*chuckle* Well to be fair, Phil, many of the youtubers did start out with weapons because just a few patches ago, you did start with a weapon. The game is tougher on new players in some ways now than it was before-- however, it's been made easier in other ways -- one that comes to mind is when you would become hungry and thirsty while you were logged out. That had to stink on many levels for the veterans that had to deal with it. To the OP: I understand you're frustrated, perhaps a little angry because it was fresh in your mind as you wrote the post, but I get where you are and it'll pass. Step back, and come back to it after a bit. I guess what I'm saying here, OP is that all the folks in this thread-- we've all been there. Granted, some may have dealt with the hardships with grace, others may claim they did and are fibbing, and some may have raged even worse than you. Just know that all bases are covered in this one-of-a-kind game. The question you should ask yourself is whether getting past that hardship is worth your personal effort. When you find your first weapon, your first compass, map, NVGs... when you put a single bullet right between the eyes of a marauding zombie or lose a bunch of 'em completely unscathed. When you defend another survivor from some degenerate bandit who was better equipped than you, when you execute a hunt, gut the animal, find a secluded place in the forest, get some wood, and cook yourself some much needed food for the blood you've lost, the sense of accomplishment on such mundane things can be palpable. It was for me. Cheers, Chan