Uncle Gapey

Also happening to me. My Six Updater still has my home server cached, so I can join via that, but I can't find it in the in-game server browser, DayZ Commander, nor Six Launcher. If you come up with somethin', let us know! I'd love to be able to connect via IP, which could very well be a feature that I'm unaware of.

Oof. My apologies for making you feel threatened - I've read that document in its entirety (and the original) more than once. You are really taking offense here and I've yet to insult you or your character. Paragraphs are... laughing at me? I shot myself in the foot? I have nothing to gain nor lose from this debate (though you're trying your damnedest to turn it into an argument). Anyhow, moving on. You're losing focus of the subject again. Caliber/weapon is what this debate (this is your thread) is about. Not random numbers of random calibers. The FBI doc has awesome info, and as it says - follow-up shots are always a good idea; you might need 2 shots to make it happen. I'd rather be shot twice by 9mm than once by .45 any day. Check out that last paragraph again (probably one of the ones that's laughing at me): "...the only way to increase bullet effectiveness is to increase the severity of the wound by increasing the size of hole created by the bullet." Bigger caliber, bigger hole. .45 is the largest handgun round in DayZ. See where I'm going with this? You shoot a human body with a .45 once. It either stops, or doesn't chase you for long before complications restrict such. You read the document - nervous system trauma, major organ trauma, and blood loss are why guns work on people. This functionality was removed from DayZ, but was realistic. Sometimes it'll require a second shot. That's cool with me. Of course no round is ever 100% guaranteed to incapacitate or kill, regardless of firearm or caliber. Just like I'm not 100% sure that I won't be hit by lightning tomorrow. You ignored many of my points, but this seems to have become an emotional endeavor for you, so I understand. Typical LEO rounds (9mm, .40 S&W) have been found to need a couple connects to kill/incapacitate. There is another FBI doc floating around that has a ton of statistics and says in all but extreme cases, one handgun wound of any caliber ends the confrontation 99% of the time. I'd post the source if I could find it, but alas I can't. Plus, "ends the confrontation" doesn't absolutely mean death or incapacitation, so grain of salt etc. Yes, I know handgun shots don't physically knock people from their feet. There are plenty of videos of crazy people letting their friends shoot them while they wear III-A protection/plates. A 120-lb woman running into you is ~1200 joules of energy. Most .45 rounds deliver around half that. I'll end with the last sentence of the FBI document (my point has been the .45 is big and makes big holes that leak lots of blood): "Of those that will penetrate, the edge is always with the bigger bullet."

The players' starting clothing is called Civilian Clothing. The characters are wearing MOLLE vests for load carrying convenience. It's likely the vests are modeled after plate-carrier vests (see: http://www.bodyarmoroutlet.com/content-product_info/product_id-3434/armor_express_light_hawk_pc_plate_carrier.html). Vests like these are not bullet proof whatsoever - the plates that go in them are. That said, installing plates adds a lot of weight to your person; enough so that current player runspeeds and swimming ability would be very unrealistic. These plates are not common to civilians. How many people do you know who aren't military/LEO and own vests with plates? You're losing scope of the debate here. It can definitely take more than 2 rounds to kill someone, that much is certain. This debate is about the specific calibers of said rounds. The cop who shot the face-eater only confirmed one hit at center mass, but did say he shot 5-6 rounds. Face-eater was already on the ground, too. Miami-Dade police carry .40 S&W pistols and use the following ammo: http://www.federalpremium.com/products/details/handgun.aspx?id=337 Below is the "same round" in .45: http://www.federalpremium.com/products/details/handgun.aspx?id=354 Here is the Makarov's 9x18 (9mm, for reference, is 9x19mm): http://www.federalpremium.com/products/details/handgun.aspx?id=96 Each of those links show kinetic energy and other important info. Ballistics, you say? http://www.ballistics101.com/ Again, this isn't about some random number of shots and inaccurate recollections concerning highly unusual occurrences of people getting shot and going about their business. It's about different calibers/makes of pistols. .45 will incapacitate in 1 shot almost every time, and not just because I say so: http://www.firearmstactical.com/pdf/fbi-hwfe.pdf. One round of .45 at center mass, or in a limb, is enough to incapacitate anyone. If that person is on crack, or a zombie? Movement (muscles) require blood pressure. Major organs don't have to be hit. Blood pressure just has to drop (see ballistic info and FBI training doc above). The pro-nerf argument seems to be: People need to take their time and get headshots! Baddies! This game/mod is all about realism, right? Taking the time to aim for heads while zombies are trying to eat you is very unrealistic. See the FBI doc above - read the second paragraph on page 3. In closing/TLDR: The incapacitation/kill rate of the pre-nerf 1911 and revolver was very realistic. Nerfing them is not the way to go. Maintain realism and adjust the rarity of the more powerful handguns and associated ammunition if there is a problem! Don't screw with the ballistics, which were pretty spot-on before. IMHO, this entire issue came from the DayZ folk(s) trying to take the easy way out: Rampant duping and hax make nerfing the guns much more effective than taking the time to properly adjust the drop rates. The exploits can be fixed, and should be fixed instead of altering gun behavior. Patching exploits should immediately be priority #1 so that we don't have to debate over silly changes like this.

1 or 2 shots of .45 is plenty enough to kill/incapacitate any human body, whether it be zombified or not. That is why this shit should be undone. Big bullets, small magazine, extra recoil - there are downsides.

My beans to you.

Like many other difficult games, it's very rewarding when you get good.