thelonewarrior

You are free to post what you like, but posting things that at send it off topic is just going to detail the thread and get it locked which I don't want The topic here is not to discuss all the previous issues with KOS You know exactly why and what is being discussed here, your just probably hoping you can derail it enough to get it locked And what I meant was that its going off topic so from now on it needs to discuss only what the original post was meant to discuss Which is what I meant Besides I clearly stated what the discussion is and you choose to ignore it and waste your time telling me things I already know

Your comments are falling on death ears Frytek, they don't contribute to this post at all Its fine that you haven't got the stones to try, your in your confort zone of KOS This post isn't for you Im looking for people who have got the balls to try

Heard it all before The discussion about it isn't the topic here Stay on topic or don't post, if you want to discuss the ins and outs and whys make your own post This is for the people who want change and about what you are doing to make that change Thanks

Except people won't because there is no alternative This is an alternative Of course it requires action, people believe it can't be done so don't bother trying regardless of consequences, if you believe that then by all means continue your ways The first step is the longest stride, people expect an instant miracle solution to all their problems, this won't be done overnight KOS only means temporary survival until you meet re next player or get in a sticky zombie situation and you might win or you might lose Having someone not kill you is potentially long term survival, even if your not looking to make friends it helps to know a trustworthy person who can bloodbag you or help when your pinned down Seeing as most players go at it alone, when you do get in a bad situation your pretty much screwed

This is not a discussion about why when how what about KOS It isn't about if thy are going to kill you or betray you It's 100% about if you personally want to make a difference and REDUCE KOS and be part of that which is trying to do that You can say all you want about how it's never going to happen, but that is a completely different topic So only people who want things to change (regardless if your a bandit or not) And if the answer is "yes I would like things to be different for the better " The contribute Because for some reason you think telling me things I already know (like STopping KOS when I said reduce KOS) Somehow you think this will change my opinion So just give up replying if that's all you going to talk about because it means nothing when it's been said a million times and you'll be wasting your time And RAGE I never said they were not surviving did I? I am solely talking about idiots who spawn kill, hunt players purely for that and not survival and kill people despite having their only option for survival (firing a lee Enfield at me and ignoring zombies while they stand there and die is not survival when they are ignoring that part of the game) Those playing for survival that's their choice, sitting at the coast with a sniper aiming at a spawn point is KOS

Well then guess ill continue fighting alone, point is for me is that with the new zombies most people can't survive alone and continue the circle of insanity that is kill for the sake of a kill regardless of the zombies hitting them and most of the time killing them We fell apart after one major operation where we locked down cherno and a hacker followed us using dayz commander for months just killing us over and over all day every day so most of us quit, was rather pointless playing so I went off the grid under other names to escape this hacker We have done it in the past, we will do not again, the majority always wins When we were organised and the policing was the vast majority of our servers we did a good job at keeping bandits down until we were stalked by the hacker Like I said, this post is for people who actually want to make a difference, KOS = killing as soon as you see a player for the fun of it Defending yourself and others is not KOS Yes it's safer, if there are Jo zombies around, with the amounts of damage they currently do only the good bandits actually manage to get any reward from killing a player then killing all the zombies Almost every person that's tried to kill me in the 1.8 update has died before being able to kill me due to zombie aggro and death or been killed after it during killing me We just need more people dishing out justice like back in the day for me, and we can make a diffrence When the majority is bandits, most become bandits When the makority are decent people willing to fight, most will stay on the winning side If your not willing to try and help, then I'm not really interested in what you have to say There are people on here all the time wanting to change things, if your not one of them you having nothing to contribute to this thread I haven't heard a million times

Yes good ideas I think rubber shotgun rounds that do very little damage but always knock someone out would be useful Tazars would also be nice, and it's quite possible that a dart gun could work as there are weapons used on things such as tigers at zoos I remember a place I went to as a kid where the animals were free roaming and there were two guys who had what looked like cz550s with darts in their hands, a short range 1 shot rifle that knocks someone out for 5 mins would be very useful to me

Really, so those kosers on the coast sitting with a 5 man squad at every spawn point are surviving? So they are surviving by shooting someone who is blood bagging them while they are unconscious and dying and shoot them as soon as they stand up even though they know they are going to die? So these people who purposely camp spawns are playing to survive and not troll people? Really if your defending these kind of players clearly this is what you do all day, If you call this kind of play surviving, your a troll and you know it

Dgeesio What your actually saying is that nothing will change YOUR KOS attitude You do not speak for the entire community or the entire human race, many times I've tried to help a geared up player who has broken leg and is swarmed by zombies And they choose to fire and eiether kill us both by shooting me and then dying to zombies or missing me and getting eaten while I laugh at their stupidly (loudly through direct chat) So you are saying, that humans do this: They have broken legs, pissing out with blood and a guy comes running at then clearly shooting the zombies, hero skin(in real life a medical sachal or simpler medical bag) He starts saying get to cover, I'm here to help, your moments from death and think OMG a human! Kill it! Shoots the guy, gets torn apart Yes your right, all humans are suicidal That there is the problem with KOS, why don't you just stop replying? People have clearly stated they don't want to run around in fairly bunny unicorn land but they want a balance of KOS and incentive to help each other or be friendly But all you seem to care about is arguing as you said all these people want 100% removal of KOS when actually they don't, they just want it REDUCED (which just to make things easier and more understanding you should google the meaning before posting a reply to this) Well I and most people here don't, a 50/50 balance opposed to 99/1 balance makes the game far more interesting and authentic (do not confuse with realistic) No offence meant (unless you go ahead and post that I want a unicorn bunny land or some shit, then yes I hope I offend you which you will deserve for not actually using your brain and replying to my post with some thought) Thank you

Actually KOS can be changed In the good old dayz, when my clan had something like 120 members(now its just me after many waitin for standalone or board of dayz or annoyed by hackers so they left) Many times we held down 3-4 servers at a time, policed the cities, hunted bandits (and recruited ex bandits who saw the light) and basically made some areas safe for people who complied When you have 20 members of the same group spread into sniper teams, assault, flanking groups (with clan tags off so the enemy never knew our real numbers ) It's surprising how many people and friends we made There were still bandits, most of the time on the run and being hunted by us so there was still plenty of firefights Except we were winning for a while until hackers took a liking and stalked us across servers for months so many have up trying It can be done, I've seen it first hand so don't say it can't In the standalone, those days will return

I hear you, here's a short story from my first time playing dayz 1.8 Spawn, head north ASAP away from pvp central, make a small stop at the hospital in cherno and find a dead guy with an m14 and loads of ammo I check out the hospital roof, but using the staircase near the apartments to make site no I e is camping there, I see 2 bloodbags on the roof and after searching inside I head up and take them No the shit hits the fan Bang bang bang bang bang at me from multiple directions, I dive into prone, having been hit once by an ak There's a guy on the hill tree line a good 300m away spamming at me I have a hero skin by the way His friend is running in an open field, straight at me with an m29 saw and slows to a walk and fires at my position Next a shitload of zombies, at least 50 run towards the m29 guy, he gets hit a lot and ignores them I take the chance to get off the roof as his friend throws a grenade to clear the Zeds off his dead friends body (to get the m29 I assume) I run into the woods and escape, not fancying my chances or even wanting to have such a loud gun I make it to nwaf with 7-8 people now on the server I spend a good deal of time creeping and not aggroing, using my hachet when needed and don't find much there except an m4cco with 2 mags As I'm leaving I'm hit and knocked out by a dmr round, zombies ignore me and go after the shooter and while unconscious I hear spam after spam of dmr mags going off, A death message appears and the shooting stops, I awake and make a fighting , bleeding retreat to the body to find a fully geared gilli , but don't have time to loot and have to fight off zombies, and sadly die trying to get his body On respawn I did meet 2 Freindly ish guys at balota but didn't want to hang around too much as I suspected they might have shot me later My point is, most people are acting like idiots and losing decent gear or just plainly dying and being stupid because they don't care a about zombies, but them complain about it on here saying how they are op Your right in that it won't change, the same way I'm right that 95% of murderers are idiots who just hang around camping for kills and get killed and gain nothing, potentially losing everything just to say they got a kill on a player There are some decent bandits out there, but not many

Yeah I encountered a bug with zombies, sometimes they will aggro to you, run away and then stand on a certain spot not moving until you move again Also, you know the little yellow house (the rare enterable one),, yeah I went in to fight some zombies off and they stood outside the front door not coming in, so I could easily dispatch them. I left and came back to see if it did it again, fired a lee enfield and ran inside, the horde just stop outside without attacking while I casually cut them down with a hachet

I like the new update, zombies are more of a threat. the only problem I have is the amount of food and drink I find. I easily found 40+ pieces in cherno and decided to head north, on the way I found that a lot of barns each had at least 3-4 pieces of food or drink in them, same as small sheds, every loot spawn I found had a least a couple of pieces of food meaning that the increased zombies damage meant very little to me as I was always able to find enough to restore my health which I find counters the difficulty WAY too much making it much easier once you realise how much food is avalible to you

I'm going to say it again, it's not as easy as finding another server The last time I played I spent a week on one server before finding out from the admin I could get "epic lootz" if I gave him some money Quit that server and never looked back Two more servers I spent some time on and a message popped up saying to donate for free AS50 on spawn The last server I spent nearly a month playing on before I found out that a group I had been fighting against spawned with m24s and a live map showing all players I had wondered how they had it and was told by at least half the server that if I want it I can donate for it, explains how they found me all the time really...... So I had spent months jumping from server to server finding those without the bullshit self blood and verchiles everywhere and npcs and whatever only to find people mostly playing to win So maybe I should find another server? It's hard enough to find a half decent server let alone one that's fully decent only to find out after weeks of playing about this bullshit Finding a new server isn't a solution, stopping people from gaining profit from arma by doing this is the solution, but that's not going to happen is it? It should be in the terms and conditions of the server hosting that they can not gain personal profit as a result of hosting this server

One of the reasons I'm currently not playing, it pisses me off to play on a server for a few weeks and then see people talking on side chat about how they so bad ass because they spawn with an AS50 because they donated It's not as easy as finding a new server, not when you've made a home and dedicated yourself without knowing The worst I've seen was donators who were given a cheat menu to spawn helicopters, map hack and spawn with M24, would have just thought they were hackers had the admin not confirmed that I could also be "bad ass" for a small donation of $20

Yawn It's not about the ability to survive, I survive fine, I like many others are just board of having to fight everyone the come across, which is because it is a dearhmatch now, one of the reasons I've stopped playing, it being far to easy to survive being another reason Everyone knows it easier to kill people You talk about not forcing cooperative play, just because they are adding elements of teamwork doesn't force anyone to team up or force them to stop killing on sight I could say the current mod forces people to kill on sight, which would have more truth than you saying that adding cooperative elements somehow forces players to stop killing on sight And tommes......... Really? Just really? You only want pvp....without the annoying spastic zombies? Why are you even bothering to play? You must know that the SA will be nothing like that so this game will be nothing like you want it to be, it's people like you joining this game that are adding to KOS when you don't even want to be involved in the zombie apocalypse Wasteland is for you, it has everything you need and no zombies Saying that I've always wanted to use the line "don't shoot I'm a doctor"

I know it won't make the slightest difference in adding my opinion, but from what I've seen I've always come to the conclusion that a harder game with less ammo and tougher environment will increase cooperation at least somewhat Dayz + Harder zombies, they beat you to death very quickly and lone wolves have some trouble mostly I saw many hostile players leave the servers i used to play on because the zombies were too hard I met more friendly players on there than on any other game mode Dayz 2017 Since zombie damage was increased Ive not met a single hostile player, might have just been lucky as I only ran into 3 due to the low population of those servers and 2 of the 3 had guns as did I Plus offering starving players cooked meat on A regular basis meant they needed me alive to trade food when they were desperate due to me having a stash, I would Limet each trade to 2 pieces of food each time so killing me would be pointless in a way as they would never find my stash Dayz 1.7.7.1 Pvp cluster fuck, people don't need each other so just kill you People die over and over at the coast, so sticking north usually might find a few good people trying to avoid pvp central Dayz 1.7.7 People raging, but more were cooperating than ever before, whether there were bugs or not, people were helping each other and the bandits didn't really change, just the occasional scared survivor asking for help The problem is that people keep dying over and over on the coastal cities then complain the zombies are too hard when in fact the truth is really that they are just too scared to team up with people to fight zombies, so you get the never ending cycle of: (With hard Zombies) Spawn Head to cherno Get wounded by player or zombie Ask for help and get betrayed / or shoot players for gear Get killed Spawn Head to cherno

Why do people think that without snipers / dmrs that people will be able to run around without any fear Id be more afraid of someone pursuing me and hunting me then having some shots fired from a mile away as most of them can't him anything I have no problem with snipers but instead of sitting on your hill shooting people why don't you go down and shoot them..... Oh wait that requires thinking, tactics and the ability to not spam bullets.... My bad

At which point did I say that bandits and KoS players isn't a valid playstyle? I actually said it is At no point did I say I want to change the game to my playstyle "If you don't like KOS then maybe this game isn't for you" Is a completely pointless argument Well maybe if you don't like friendly player then this game isnt for you has about as much strength in a argument Read a post before writing shit that has little relation to it Clearly your one of those people, otherwise you wouldn't be defending them so much See I can make assumptions too If your going to respond to someone, take the time to read their post, don't generalise or stereotype them or make assumptions that have no basis which you would find had you looked through other posts I've made that I enjoy pvp etc just as much as the other aspects Just because I don't enjoy being spammed at when I'm spawning in on a beach I should play something else? Really, get over yourself

Not this again Blaming the victims is ridiculous, the camping sniper isn't restricted to electro What do you suppose people do when they spawn on the beach to get killed by a sniper then? Many times I've seen clans and groups setting 1 guy at EVERY spawn point and shooting people before they spawn in, which is another issue on the topic Sure you can go somewhere else, but that's like telling a child it's better to run away froma bully than to do something about it People do use cover, but there are plenty of places where you can see most of the entrances to a city ( cherno tower for example) It doesn't matter how much or how well you use cover, a guy with a dmr easily can spam bullets and kill you So basically your saying, don't go to cherno, electro, balota ( plenty of good sniper positions there) Berezino, starry, nwaf, neaf, zenegorsk or solnichny Doesn't leave a lot to do does it? No stop blaming people for getting sniped It's the guy shooting them that's the issue, not the unarmed guy who got 600 dmr rounds spammed at him from a mile away We need the bandits, but the guys shooting bambis are just jerks And no, I rarely get sniped like this because I do avoid the coastal towns, but new players should t have to deal with spawn deaths and getting sniped every 5 mins

I've had this before, it took verifying the steam cache, on all 3 arma 2, arma 2 operation arrowhead and also the beta patch, then run them all once in that order

I've done it a lot in the past, it works I. Private servers quite well The only time we got taken Down was by hackers

Yeah but think what that would mean for being infected in a group and can't find antibiotics They can eiether shoot him in the head or let him turn, would make for some interesting situations

I remember the first time I killed someone, before the bandit skins were out back in ( though he was a bandit kill) I hesitated much longer than I should have, nearly got me and my friend killed I always feel guilty when I fail to help someone in trouble and although it doesn't happen with as much ferocity I do still get an adrenaline rush in combat, I'm a lot calmer when interacting with players now, whether or not it's a firefight or friendly chat I still feel the same emotions but I've gotten used to keeping a calm head now unlike when I was newer I'd nearly always panic under fire

Mine averages from 70-80 right after a restart and 40 in towns But once the server has been running for an hour or so I get about 40-50 and then 25-35 in towns