oh my god is everyone on this forum 12? the the amount of people that just say "this thread sucks" or "aww go cry" just because of the titles without thinking it through is doing my head in. this is a section that is designed around thinking about how the game play can be made more enjoyable, not to brag and / or cry about dying / killing. know the difference. Personally I'm all for this idea (i must be a hipster, not slagging off the owner of a thread in suggestions) because there is nothing more annoying than spending over an hour making your way from the coast to a major city where you can finally get some decent loot, successfully making your way through the zombies and beginning to equip yourself, start thinking "hm, maybe there are some players here i can form a group with to make the game more sociable and fun" and then getting snipped by some loner 4 miles away who will then go over to your body and since they are already much better equipped than you are, probably take a can of baked beans and waste the rest of your items that you worked hard for. obviously this still happens for normal pvp, but the snipers are impossible to deal with and cannot be avoided. as far as i am concerned, if players are going to be able to kill other players and take their loot after all their hard work in finding it, they should have to put some real working in to getting the kills, rather than having the kills fed to them through a scope.