just to make that one clear: i got, NVG, GPS, Rangefinder, DMR(for night) , AS50(for day), L85 (for every occasion), M9 SD, M4A1 CCO SD, blah blah, several cars etc.etc. im playing in a squad, mostly at least 2 L85 with us... i played as spotter aswell as sniper. Either u got l85 on you, or you got no chance vs guys with l85. period. Squad A with 2 L85 and 2 Snipers (any sniper-weapon) vs. Squad B with 0 L85 and 4 Snipers (as50)... GUESS WHO WINS... :-)