thx for reply,havent installed any 2d gfx prog (so i did it in c4d) and it was late last night,had spend enough time to find a very similar font.(had to hardreset my system,so all progs and fonts were gone) in my case i think its a light setting prob,because i applied the same texture ... i had never any artist education,i appreciate your tipp u might have a little something to read about,sth.like a certain link? thank you greets p.s. yout last work is pretty impressive u did some layering in ps or something? i really like that style :)