twix (DayZ)

The crates are used to store the goods, not the vending machine.

Damn, those on and off buttons really turn me on.

DayZ involves a lot of running and it does get boring getting from point A to point B. But it would sweet if players could tailor their characters to adapt to certain environments and situations beforehand rather than to be limited to a pre defined set of Mo' Caps. Let's see how this works. An interface to bring up various Mo' Caps ranging from stealth, action, stealth/action, fluid, fluid/action, stealth/fluid to adapt to varying situations accordingly. The Mo' Caps animations chosen for the given situation has its advantages and disadvantages giving players total control of their character without having to lock them to a particular stance. The Mo' Caps can be quick slotted to adapt to time varying/life threatening situations. Feel free to comment.

Crocodiles to jump at you while you refill your canteen.

Those dead bodies tell you something fishy was going on there. The dead soldier bodies didn't have enough time to convert to zombies and looks like someone was trying to cover up their tracks.

Yes desperation makes you do stuff you probably thought you wouldn't think you would do ever. But that doesn't necessarily mean you are going to kill one of your group to survive. A better suggestion would be to take turns scavenging food or seek rescue by coordinating the strongest survivors in the group. If you were to think all hope is lost then you would do the irrational, but if you had at least a little hope you may think, perhaps maybe there might be a chance to save yourself and the group without having to resort to killing one and another. You would be comforted by the fact that at least you didn't resort to killing one another only to either find supplies to help yourself and the group because it's a selfless thing to do cause if I would have brought about the death of a fellow survivor by not sharing my food I would have to shoulder that burden for the rest of my life if I survived such an event. If I died at least my last thoughts wouldn't be plagued with such memories. It's easy to do the selfish and irrational thing i.e. kill off one another but it takes massive willpower and balls of steel to endure through such harsh times. Here's a good story about the survival of a group of survivors. Just because they had to resort to cannibalism doesn't necessarily mean they had to kill off one another to survive. http://www.wired.com...sm-plane-crash/ Edit: What you describe is the mindset of a tyrant, not that of a survivor.

So how would you go about making the vending machine useful? Please dont tell me not with those ideas.

Supermarkets are pretty much hotspots already. So try not to stroll through the front door and not expect a firefight.

Sure vending machines aren't a necessity for your survival but they do exist and hopefully they fit into the lore somehow. Just kinda like what liquidcactus pointed out in his post seeing a vending machine gave him the chills. What if he were captured by bandits and stuffed into the vending machine only to have the next survivor kill him in the process and dispense his body parts. That's sort of stuff is a bandit's wet dream. It would perhaps be naive to join random's in a game but for someone who is fully geared up with not much end game mechanics to add to why not have something else implemented to spend some time on. It's your choice if you would like to get things running either for yourself or a clan and defend the area. You are well aware of the risks and the rewards. Perhaps you can have it linked to your humanity in some way if you choose to help others. But at the end the choice is yours, but I would prefer to have a choice rather than have it the way it is cause that's what the forums are for.

I believe you missed the point of what I was trying to point out from the point you were trying to point out in your example. It was not a survival aspect that drove them to conquer. Would they have behaved in a different way if both of them were in need of one another's help in order to survive or just prefer to have a stalemate and just wither away. I would choose to help. Oh and Disney is banned in my country cause its overrated. As for World War 2 not being an apocalypse... I believe you are the next Hitler.

It was not a survival aspect that drove them to conquer the Aztec and the Native Americans. Surely they survived before invading the lands. It was greed that drove them to conquer in the case with the Native Americans and it was revenge in the case with the Spaniards. Say what if you plundered enough wealth for yourself would you keep it to yourself when you came across a lone survivor barely able to walk on his feet. Say why does Bill Gates run all those charities or why do some rich people prefer to help rather than not help at all? Surely not everyone is as bad as you think. In a post-apocalyptic scenario it would be the same just as in real life, you would have both the good and the bad people a.k.a bandits and survivors. Nowhere in history does it mention on how to survive a zombie apocalypse, but if you look at an actual apocalypse such as World War II what was the end result? People got together to rebuild society.

Pretty much most of the games implement the vending machine as a useless item. I am totally against this, how dare they create those pixels and render it useless. The closest thing to having a decent implementation of the vending machine would be from the fallout universe i.e. the sierra madre vending machine. So i will be trying to build up some elements from that area into the Dayz universe. Here's what I could come up with: Perhaps make it into an alternate trading hub and/or Drop off point for all the stockpiled loot you don't have much use for to redeem something. and/or codes to redeem special items. Codes are dropped from zombies. and/or blueprints to upgrade your vehicle or base and/or keys which can be used to access/open up further loot spots in a town and/or implement some sort of crafting mechanic

So it's better to fight rather than to help? To fight is to put oneself in a dire situation asking for a shot in the head whereas to help and get things restored would be a less riskier option. Here's how I look at it, Bandit thoughts: Survival of the Fittest Survivor thoughts: So if I end up killing everyone I will be the last man standing. Sure way to end the human race whether it be a team of bandits even, it is not an option that has a very bright future. Perhaps I could restore some services with the likely hood of other survivors with the same mindset. It's a choice whether you want to help restore services in an area or not. Hence authenticity varies from one person to another. There is no definite measure to it.

Just what i had in mind. The crates are there to unlock stuff in the vending machine as you scavenge more loot from the city. Initially there will be a crate outside the supermarket and you dump more consumables into it for items to unlock in the vending machines. Think of the loot you scavenged as money and then ur shop gets upgraded with a vending machine to vend you even better loot.

Have a read on rocket's comment regarding authenticity, he describes it well.

So having a vending machine vend some cans of coke would be a good idea?? How boring would that be. Giving something for the players to work and earn sounds at least a bit more interesting. Fallout implemented a super lame version of a realistic vending machine which basically vends coke. Then they spiced things up in their add-ons with the Sierra Madre vending machine.

So perhaps to get the ball rolling since everyone prefers to hate the vending machine rather than think of ideas to make it useful I'll start with some of my suggestions apart from the ones mentioned in the OP. First Aid Box Stun Gun Weapons Repair Kit Weapons Upgrade Kit

Just because you don't have any ideas to contribute doesn't necessarily make it completely useless. It's a choice for the player to decide what they would like to do at end game amongst all the suggestions floating around.

Is there a problem with bandits camping an area? I'm all in for close quarter's combat rather than all the sniping shit going on in stary and nw.

Its up to you what items you would like to see to make the vending a tad useful but not in such a way that your life depends entirely on it. Kinda like how you don't need a vehicle to get to a place when you can leg it.

Those weapons spawning in the firestation sound weird too right. Not entirely useless but not entirely useful is the way i like to put it. Let's have a look at an example Eg. Cigarettes Pros- Keeps you warm Cons - Addiction, coughing

Here Fallout did it, so why not Dayz.

It should be thought of as scavenging useful items for yourself and others. It's like taking all your items and storing it in a tent and once you are out of supplies you rinse and repeat , only in this case it rewards you with one of many different loots unique to that region. You earned it rather than having to server hop. Why would you help others? Why not. Trying to get things running around the area sounds more realistic rather than pvp.

vending machines rock. When was the last time you dispensed your tampon to stop the bleeding, like all the time.

Learning quite a bit each day. So I managed to kill a hacker today. He teleported to my location but unfortunately his back was towards me. He thought he had the advantage. Surprisingly he didn't have his god mode turned on. Put a few shots into his head and down he goes. Quite the loot on his body but I end up burying it. Apparently killing the hacker triggered a friendly fire message but i managed to get his name. Shortly afterwards "session lost".