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Its really hard to modify in the way you cant exploit it unrealistically. I think the key is to modify 1st person view to get more players there, i would go with 1st person if they modify it to be more realistic.

Could you please explain the difference then? First you act like "You cant say that to other person!" and then you say ""If people would not have been like "Oh.. Dat insulted mah race! He said that! She did dat!!" there would have been no more than one nation/country on the world.". Didn't you just do that?

Here is your posts: "You told someone other than your existence/relation to do something, which is ordering. You can order people as much as you would be pleased, however, that does not change the fact that you are not allowed to order other people if you do not have the authority for it." "What you don't seem to understand is that even though your intention would have been meant to be ordering (in which case I'd not even bother to warn you anyway) "go play!" is an order rather than an advice considering him already being aware of those servers and possibly playing in them. It is "literally" an order. You may underestimate that statement (which does not still change the fact that what you wrote was a clear order) but that saying of yours would do nothing but anger him up and a possible flame war would occur." "I believe that if people would be careful about what they say, the world would be a far better place with no war." "If people would not have been like "Oh.. Dat insulted mah race! He said that! She did dat!!" there would have been no more than one nation/country on the world, due to which there would not be a need for being so much greedy over other "nations/countries" in the first place.(which is totally my opinion tho)" Dont you see the conflicts in your statements?

Thanks for this. I started to think im alone against all these "1st person"-preachers.

Now wait a minute. You just rambled several post about me saying "go play!" and how that is wrong and now you say this? LOL!

I get your point. And its fair argument but not the same thing. I eat fast food time to time because i dont have time to cook or im too lazy to cook. In the 1st person vs 3rd person debate this is not the case. And if all the people realize that actually first person is much more immersive and enjoyable why they dont play in 1st person servers? I would easily play in the server where game is more enjoyable, honestly! To me its much more enjoyable when i can switch between 1st person and 3rd person view. Im 100% sure, if all of you who wants to play 1st person servers would combine your efforts and find a good 1st person server/s you could play the more enjoyable way this game. And if there is no good 1st person servers you all should host one together and divide the expanses. You should not try to force ALL players to 1st person only, not all players want that. Do you get my point? Do you agree at all?

He just said that he is not playing in the first person servers. He wants to wait the standalone. I really dont understand why this "go play!" is such a big deal for you. If Wayze is offended by that i apologize.

Then why Standalone should be 1st person only? If there is 1st person only servers in Standalone also just like in the mod? I think its best to have both 1st person and 3rd person views where we can choose. Everyone wins. Dont you agree?

SoulHunter, please. I understand that kind of rules must exist. If you read my post you see that im not "ordering", im just saying there is servers where you can play. If this is too much for you and you cant sleep tonight i can change my statement from "go play!" to "you can play there" or something... oh the humanity...

mmm.. what?

Same thing here, why are they empty? When reading these posts and all your polls and sh*t it seems there is enough players who will play the first person only servers. Where are all these players? You got the servers! You got what you want, go play!

Literally same? Literally!? Not the same thing.at all. Even tho its a good argument. I understand your point, with 3rd person you can exploit the view to unrealistic way and wallhacks are also unrealistic. But still, its not the same thing. I use 3rd person, i prefer 3rd person, i would like to play 1st person only if they fix it. And i think there is enough players here that want only first person servers, why wont you all go play in the same servers? You got the community here. Just contact each other and go to same server. What is the problem here? I REALLY cant understand why you first need to force all players to 1st person then you can go play...

This post makes no sense. You say people want first person only servers. There is first person only servers and there is no players? WTF? Seriously? I cant understand what are you all crying about? Go populate the first person only servers and enjoy the game together. Dont try to force everyone to play first person only. 3rd person should be in the mod and should be in standalone. Its an option for servers/players, and a good one.

If you make an argument you should be able to explain and stand behind it. If you cant you should be insulted. How in the world these two are the same thing? Well, you cant fix stupid.

Wayze, please use your head. For now you can choose to setup your server with 3rd person on/off, this will not remove 1st person, its always there. Now if Standalone is released without 3rd person how will i create servers with 3rd person on? For the current info there will be 3rd person in Standalone and it WONT disable the 1st person.

Not the same thing playing ONLY 3rd person than switching between 1st and 3rd person while playing.

OMFG! Do something about it! You got the community here! Rent your own servers and make it 1st person only and stop crying here. How incapable people can be. Jesus...

I could say it is just the "haters" who don't like 3rd person view posted this poll and so on... Why all the 3rd person haters think they are right? This is just a game. I strongly prefer 3rd person and i know that you can exploit it and make gameplay unfair, there is loads of things in DayZ mod that you can exploid and make the game unfair, not just 3rd person view. I would prefer 1st person view if it was made correctly. Its way too restricted at the moment. I could write lots of things that needs to be fixed in 1st person to make it actually realistic. I only tell you guys one thing and from that you can use your imagination: when you are prone and you hove some small object in front of you, let say one feet tall object (grass, rock or something), the only way to peak over it is to rise up to your knee, this is the one of the major things that i can not tolerate. Solution for this is the free look. When you press ALT (free look) you should be able to move your head/upper body up and down as well. Think about it...

This poll is so stupid. It could say: "Would you play dayz if they remove one thing you like from the game?". Most of us would play it anyway. Why make the game worse? If i was game developer i would NEVER remove 3rd person view if i knew there is players who want it. Why would i? The real question actually is: "Would you play dayz if you can choose between 1st and 3rd person view?". This is the question that matters, not something that forces people to play in some way. And this stupid poll is irrelevant because there will be 1st person only servers, everyone wins.

This! I prefer 3rd person but would play if its only 1st preson.

Picture yourself in a zombie apocalypse. Forget about DayZ for a while and really picture yourself running from hungry flesh eating zombies. Imagine that for some reason one of the zombies catches you. What do you think it would do? If i give you options to choose from what would it be: 1. The zombie would start punching me 2. The zombie would jump attack me (and then starts punching me) 3. The zombie would grab me and try to bite me 4. [something else?] What about crawling zombies? If you walk/run too close from a crawling zombie what would it do? 1. The zombie would start punching me 2. The zombie would grab my ankle (probably trip me) and try to bite me 3. [something else?] One more thing. If you are running through a zombie horde and pass few of them too close would you get hit and keep running the same pace or maybe the zombies grab you and you slow down a bit or even stop you completely and you have to fight them off? My biggest concern about standalone is the zombie behavior. It is RIDICULOUS at the moment. Im not talking about animations, timing, clitching, pathfinding or anything like that. Im talking about what the zombies should do to you when they catch up on you. I tried to contact Dean Hall for a numerous times and never got answered about these things. So i decided to start a conversation just about zombie behavior, nothing else. What do you, the players, think about this? In my opinion it would make zombies a lot more dangerous if they grab you, slow you down and basically trap you when two or more zombies hold you down and starts biting your face off while all the rest is approaching as well. Whit this kind of behavior you dont need to make them faster or stronger to make them more dangerous. It would be really hard to just run by a zombie if it can slow you down or even make you stop completely. I dont understand where are these punching zombies coming from? Is this Dean Halls vision of zombies? This ruins the illusion of a zombie apocalypse for me. Even now i think about zombies brake through my door, runs to my chair while im writing this and they stand behind me and starts punching me? Seriously? If you agree with me or have any idea that would make the zombies in DayZ better please share your thoughts here, and maybe standalone developers will read this and wont ruin this beautiful game.

Now, THIS is the best comment in this whole post. And i agree. I personally like more the biting flesh eating zombies but i can live with the fact that they just rage-hit you when attacking. What im trying to say is it would make zombies more dangerous if they can prevent you just running pass them or through a horde. By grabbing and holding (slowing you down) would make you think twice before you shoot and make them all go crazy on you. You would want to avoid them as much as you can. For now you can just run around without even killing them. And making the zombies faster and stronger is THE WRONG WAY to make them dangerous. Am i wrong?

Simple melee would work just fine for this kind of game. The melee should be more accurate than it is in the mod. And it would be nice to have crosshair in melee so you can really aim for your blows. It would be simple and effective if your blow hits where you aim with crosshair only need to be in range. Thats all im asking. If there is gonna be more complex melee i would like to see kick/push, you would be able to knock back zombies/players. And if you hit with an axe it could stuck on the target and it would take few seconds to get it off and start swinging again. This would make melee easy against one zombie but hard when there is more in proximity. Basically i want it to be really easy kill a single zombie in melee fight but really hard against multiple zombies.

You and Applejaxc are the kind of people id like to meet IRL. I would tie you up and do a little waterboarding. I would make you explain why you do this and when you cry and say "it's fun to me", i would torture you more and shout "not good enough! BE MORE SPECIFIC!". I would make you explain from the depths of your heart why you get enjoyment for ruining games for other people and do it such a fashion there is no challenge at all. You are the scum of online gaming. If i had to guess you had a hard childhood and you are trying to pay it back this way. So sad... Back to topic. Most fun and challenging is playing a hero. KoS all bandits. Try to help all others. Only shoot back if you have to. Raid hospitals and supermarkets, give medical help to others and even give them some of your gear. This is really challenging and rewarding style. It makes it easier if you do it in a group. Other really fun way to play is just stalk people. Dont shoot, dont help, just follow them and try to remain hidden all the time. It makes your heart jump and its really fun! ;)

Well, i think Dean likes the 28 Days Later infected and wants to imitate them, i also think he wants them to be zombies (eating human flesh) but it was impossible to make them act like that because of ArmA2 engine. And the only thing they could add is the eating animation while player is knocked out to the ground and added that. And now they make up these stories about the infected to fit in their limitations. There is no other explanation why they added the eating animation in to the game. If Dean had decided to go with raging infected instead of flesh eating zombies he would have not include that eating animation. All this nonsence about zombies are not zombies, they are infected people started after DayZ become popular. If this is the case, Dean wanted them be 28 Days Later raging infected AND flesh eating zombies at the same time im REALLY mad if he wont do it in the standalone. He had the chance (and still have) with the new engine.