Graz (DayZ)

I wouldn't stress about server admins and using a hacked gun. The only hacked weapon I would be careful using is the TWS AS50, mainly because that's the hacker weapon of choice and you will be more likely to be judged for having one. (It's a very distinctive looking weapon) If I see someone running around with a G3SD it's not a particularly big deal, seeing as it's not a significant upgrade over the M4A1 CCO SD. The weapon you are talking about is basically obtainable without the SD part, it's only got a 400m effective range so it's basically a fair fight for anyone. I say enjoy your weapon, if you get banned server side appeal the ban and link to this post :)

This is the most I have ever laughed at a thread in my entire life. Redfield, you are my hero. I can't believe that people are dumb enough to set up an account using the same name as the ones they play in game.

I can't understand your post >_< You can please edit it? What service? What admin abuse am I doing? What magic admin powers was I talking about? I tried to read it several times, but I would appreciate if you could structure the response for a bit more clarity. Edit: I'm also waiting on you to tell me which servers you "administrate" :)

How would batteries nerf NVG??? If you have batteries and an NVG, you will still be back in the same place O.o

Will be online later tonight, 7-8 hours from now. Have a Huey and will help you get it back, not sure if I can offer you any more support than a lift I'm in the middle of a server relocation myself so depots have fallen into disrepair.

I think the difficulty of getting something like this going is what will make it so fun. Once it gets going and we have some turf, it'll give the bandits and greifers something to do besides picking off fresh spawns, which is better for Dayz imo. Thanks to the boys for getting this organized, excited to be part of the challenge!

Server abuse will continue through the game's life if it is not addressed, being alpha has no impact on people abusing administrator powers. It is irrelevant how draconian the rules are, they are the rules that an administrator agreed to. Rules are supposed to be clear cut and well defined, or "black & white" in your words. This makes them easy to follow and everyone knows what they are. It's when you start making a million and one exceptions to passwording your server that the rules become pointless and enforcing them is hard. You are most correct about Alpha. The dayz team needs the right information to create an amazing game, admin abuse distorts the information. I'm sorry to jump down your throat, it's just that this is a more serious issue then you think. When you are playing sports, how upset do you get when the umpire takes his wrath out on you????

For those who are too lazy to check the forums where this occured From Dez "Rechecked logs. Several inconsistencies found due to new battleye update. Evident that a bypass has been used. Not sure what for but I don't care. Also mass changes in location data on Hive writes. Perma Banned" This makes no sense Currently what we have Ban was issued for an attack on an admins buddies No evidence was provided Reasons for ban was nonsensical and for 3 different "suspected" hacks, none of which are part of a script kiddies normal routine. Admin has refused to provide any proof This looks like typical admin abuse to stop someone meta gaming your base. You make admins look bad, I'm ashamed to share this title with you. Without your logs, it's only a matter of time until you are blacklisted

I completely agree that the forums that promote cheating should be shut down, it's just not going to happen though. A ban is what works, global bans hurt and mean another $30. Ultimately what is better is script detection and just simply negating malicious scripts. There are solutions server side that prevent setdamage=1 and there is a loop that kicks people with godmode. I didn't mean to come across as naive, but thank you for supporting the reporting and banning system :)

Kids don't move on, you said it yourself. The server you refer has been hacked to pieces the last few days. I just simply made the connection that it's not unreasonable to guess that your methods aren't working. You also have repeatedly missed the key point. This is about nuking and kill scripting, the destructive hacking. Should you read the post with an open mind. See that it's not about what your doing, it's what scripters think your are doing. A script kiddie is walking around fully kitted out isn't a big deal, it doesn't make them better at the game. They can have an AS50 and rangefinders, it gives me someone to sink my teeth into. That's not battle eye policy in my experience, I'm sorry that you feel being trigger happy will work. Can I ask you just one question? If battle eye is unable to do anything, what do you really think you are going to do???? Some food for thought The 11,000 bans by battle eye are have done far more for the community then anyone else. Reporting to battle eye consumes ZERO developer time, it's completely separate to Dayz and battle eye can actually do something about it. Admin abuse wastes developer time. They have to police the forums, enforce the ToS and review logs plus blacklisting claims. There has been little success from admin banning All of the nay-saying, dumping and attempted derailing is reinforcing this point. It also can't change that my server has suffered one attack in two months, it's regularly full and I have never issued a ban for hacking. I receive less than one complaint a week and my character has been alive for nearly 2 weeks. Interpret what you will from this thread, the substance is there

You reacted to attacks by port blocking and now your server is constantly being attacked? I believe this is exactly the kind of thing I am talking about. I love that your admin is doing what he can, but he's not solving anything at all. Please take a little bit of time to read through my post and especially the message at the end. Getting a hacker to "move on" to another server is not solving the problem, you push, they will push back. Yes a lot of them are children, we all know the type; Someone in life made them feel small and now they will use whatever power they have to make sure no-one pushes them around like that again. Most of them are spiteful, quick to anger and hold a grudge. A global ban is the best way to solve the problem, admins need to spend less energy trying to be a vigilante and more time reporting these hackers. Protecting "your" server will only make it personal. In the end kids will assume you are just another abusive admin and attack your server, like they have done over the last few days. There is a reason developers put these restrictions in, they didn't do it to emasculate you.

From multiplay (the host of US 1357) "Thank you very much for letting us know about this. Passwording servers is something that can affect our standing with the Dayz Devs very seriously so I really appreciate you informing us. I've stopped this customers server and sent them a warning that they need to remove the password. I will be checking on the server periodically and if they continue to ignore our warnings I will suspend their service." Thank you www.multiplaygameservers.com for sorting out this admin abuse. You are not special for hosting a server #US 1357, hopefully you will play by the rules from now on.

This kind of thread pops up all the time. People are sick of responding to the same post (virtualy) over and over. Perhaps the OP should do a simple search before posting what they believe is a 'ground breaking idea'

First off I am very sorry to hear about the ban wave hitting legitimate players. I know this will been seen as nay saying, but it's nothing like that. I am currently in possession of a M1A4-GL-AGOC, which I have used for some time, stored in tents and gone on many missions with. I'll jump in before the forum trolls find their pitch forks and light their torches. I earned my shiny OP non-legit gun from a hacker that forgot invisibility doesn't work on zombies, that and just because I can't see him doesn't mean I can't shoot him :P I'll stop stroking my epeen and get to the point, why would legitimate people people who accidentally pick up a random gun one time get banned, while I've been walking around with a clearly hacked gun for some time, plus I've stored it in multiple tents, many times?

Great to see an admin post something like this :D You can't do anything on suspicion alone. They could've been legitimate finds It could've been dupped (which is currently not being banned afaik) They could've stolen this off someone else They might be hackers, if they are good, do you really want to upset them? Some food for thought. Who's camp is it? (I doubt it's one person, who's scripting/not?) What can you do (you don't have any power, bar in-game justice) *IMPORTANT* If you read hacking websites, the most common occurring reason for nuke/kill scripts is people retaliating on what they believe are abusive admins, tread lightly

Which servers do you administrate?

Bodyguard online for the next 2-3 hours. Will be providing chopper support for medics. Hit me up on the forums Or steam http://steamcommunity.com/id/FinalGraz Have skype details too.

Meanwhile... What is this server's status, is it removed or is it locked? Have any of you submitted a ticket?

Let's cut to the chase. Your server is working as intended. Server =/= Dayz. If your server is broken, please contact your provider and let them know what the issue is. For the sadistic pleasure of forum trolls, please post the response here.

That is not what is happening here, read the thread I touched on it but I'll respond directly, WoW, Aion, Eve & other games with a persistent world have strict rules. These games will suspend and in some cases ban you from their server if you hack, exploit or abuse mechanics. If you want further reference, you should look at the Ensida ban in WoW some time ago

I'm reading my response and I believe I have unintentionally mislead you. I'm sorry about that >_< I'll try again. This is not like CoD/MoH/Q3. You are connected to separate database, in this case a Hive. You have no rights there. This is closer to WoW/Eve. Yes you own the game, sure thing you can do whatever you want, noone can take your copy. What I referred to as Dayz encompass' the hive, Dayz is provided to you by the development team, including the hive for free. To allow you access to his version of Dayz, you agreed to a terms of service in exchange. Break them and you will be dissallowed. You have the same rights as in those games. I understand your point, now please understand this one; Nothing stops you from setting up a private server with your own hive. You want to play with us, you play by the rules Break them and don't expect the pittance you paid for a server to hold any water

I'm going to keep trying with you You are paying for a server, NOT Dayz. Dayz is provided by the development team based on you agreeing to the terms of service Dayz is not charging you for the game, they are providing this for free because you are abiding by the rules O.o. This speaks for itself That's not manic :S ;Mania is a state of abnormally elevated or irritable mood, arousal, and/or energy levels. In a sense, it is the opposite of depression. Your rest of you post is bang on. Catnipkiller, chill out! I had a chat to support team. The are intelligent and understand how psychotic some of the admins are being. Continue to report, post evidence and be patient.

How does any of this lead to less admin abuse? You have also (repeatedly) missed the key point. The server hosts pay for a server, they do not pay for Dayz. Dayz is provided to a server based on hosts agreeing to the terms of service. The most important part of Dayz is the hive which, You have no rights over You do not pay for Is not owned by you in order to access it, you agreed to the Terms of Service I will make it a little plainer for you No-one on the dev team cares that you pay for a server, there are plenty of people that are willing to take your spot as an admin. They don't want your money, they want people to enjoy Dayz and it to be tested properly. The negligable amount you pay is meaningless. If you don't want to play by the rules, you are more then welcome to get yourself blacklisted. Please go ahead and flaunt your imaginary power, my canteen is waiting to be filled with ego-maniacal admin tears.

This is not the point of the game. I'm aware that people don't like trekking to their buddies but the ability to spawn together should never be implemented. For starters this is a survival game, an advantage to death (so I can spawn with my bff) is against the vision. Also it allows for instant travel, "Hey where are you" "Cherno" "KK loot the hospital then jump onto this server and join me at the airfield" This isn't CoD or BF, dying is supposed to suck. You shouldn't be able to respawn because you are supposed to be valuing your life. I'm all for teams having some options to coordinate their movements (some kind of team chat), but the idea of spawning together is severely flawed and less of an issue then you think. I like the RP justification, but it is just as likely that your buddy is 3 cities away on business before all hell breaks loose. This is what you want "Hey where are you going to be when the apocolypse starts?" "We should meet at the strip club an hour before for a lap-dance, then we can hit the supermarket for Doritos after the killing starts" "No probs I'll see you there, we can try survive together and spoon at night for warmth" This is what is supposed to happen "Dude I was at my accounts and he just tried to eat my face off!" "Crap the same thing happened here, my boss just tried to shoot me because I was holding beans, we should meet up!" "Yep I'll meet you in that Russian town that I can't pronounce, can you bring some bottled water?" "Nah mate, some psycho with a shot gun is staking out the shops. I'll try loot a vending machine on the way" A better solution for the Care-bears; Split the cost into 2-4 sections that you can spawn in. At least you are just under 30 minutes from a link up.

Like the crossbow imporvements ^_^ It would be cool to have crossbow's as a side arm and then nerf the damage for 2 body shots to kill. They would see a bit more usage but I'm happy with the place they currently have. Rocket has stated that he wants the zombies to be more varied and improved, he also wanted nastier zombies that have had a longer state of infection. Improvised melee weapons (maybe I just want to slap some sniper with a pool cue) would be awesome. I would like this to be coupled with a Nerf of gun drop rates so there's less rifle armed people walking around. Police zombies having sidearms isn't game breaking, just make sure it's a standard issue crappy one (the makorov leaps to mind) with a clip or less, depending on if the zombie shoots wildly at you. I am confident there will be more clothing options in the standalone. So long as they don't give advantages (people shouldn't be forced to wear stuff for stats) then the more variance, the better!