time there is no point of playing the game, because you will lose it all anyway in a unfair way, so it kills the game. Losing items because of someone camping cherno the whole day is part of the game and i like the fear feeling of the possibility of geting shot. (i am not loot crazy.) But the fear of beeing teleported to dead isnt the same..... thats just lame and breaks everything realistic about the game. isnt that what makes the game so awsome. Thats why the admins should be able to ban those hackers that are clearly hacking. But there are downsides to this for example admins feeling godlike and start to act that way. So the only way i can think of to have everyone happy is to make admins be able to ban but it reports the ban automaticly with the log from that person to HIVE. Dev's will look into that ban and chooce if that person stays banned or was banned for no reason and gets unbanned. in addition the server admin will get warned for it. 3 warings means a ban for the admin. This way its just like the real life judge system. Admins are the Cops and the Dev's are the Judges. if a cop punnish you for no reason that cop will get a slap on the wrist or even lose his job. if the cop was correct he simply did his job correctly and the bad guy will stay in prison. Because the admins cant abuse there powers they cant make there own rules, and because a dev checks it its 100% legit. so the downside could be that your banned for some days and get unbanned if you didnt hack. but its way better then playing with hackers and besides that the admin will get 1 out of 3 warnings so because of your temp ban he would think twice befor he bans the next guy. there should also be a limited amout off bans untill a dev have checked your current bans to avoid mass banwave's by a trolling admins. (who will get banned himself) This way hackers wont hack in the numbers they do now because they feel untouched atm, on the other hand there are also people hacking the hackers now and that will increase realy fast if we dont act NOW! we need a official response as a Warning to all hackers. if you hack after that date the admin can ban you. Trust me you wont see any hackers at all anymore in 2 week time. Simply because they have something to lose..... and that treath is 24/7 because the some admins will let other clan members calling them awake just to ban a script kiddy. atleast i will for sure. i would challenge any hacker to hack in my server. just come and get your ban.. wouldnt it be awsome to be able to say those things on the hacking forums... Like ''Guys come US1 always sleeping admin you can freely hack there. your welcome'' and then wenn they do come and start hacking you will hear my evil voice on the server = YOU JUST GOT OWNED MUHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA. and click ban sadly its still just a wish i could say that and troll them back.. For the admins without basic scripting knowledge ect i could make a topic on how to spot hackers but i would preffer a dev to do this because there is no reason why people should trust me and the topic will be full of replys ''no this isnt correct because'' or whatever excuse the hackers will come up with. Thanks for reading this wall off text i hope you understood it all and didnt get lost in the middle if not feel free to ask me anything related to this subject. I got many experiance as admin and i am a decent scripter/programmer. ( i learned everything myself so i am not a prof) Greets Mike

aaa lol xD OP download steam go to add a non steam game, add your cd key there and the game will automaticly install correctly and will always be uptodate. with other words its retard friendly (no offence)

then why post in the server topic and if you didnt know you have to install it on the server aswell offc so i still think he is trying to setup a server

Guys he should be able to think for himself if he wants to be a admin. if you cant instal a server with all the guides out there you arnt made to be a admin period. to google it for you then = http://community.bistudio.com/wiki/ArmA:_Dedicated_Server

you know there is a thing called google.

ooooooh HFB is a provider not high frecuancy bandwith xD it already didnt realy made sence to me.

A comunitie day z guy told me it was already optimized and patched by BI in on of the latest client update. But yes it still cause more stress on the server band offcourse because of how it works. doesnt mean you shouldnt turn it on to prevent those tree ect exploits.

Thats because those checksums eats connection and you basicly let it test 3 times now i belive. Just only do this = verifySignatures = 2; because it checks all those things already. What you could also do is verifySignatures = 1 and then also your script. having verifySignatures = 2 and the script is kinda pointless. If you realy want to help reverse engineer the Exe then remove the script abilitys of the game then make it work without bugging :P and rechecksum your new exe to match the old one. then give that to rocket and let him publish it. This is basicly the way hackers hack any ''unhackable'' game but then the other way around. if its hackable they dont have to be this proff and simply bypass things the easy way without having to change it in the exe. (like remove some battleeye strings to bypass it.) ps, it would be easyer to just start fresh sinds a game this side is almost impossible to debug especialy wenn you rechecksumed it. (that adds random letters ect to make the value pass the checksum again but in the main time absolutly making the exe useless xD so you would have to debug it again and again...

People first of all read my post first befor stating things like no this cant work because admins will ban people for no reason.. If you have readed my post you would have read my counter messurment.... Besides this WE CANT BAN PEOPLE!!! i dont know were you guys get that idea. its not allowed even iff its a hacker. we can only kick and kick and kick untill they are so bored they dont try it again.... And yes admins do look into the logs but do you guys know how it looks? if you dont then dont reply.... and tremu1tant is right i mostly find hackers in the DB because off people reporting it to me with a time so i can actualy find it in the hugh wall off text. its not like we look at the log and we see = HACKER LOGGED IN NAMED XXXXX or HACK SCRIPT ACTIVE whatever.. we realy need to search for it and if you dont want to read code's for hours and hours you basicly need those reports. Its us as comunitie vs hackers. not just admins or dev's. Like i stated befor its like real life situation. Someone will call the police (the admin) the police will come and investigate the police will put you in jail wenn they find evidence. the judge (the dev's) will decide howlong your punishment will be and if the evidence the cop gave was acurate. Iff the judge decided the police was wrong then he will get warned/noted he should get his act striaght or can look for another job.... I realy cant explain it any more retard friendly to be honnest.... Ps. ilikenoobies remember the time and give that to the admin (it has to be his time/server time) and he will help you get evidence against them. (atleast a decent admin.)

yep and all the admins wanna do is speed up that progress sinds it kills our servers and it kills our will to keep playing. Thats what those hackers want so we want revange on them for fking up our server and fun everytime....

There is a edit bug here. seems like you cant edit a comment and then edit a quote to it later or it will post the old one first and then open a new one with only that quote.

dude what game are you playing xD and your basicly acepting hackers on our server because you found a server they havnt hit yet xD and whats more important then not letting the game die besides that the devs need to look throug the whole db to find hackers instat off a new file were admins (mostly grown up and smart persons) do the worst part for them. I was admin and i had GMs a gm could ban and i checked in the database if it was a correct ban if not that gm wouldnt stay gm for long... You have absolutly no idea how its like to try and fight it solo. i am sure that i wouldnt be able to have succes with my MMORPG if it wasnt for those guys helping me out. i had 10 gm's for about 200 active dayly people. this games has 500k or something... Belive me they need us. if you dont just try to type plain text and get about 10gb's (or even 10tb's i realy have no clue of the scale of the server besides that its hugh) and then try and find hacks in it... i will see your result in about 50 years. what they will do with all those reports is they make a program that is linked to that ban file so for example= they click Next the program translate the script to a easy to see a hacker and then they just click next iff its correct or unban. You can do many ban report a hour this way and would actualy make there life easy. I think this how they try to ban people now. They look on the forum they see a report they open the DB and search for what that hacker.... this is very time consuming sinds its always easyer if someone els already tells you were to look..

read it again mate that admin will get banned himself for a false ban like i discribed. Besides that admins always had the right to ban people in other games. (besides CoD mw 2 and 3 i belive but you arnt realy admin there.)

Well thanks mate i am dutch so my english cant be realy poor but there are allot of people complaining about it so its more a disclaimer. i looked for one but couldnt find it so i started this one with my vision on how it should be cant harm to have to many of these topics anyway.

Yep i mean global because they will just go to the next server and fk that one up aswell. and as far as i know even a normal ban isnt allowed.. only a kick

i can feel your frustration but dont let them win mate be mature and let those immature hack untill they finaly get banned. and yes i have to agree it takes to long for those people to get banned but i am sure they got there reasons for it.

Greetings, As we all know from other games iff you miss a file or edit a file the game will crash wenn you try to start it up. Thats the checksum inside the .exe that checks iff all files are legit. (basicly) pls dont only let it check on start up, because then all they have to do is start the game first then added files. Do it wenn they are in the server aswell and let it report the the things that didnt pass the checksum and temp ban that person. Then look at it yourself and iff it is a hack script perm ban iff its not remove the Temp ban and tell that person your sorry. As the game is now i dont think any off use would mind a temp ban.. (and those people are mostlikely using No tree's bugs ect.) In this game you can remove edit almost all you want and as long as it is correct codes it works.... Thats just stupid and i realy dont get it. Its one off the oldest tricks to keep out the noob hackers / exploiters.. Add this to the .exe and all the script kiddies wont be able to hack because those scripts will prevent the game from starting up or will crash. Means that a real hacker has to reverse engineer the .exe to get the checksum correct after changing files. This reverse enginering is realy dificult and time consuming and you could change it every patch just to mess with them.. Are they starting to hack in high numbers again = change checksum and the kiddys will whine on the hacking forums it doesnt work my game crashes everytime i try to run the script. Also keep an eye out on CE updates sinds CE bypasses battleeye for a realy long time now and thats pretty rediculas for a anti cheat. CE is so easy to track down.... i dont get this... any other game with for example punkbuster would have banned you already iff you would try to do it the noob way it is done now... You cant stop the hacking but atleast remove those god damn script kiddys that simply download and hack just for the lolz... i dont mind some hackers in a comunitie simply because you cant stop a real hacker but atm its just rediculas with those script kiddys... Make it hard like other games so only the real hackers can hack or the people buying the hack from that real hacker. Just like any other online multiplayer you wont even notice the hackers realy and iff you find one change servers and you wont see one again for atleast a week or so. Atm its free and realy easy to find thats why there is suchs an explosion off hackers. Btw allot off people say its because off client side files but those files shouldnt even be possible to add and get the game running in the first place. Like removing tree's should give a error saying = Missing file tree you are temp banned for this exploit until future notice... this can be bypassed offc but not by those script kiddys. First remove the noobs then try to fight the big guys who can exploit the clientside with some more advance tech and not just a script.. iff all those kids whould have to look the code strings up in the memory itself hook it freeze it then change numbers correctly according to what they wanna do then unfreeze again they wouldnt even know were to start... Thanks for reading this, Grts Mike. PS: please dont judge me for my bad english i have tryed to make it as readable as it is possible for me.

That explains allot and i only bought the game for this mod so didnt know that. i should have try to hack it myself first befor jumping to conclusions so in a way its me beeing stupid. basicly this game is a hackers paradise atm sinds you cant make it any easyer as that xD i aspected a hardcoded game like BF3 made for multiplayer. anyway why dont they google it... all the info they need and exploits can be found realy easy it didnt even took me 1 min to get the hacks. they have to make a stand allone .exe that removes those scripting abilitys and for BI itself this shouldnt take a realy long time sinds they already have a open exe that they can adjust. getting it to work bug free on the other hand will take time offc but it beats getting hacked 10 times a day.

This is what i am looking for other people trying to fix the problem instat off looking at rocket like sheeps :P Thanks allot mate i realy apriciate it but it looked to me that the checksum simply doesnt work as it should work sinds those hack scripts should be noticed by it right? It shouldnt be there and it does comunicate with the game (otherwise the hack wouldnt work)

Well guys like you as admin arnt the problem. but sinds the bans are global its kinda to much power to give away. they should allowed you to ban people from your own server in the main time though and send the log off that guy automaticly to HIVE as possible hacker so they can ban them for good. or offcourse ban the admin for banning people because he didnt like them...

my last line = PS: please dont judge me for my bad english i have tryed to make it as readable as it is possible for me. so thanks for not reading and still replying. and just because rocket cant do something about it doesnt mean that i am not allowed to learn a bit more about the problems they are facing, sinds there are allot off people on this forum thinking its easy. i have hosted my own made mod off a MMO for 3 years so i know were i am talking about and just trying to think with them to get a sollution as fast as possible. i didnt had any hackers on my server untill a real hacker hacked my exe and into my server and released the DB and the hacked exe for the public. (i basicly pissed him off by banning his IP everytime he tryed to talk with my server. xD so he started to sent more nasty ways (illegale like ddos my pc while bruteforce the server) instat off trying to hack for own use/bugging people ingame he started to attack me for real.) so the only thing i could do was reroll and get hacked every day or start over again. i chooce to stop myself and basicly gave it to a Dev that helped me out allot with debugging. to dev team = is battle eye hardcoded in the exe as in iff it doesnt run or get messed with it will close the game, sinds it seems like the hackers can bypass it realy easy and that shouldnt be. the game that i used to build my mod on was Risk your life mmorpg and had a protection by itself that you could simply turn off after it loaded and gave the green flag. so i hardcoded it into my exe that iff the program gets closed or isnt correct it will crash the game so wenn they try to bypass it they would get a error. offcourse wenn the opened my .exe it was useless, and there were some more advance ways to bypass it but it still removed about 90% off the hackers i had speed hacking teleporting ect.

Lets keep it on that info guys :P

allot off server admins are closing there servers because off hackers mate.

as it is now no you are powerless. the only thing you can do is send that part off your log to them and ask for a ban they will look into it and ban. i dont know if they inmidiatly ban or with ban wave's but it seems like there are going to nuke the hackers pretty soon with a ban wave.

Exactly. it worked just fine for years and years untill people starting to complain they got banned for ''server own'' rules. Like pistols only in BF3. people dont wanna look for a server the like the rules on. So all rocket has to do is not allowing this type off rules and there shouldnt be a problem with kiddys whinning because they cant read / to lazy to look for a server.