Yep. Day Z isn't complicated... but it's cruel. Bought Arma II on the steam sale yesterday. Played that for 2 hours to get familiarized with controls. The vanilla game... has a lot of games in one. It certainly has a few genre aspects that could have been developed independently into thier own seperate game. Very different from what I normally play, making it feel pretty complex to me... Then I installed and loaded up Day Z... Spent maybe 2-3 hours dying in an average of 15 mins. Then... IT happened. I found my first weapon, a Hatchet! A useless pile of crap that caused me to lose 1/2 my blood in exchange for one zombie death. Still, I'm feeling pretty good. THEN, I met another player... and he (voice chat) DIDN'T want to kill me. He was pretty low on blood, so we holed up in a factory to plan a hospital run. THEN, while we were planning, he succummed to his wounds and died... So, I GOT HIS STUFF! I honored his memory by not hauling off and shooting everything in sight. I slowly crawled my way out to the wilderness. I restrained myself and only killed 2 zombies to make the trip easier. I cleverly and stealthily made my way to a farm, and murdered a for goat for its meat. I alt tabbed to find out what to do with fresh meat (making me regret throwing the "useless pile of crap" away). Then resolved to go cook the meat. Then 2 dudes ran up behind me and 2 shotted me as I began my quest for fire... I think my current toon has 2 blood pack, 2 morphine injectors, and about 1400 blood. That toon is doomed... One complaint, even for a game as rough as day z, having axes lodged into stumps behind houses that you CANNOT use in any way... is just sick.