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I know there have been topics to remove it and some people agreed with a comment I made about it. So I decided to make a video explaining how "NOT" to use 3rd person in hopes of giving some people a change of heart. Hopefully this will make people complain less about it being used at all...compared to using it to cheat *EDIT 8/5/2012 Adding to this post since people can't read or listen. 1. I have no hatred for 3rd person. 2. You do what you want with 3rd person views. 3. This video is explaining the ONLY problem with 3rd person. 4. I use 1st person and occasionally 3rd for long runs. 5. This video is posted because people think 3rd person use is just plain cheating and unrealistic. It's a game, but it is more real for some people than others. 6. I have friends that NEED to use 3rd person because the game makes them dizzy and can NOT play 1st person. The head bobbing is NOT causing the dizzyness issue. There are other people that use it for this reason as well. This is all I can think of at the moment, but I am sure I will be explaining even more soon.

Sorry if anything like this has been posted before, but I have to leave for work in 5 minutes and do not want to forget about it. Basically the idea is to have a rare food item that players would want. It could give the same or slightly more blood than a regular can of food, but not as much as cooked meat. The idea of it is to give you double the amount of time before your player gets hungry again when it is eaten.

HAL9001 here and I know this is a little late but I was doing a search for the server to see if there were forums for it and this post seems to give it some bad publicity. But I know you were not kicked for your loot because there would be no point on his part. He wouldn't have needed your loot, since we already had plenty. And Beansy, I added you on Steam!

Yeah, draw the line at the point to when they start screwing up the game by hacking and other stuff like that. Who cares about a couple idiots that wanna name themselves Nazis or people from that party? Guess they didn't get the memo that the Nazis lost the war.

Most people do things like this to get attention. Ignore them and they feel stupid.

I usually go through at least a few servers before managing to get onto a playable one. I personally don't care about battle loggers since chances are the people whining about it are people hiding in the bushes trying to kill everyone for sport. The AWS makes you a target for everyone.

It's a great idea but I think it would cause spam attacks, besides the work it would take just to implement it. So yeah I like it too...but with all due respect, I would have to be on the "no" side

Server hoppers...Jumped on a server that gives you 10fps? Oh well, too bad. Now you gotta wait 4 hours till you can attempt to play on another. Battle loggers...Oh hey, some buttlord is trying to snipe me for fun so I should just stick around and let him kill me so he can have his laugh. Naaaaaah Campers...AWS can see ghillie snipers, plus the right people having them will take out those bandit snipers for you. Carstashing...This one I don't have much to say about actually. But I do prefer to be on foot rather than rolling around in a metal coffin just to save a little bit of time.

Well if you are suggesting they can't open doors because they are brain dead, that wouldn't stop them from trying to bash the doors down. So instead of adding a mechanic to reinforce doors with wood or barricades, they just open the doors. So either way, they are gonna get in eventually. But look on the bright side, you do have barbed wire and bear traps.

Refer to the original post because I am seem to be repeating myself a lot. I made an edit to clear some things up.

My point which you seem to have failed to grasp is that people complain about the use of 3rd person view entirely. The video was posted to show the only problem with it and possibly give some players an idea on etiquette. I don't care if people use 3rd person. And obviously you must be blind because the advantage is allowing people to see around corners and over walls while remaining hidden, and giving them the chance to line up their shots much faster than anyone would be able to react. Do I really care if they do it? Not really, but I care enough to try to get the ones that HATE the use of 3rd person to change their minds. As for the "it's in the game, so it isn't cheating" line... So when unintentional exploits are found and used frequently by players, they shouldn't be fixed because it they were already in the game right? And here is an example that I found that bothered me, and it is one of the reasons for this post in the first place...

I logged onto what was supposed to be a nighttime server since I was next to Stary Sober and wanted to move to a better location. Ran across to some trees a safe distance from teh town and logged out to jump on a different server. Upon logging on, my backpack, tools, m24 and pdw were all gone. All I had left was my basic inventory. As for "server hopping", if I don't like the settings on a server then chances are I am not going to stay depending on the amount of danger there is. I'll try to sit for a minute for the Hive's sake, but there is no way I will attempt to play on a server that is giving 10fps.

Now this is exactly what I am having a problem with. The perfect example. Basically this is saying, "I don't care if it bothers you. I don't like the setting so you can just suffer because I think you are full of it and nothing will convince me otherwise." FYI, 3rd person view is not going anywhere. And if you only use it to exploit it "because others do it too", then you are a hypocrite. I won't use this on somebody else and if it happens to be the downfall of my character, oh well...it is just a game and I have found it can be pretty easy to re-stock depending on my luck.

You guys do realize that I am not complaining about 3rd person right? And yes I am aware that people use it to see around corners regardless of what I say. I don't, and I "for the most part" do not use 3rd person either.

Like I said, I personally use 1st person. What people are not realizing is that this isn't a complaint about reality. It is a complaint about the game making certain people dizzy. You know, how other games give people epileptic seizures, so there are color correcting applications within those games...like IL Sturmovik Cliffs of Dover. Yes there is a difference between that setting and 3rd person, but when it comes to allowing some people to play it when it bothers other people then a compromise needs to be made. That's the purpose of this video and all I am saying is, if you MUST use it...don't use it to cheat. Now I know exploiters will exploit and I am putting people on the "honor system" when it comes to my perspective. But at least I am choosing a middle ground with an unbiased solution that hopefully people will listen to.

That's my regular voice and I get that alot. As for Inzann, while I don't disagree with you, I understand why many people use 3rd person. This isn't a game that you jump on for 30 minutes. After hours of gameplay or less, you can get dizzy and 3rd person helps with that. I have other friends that play and can't use 1st person at all. We are all old bastards though, so maybe the game is easier on younger eyes haha. Me myself, I prefer 1st person and rarely go third unless I have been running for like 30 minutes.

We got a G36cSD off some guy named Crank today. Ended up dropping it after finding out that they are not supposed to be in the game.

Haha ok, here is a suggestion. Too many zombie games have the running ones. How about the calssic slow walking zombies? But spawn thousands of them! And if some day I do get banned for logging when the swat team kicks the door in and lights me on fire...I WILL be appealing it!

He isn't bullshitting here. I play with a few friends too and we are all scattered throughout the country. We try to go for central servers and use the 6launcher. We probably have to hop servers about 10-15 times trying to find a good one. In many cases it is just a bad server version which I doubt adds anything to the rep since we never technically logged in. Other times we find one with a good ping but by the time we join, the framerate is going at like 10fps. That's unplayable...so we quit. Many other times we sit watching the loading screen(and keep in mind, this is after we passed the lobby) that keeps loading... and loading... and loading. So again, we quit. This kind of stuff should not affect our rep. On another note... One thing I am sick of seeing is elitist buttholes saying "get better internets". Sure buddy, pay for people's contractual obligated early termination fees and they would happily change their internet for you. Until then, your comments are not helping the problem. Just because something works for you, does not mean it works for everyone. Are you just pissed off because somebody alt f4d on you when you cowardly shot at them from behind a bush?

haha, I don't server hop and the only time I alt+f4(which I don't, I end the process through ctrl+alt+del) is when I am trying to connect to a server that isn't loading because the game locked up or the server isn't responding. And as long as that isn't going to affect me, then it won't bother me. But my point still stands and although these are things that happen rarely or not at all...they still happen and it would suck to see players getting banned over something that they could not control. This banning is software controlled too, and software does mess up occasionally.

I "kind of" like the ban for quitting by use of alt+f4 even though I don't blame people for it but just as others mentioned, I too do not want to get banned because my power goes out, or my internet gets an intermittent signal, or my game crashes...or my system bugs out, or we get a nuclear attack from Russia. There are just too may other reasons why a game could stop suddenly and then end up getting banned for it.

3rd person has it's uses, but you have to admit that it is also an exploit. I don't like the fact that someone can be laying prone on a rooftop watching you walking on the ground only to pop up unexpectedly and shoot you down. It gives an unfair advantage. If they can see you, you should also be able to see them. That is the only issue I have with it. If you absolutely MUST use it, just don't use it in a way that SHOULD be considered cheating.