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Beans indeed ...i thought it was gonna be one of those little bitches complaining about bugs and shit :P

There is no problem lol so the barracks should stay exactly like it is...the reason people aren't north yet is because there is no need to go there yet ....no vehicles ...no chopper crashes ...nothing but it will most likely change when dean adds more weapons and stuff to the game. Anyways why should people be forced to go north to get gear ? whats wrong with staying/going south for high end loot? nothing that's what.

Yes zombies and melee needs a lot of work.....Just a few tips for you if you didn't already know. Don't use melee weapons too close to a wall or your hit that and not the target your after. Make sure that your melee weapon is actually in its proper stance.....for example make sure you dont have it raised like you would need to do with to use your firsts as this raises the actual weapon too high and makes the weapon highly inaccurate (you'll know if its in the wrong stance as your weapon should be in the middle section of your monitor ..not hanging out to the point that all you see is the wooden handle) Aim just above the zombies head and it should hit most times. For players i find aiming for there neck will actually hit their head. Time your hits ....let the zombie get close to you and then back off as it tries to hit you and when it misses that's when you go for a swing. Also do not crouch to hit zombies it makes your melee inaccurate and cause less damage as your not hitting the high damage areas (head) and also because zombies do more damage to you as they hit your head more often than if you are standing up.

I feel as tho if dean adds too much stuff and complexity to the medical system ....then a lot of people will actually not even use it as they would rather just die somewhere and go loot their body as its much faster or have a friend loot you then give you your gear back or something.

Moron ....complete moron ...what are you even doing in the alpha if you have no idea what its for ? And who says i have a problem with the game ? because i don't ...i gave my feedback/view on this matter and that's what alpha is for feedback on everything to do with the game such as features and bugs ....good or bad. I cant believe how stupid you are for making a comment saying "make your own fucking game if you have so many problems with this one" as its such a stupidly illogical response to someone giving feedback of a alpha game but then again i see you cant comprehend what an alpha is actually for like i said before....you cant just go around telling everyone that makes a bad comment or gives bad feedback about the alpha and planned future features to go make there own game if they dont like it or dont like it ? go play another game. Yes its deans vision....but he wants the community's feedback on the alpha also we did pay to create his game so we have a big say in what we want or don't want in the game ....its pretty obvious your the one that has no clue about game design or the business behind it. Now jog on you little fool.

YES ....lets just add more crap we dont need just for the sake of it ...whilst were at it ....why not add Extacy so we can force feed them to players so they dance with zombies all night?

Mabie they should add lootable sticky labels into the game ...and when you find a pen you can write there name on the label and stick it on the blood bag ? or even write the type of blood it is.

What a horrible idea....how about you bind your gear menu to G or something :S

haha love it.

LOL WHAT .....we didn't see him swing the axe at you in the video ...but im sure he did and lets just say he did and it was in the video ..you waited way to long to do anything to him ...no shots fired or anything all you did was sit there complaining and scoping in and he was running around for a good minute or whatever .....NOT COMBAT LOG AS HE WASNT ACTUALLY IN COMBAT.....doesn't matter if he hit you with 3 minutes before ...2 minutes before or even 1 minute before.....you didn't keep him in combat so its not a combat log end off.

Thats not a combat log .....he wasn't actually in combat lol ...would have been a different story if you took a pop at him now and then to keep him in combat so to speak but way to much time went by for that to be considered a combat log.

I totally get what your saying and your right ...we both and its down to dean what one of our views he shares and that shared view will ultimately be the design.....as both of us are right this discussion could last forever and that's why i said we should just move on and not clutter the thread :)

Iv used a defibrillator on a few friends that where unconscious and they stood up and where able to lean and move there head but not actually move anywhere....they also still see the black unconscious screen so its most probably bugged so not working :)

The zombie damages will probably be changed many times in furture ....in the mean time you should be ripping up all the t-shirts you see in buildings and making rags from them to use as bandages ...there really is no excuse to die from bleeding out from zombie hits :) unless your a totally new fresh spawn and are unlucky enough to start bleeding again after tearing up your t-shirt for rags before finding bandages/t-shirts around.

All this should be added in after the core game is working as intended.

Go troll somewhere else .....

Where does it all stop ? adding new stuff to extend the "endgame" then when you have done that stuff you need more stuff to extend the "endgame" even more. Forget that crap ...."endgame" is ...exactly that "END of GAME" When you reach this "endgame" all your suppose to do is repeat the previous stuff...go help a new spawn get geared up or something or kill some people ....and if you die then you have something to do again don't you :)

Its an idea that's suppose to already be in the game lol.

Not it cant ...and shouldn't go anywhere ....not until they fix all the bugs/glitches currently in the game.

I think they should make it so the gear thats on a dead body appears in the VICINITY and is lootable when standing next to the body.

LOL WHAT....if anything you will KOS everyone you see just so you dont lose your amazing gear....god when will you people learn that KOS mentality is here and its here to stay ? :)

HORRIBLE....but thanks for trying

Yes but hes in danger as soon as he logs back in as hes continuing from where he left off....and that's where my examples come to play ...take number 2 example....whereas not relevant to being unconscious in itself it is relevant to the fact that i would have died because i couldn't find a bandage or rags but didn't as my friend logging in removed any danger of vulnerability of me dieing from loss of blood....just like how you saying that i could logout and login when my buddie is there to make me conscious again...the end result is i survive in both instances >>>>>>>>Lean way :) You get what i mean ? Anyways we have said all we need to say on the matter...lets not clutter the thread.

And this just shows even further how much of a moron you are ....you still cant get it through your thick head that alpha isn't all about bugs....its about everything to do with the game and features are part of the game yes ? Your assumption that im a casual player just plain stupid and my va-jay-jay ? grow up ! Like i said before this doesn't even affect me but ill give my unbiased feedback/view regardless. And also your banging on about deaths being a virtue of it being an alpha....yes we all know that but we are talking about the new design of being unconscious and the effect that logging out during unconscious has to different types of players so stop adding in your crap about alpha this deaths that.

Hehe well he kinda is like he said himself :P This is where my examples of lean way come in as like i said before the game has many of this type of problem with the game. To explain a little more ill take a quote from you "what stops people from immediately logging when they go unconscious and wait for a buddy to gather the necessary items to revive them thus they have no danger of dying. They would only need to log in as soon as their buddy tells them." Now take this for example....Im in a gunfight with someone in the supermarket at elektro and im as good as dead as im low on health and have no ammo left and my friend says im in the back of the supermarket. Now what stop me telling my friend when to join in the server and where the guy is so he can shoot the guy in the back then come to bandage me and blood bag me? We have all accepted the lean way given here and as i said before the new design for unconsciousness needs to have lean way for players that go unconscious from thirst/hunger/exhaustion because at the end of the day as long as they take the proper steps needed to become conscious again then people shouldn't be punished. Im quite sick of the explaining it now and wont explain any further as it doesn't even effect me lol but i give my unbiased view/feedback regardless.