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Ill find ammo ...and if i cant find ammo ill use a hatchet or something ...chances are if I cant find ammo then others wont ..so they are without ammo the same as me and will allow me to still kos with my hatchet = not stopping us and by "us" i obviously meant those who want to kos regardless of how the game is. Also tell me ....if you think ammo will be so ultra rare as to only have 4 rounds total ..then why do you think i wouldn't shoot someone and hope they have ammo? when is 4 rounds gonna help you vs zeds ? shooting that gun is gonna alert more zeds so you wouldn't even get yourself into the situation of using your gun as those bullets would have been totally and utterly wasted on shooting 4 zeds with a swarm behind them lol....you would use your melee weapon to kill zeds not bullets if they where that rare. So it seems the only use for ammo is to kill other players with....and thats exactly what ill be doing...shooting them regardless of how much ammo i have or how rare it is ..and hey if they have some ammo on them then thats a plus.....ill use that ammo and find the gun for that ammo and then kos the next person i see. Can not wait.

Its funny that you think ammo will stop us :))

No. id actually aim straight at those NVG's purely to make sure there destroyed. Theres something funny in knowing the player that I just killed will be raging because he lost that "super loot" and if anyone else that finds his body and sees NVG's then gets a hard-on but then realizes there broken NVG's there hearts will sink =)) I cant wait.

Or it could have the opposite effect like i said in earlier posts.....someone may have a clip/mag and decide to put a few bullets in your head because its possible that you have ammo and they want it and even if you didnt have ammo then its no skin off his nose as he was gonna kill you anyways. And like i said if people are now more cautious about wasting there ammo it just makes it easier for people to kos the other players that don't want to kill players.

No there is not.

You know what ...i truly hope that this does make people think twice about kos although i don't think it will at all...because if people are more cautious about gear and dont want to damage it ..then ill be able to kill people even easier...sweet thanks man :)

yes they are

Well it seems alot of people want to remove "KoS" and a lot don't....btw killing and kos are 2 different things.

Kos the first person i see.

Just thought id ask something. In the current mod when you shoot no matter the distance (as long as zeds can hear the shots) zeds run straight to the person that shot and disregard everything in its path and its very unrealistic to say the least. But with standalone and the increased distance that zeds can hear gunfire....would you guys prefer that zed behaviour is changed (if possible) so that when for example...someone shoots their gun inside a town that zeds don't disregard everything in there path as they run towards the person that shot such as other players that are clearly visible to the zeds ? Also shouldn't zeds take much more random paths as they run to the person that shot as lets be realistic ...how could zeds possibly pinpoint the gun shot especially from large distance? This would make it so that zeds although first triggered by the gun shot ...that if they encounter other players (increased chance they encounter players if they go random paths) that they disregard the gun shot and chase the other player instead ? This is just off the top of my head and by no means in depth.

Nah ...very unrealistic/authentic ...doing that would be a problem and would be just as much of a problem as the one your trying to fix as other players are essentially being penalised.

Well if you look at it like this ...each time you spawn after dieing you essentially spawn as a whole different character/person so your old character whilst dead should still very legitimately be able to be looted by you and your new character because of the fact that your a new character and any of your dead bodies laying around previous to you spawning in with a new character are different characters.....now obviously being a new character you wouldn't know where your last characters dead body is but you do ....its a game after all and not real life so this kind of thing cant be fixed without breaking another part of the game or lore or whatever.

In what way would having a older version of dayz that is bug fixed make everything so much different ? The pvp would still be the same, admins could still tweak there servers to add helicopters and stuff and still let people pay to win by donating to there server....admins can still abuse there powers to check locations on people and vehicles and stuff and spawn themselves things. One of the reasons dayz was so good when first released was because it was new....not only was dayz new but the arma engine itself was new to people that only bought arma2 to play dayz mod and mods alike. So when these new players first experienced arma+dayz mod ...team play was a big element not because of any benefits it added but purely because people where all sharing info with each other on how to play the game ...for example: New player runs into a even newer player ...new player tells the newer player there's a weapon at a certain location and that he can have it ....one thing leads to another and they end up teaming up to explore and have fun (games are more fun with several people right!) What happens next is after time progressed these players learned the meta game and nothing is new and they don't need/want to team up with anyone (random people at least) as they know everything they need to know...then boredom kicks in because they know the meta game so nothing is new and they decide to pvp to have some fun. Pvp then led to people shooting anyone just for the sake of it and in turn made other people kos players out of fear of also being kos'd or simply to join in on the fun. So teaming up with people is hard now so many although they want to team up they decide against it as they would rather kos others than be kos'd time after time because of trying to talk to a random guy that then kills him. People started downloading new maps to try get a "new" experience of exploring the map and teaming up again (although pvp was still hugely there in these new maps there was a big increase of people that did want to team up and explore the new map) but as it was only a map that new experience didn't last long and then pvp kicks into the kos stage again. You will not get that old experience back that you first had when you played dayz....its pointless even chasing it even when SA is released, after you experience the content it will become old and although you may have got a taste of that old experience you are chasing you'll not get close to fully experiencing it again. No older version or newer version of dayz will give you it.

lol i don't think so ..dean said everything will be locked down and stay locked down.

You see ..nothing but trolls that didn't read all the previous posts and got no clue what there talking about so have to resort to making stuff up and trying to troll ...try contributing something to the thread and grow up. Ill be the bigger man as it seems i was right and people will just keep going in circles ..this is my last post on this thread ...try troll bait me in if you must but im done :)

Whatever buddie ...the reason i asked for thread to be locked is because im done explaining myself and shouldn't need to as its all in previous posts ...you would have known that if you read the whole thread but thats not what you did was it ...you did like i said you did ...read the last page and then jumped straight in with your 2 cents without even knowing everything people wrote previously in the thread and try to argue against them ...move along m8.

lol thought more people would have input on the subject :P

Not even gonna give you an informed reply....its pretty obv you mabie read the last page and not the full thread. You mayaswell just lock the thread inception ..because people like this will just come in ...read only the past page and then try to troll and cause arguments...and say that the read the full thread.

Grow up buddie ....now please shhh and stop trying to argue... inception is right ...we are just going in circles ...we have said what we needed to so leave it at that and let others put there opinions.

The full game takes zero skill m8.

The info is there....sorry sir i cannot help you, move along please!.

The backed up info and examples are in this thread ...you obviously haven't been reading peoples posts ..or fully reading them at least ...that would actually explain why iv had to explain again and again the same argument over and over to you. Dont be lazy go back and actually check. Again you ask me to explain and explain ....like i said you simply must not be able comprehend what im writing although its very simple and a child could understand it. If you cant find this info even after iv explained and re quoted many times and even assured you its all in this thread then i cannot help you as you cant comprehend what im telling you.

I would really love it ..id love being able to possibly also "flush" out other players by taking a few shots forcing a player to have to run away as they see a swarm of zeds run in there direction :D he would be like awwww fook me lol.

Listen you can word play all day long and worm your way out of that stupidly put together argument by selecting quote after quote and using stupid examples that make no sense to try backup your arguments but i put your argument to rest several posts ago and anyone with common sense will know that what im saying makes sense and that what you are saying is complete rubbish. I put my opinion out there and backed it up with relevant info and i put your argument to rest with backed up relevant info ..so until you can come to me with a completely thought out post viewed not only from your biased view but an unbiased view and back it up with relevant info, please kindly shhhhhhhhhh. Untill then iv said all i need to say and if people actually read the previous posts then they will understand my opinion.

You do not "know" ...knowing is fact and opinions from people you talk to is not fact....there opinions. I could for example say the opinions of the people i talk to go against what the opinions of people you talk to ...they both cant be fact ...thats why there opinions. Not hard to understand. Also i didn't say i "know" that people will get bored and resort to KoS....i said that they can and usually do hence the example i wrote. I think that your actually the one clutching at straws in an attempt to bash the KoS play style here.