Leo (DayZ)

Was driving an ATV around a rail yard when the ATV decided to randomly explode. Was driving rly slow and engine was yellow-green. go arma2 physics :(

I'd like to see most weapons in DayZ receiving a serious nerf. If people don't have to fear losing their life in the blink of an eye they might decide to do something else rather than shooting everyone instantly on sight.

FIRSTLY: A MESSAGE TO EVERYONE WHO IS NOT ROCKET. I made this thread to provide feedback for Rocket. He is the one supposed to read it and I hope he will. You are all free to read it as well and reply but I don't really care what you have to say. The person who do might have interest tho is Rocket. So if you want to reply aim it towards Rocket. No discussions please. In DayZ people choose themselves if they want to be a friendly guy or a bandit. I understand we need to keep this ability to choose intact. Bandit players are no problem. But what I feel like is that currently in DayZ most players want to be friendly and team up(with random players) but can't or see no reason to because of how the game works. This is something we can change. Make it "easier/safer" for friendly players to find each other and add more reasons to play in a group, while keeping the ability to play as a bandit intact. Changes like when people no longer spawned with a gun. That was one of the best changes I've seen happen in all the DayZ patches. So lets get started. I'll begin with how it also begins in DayZ. Spotting another player and deciding what to do next. Currently the decision what to do next is usually shoot the guy. You do this for self defense. The distance you can get killed at is huge and you will die really fast. You simply don't have time to try to communicate because you will be dead before you can say "friendly!" Whats going on here and what should happen can be showed quite easy with some graphs. There is the Range Graph and the Time Graph. Lets start with the Range Graph. Range Graph HOW IT CURRENTLY IS Range Graph HOW IT SHOULD BE If players get the chance to communicate before they have to fear for their life they won't have to kill everyone they see on sight simply because they don't know. They will have quite a bit of information about the other player after all. What did he say? Does he keep moving closer to me even though he can already communicate? Even if he won't communicate that will tell you a lot. Weapons won't have to be completely useless at longer ranges. they just need to be less lethal giving a player the chance to run away to safety if a player he spotted starts shooting at him. How do we achieve this result of reduced killing range? (or increasing communication range, but I won't go into that) One way of doing it would be to nerf all the guns accuracy and damage. But this might hurt the games realism and authenticity. I think weapons will need a slight nerf but we can't go too far. Do remove one shot kills like the lee enfield and make the weapons that are two shot kills now possibly three shots. Possibly a better way of doing it tho would be to significantly increase the rarity of primary weapons and their ammo. Also make carrying the ammo for primary weapons take more inventory space. What kind of weapons you can currently find is ridiculous. The AS50 sniper rifle is more common than a CZ550. The best example of a balanced primary gun in dayz would be the double barreled shotgun or even the crossbow(crossbow needs a buff tho). All weapons will need to be rebalanced and some removed. Lets use the lee enfield as an example on what should happen: -Lee enfield spawn rates (slightly) reduced. -Lee enfield bullet damage reduced from one shot kill to two shot kill. -Lee enfield clip size reduced from 10 to 1. Altho the weapons that need the biggest nerf are all the military weapons. They need to be EXTREMELY rare. reduce the spawnrates of these weapons in firestations, deerstands and crashed helicopters. Deerstands can spawn CZ550s instead. that rifle completely disappeared from the game and its sad because it was one of the better balanced guns. ammo quite rare, only 5 rounds per mag and doesn't one shot kill, especially at range. What we are aiming for is that everyone will be running around with pistols. They are the perfect standard go to gun since they can't hurt so badly at range. Note that players can still carry a primary weapon as well. Its just really stupid to do so because it will be an ineffective weapon against infected, and if infected start attacking you while you still have your primary out you can get screwed before you switched to your side arm. Making primary weapons and their ammo so rare will also tell players who see others carrying a primary a lot of information. Using a primary against infected will be almost out of the question after all. You don't have enough ammo for that. and chanses are if a player has a primary he must have a pistol too. Primary weapons will be quite rare after all. Why does he have his primary out? Chances are if he does he is a bandit. Or while you are trying to communicate with a person you just spotted he switches to his primary weapon. Chances are he's hostile. I suppose its kinda like recreating the bandit skin. But in some indirect way and nothing is certain. Sure, some people might cry that they can't get cool guns anymore. But honestly a double barreled shotgun is just as cool to kill a person with as an AK. and a CZ550 will be just as shiny as an AS50 if the CZ550 is rare enough. Altho that doesn't even matter. DayZ isn't about shiny weapons. It's about interaction getting an experience with other players. The second graph is actually really simple. Its "time to communicate" VS "time to kill" I kind of started talking about this already with the lee enfield being a one shot kill. This stuff mostly applies to short range engagements tho since you are already communicating. Again, pistols would be the perfect balance. If player A decides he wants to kill player B it will be a bit risky now, because player B will have time to respond and return fire. The next thing I want to talk about is adding more reasons for players to play in a group. One of the obvious things that would be a great addition would be more things to do other than finding loot & repairing vehicles. But I'd imagine these things will take a lot of time to implement and I don't know much else to say about it other then "They should be there!". So lets move on to things I can say something about. These are hopefully a bit easier to implement since its just gonna be about tweaking what we already have. kinda the same as what I suggested with the weapons actually. Make certain areas of the map almost unaccessable for players who are alone. Have the infected deal more damage and have certain areas have more infected activity than others. For example a small town could be accessible, or sometimes accessible to single players. But a large town like Cherno or Electro would be too dangerous to enter alone. What I mean with sometimes accessible is randomize the amount of infected that spawn. If you're lucky there will be hardly any infected in a small town, but Cherno and Electro are so big there will always be infected. One of the most important things that need to happen for infected to be more dangerous is that they will be able to hit players that are running at full speed. Perhaps the infected will break the chase if a player ran so much meter away from the infected spawn building. This will give players without a weapon that got spotted at the border of a town a survival chance. The next suggestion which would support group play is the following: Remove the ability of a player to bandage himself, or make self bandaging less effective than when another player does it for you. Like, after bandaging yourself you will lose another 2000 blood until you finally stop bleeding. This change will also have an effect on infected difficulty and not being able to enter certain areas alone. Exactly what we wanted. My final suggestion is more about the PvP aspect of group play. It will add reason to play in a group and at the same time make players a bit more survivable, something I was aiming for as well back at the start this post. The suggestion is: Every time a player is about to die, rather than dieing he will enter the unconscious state with the hourglass timer and bleed. If no one helps him he will bleed out before the hourglass timer is over, if someone bandages him he lives. This mechanic is already in the game but not common enough. It needs to happen almost, if not all the time. Whats important tho is that it will happen INSTEAD of dieing. Don't make all players go unconscious at half their normal HP. That will just reduce survivability again. The suggestions made at the start of my post about weapon killing power had this final suggestion in mind. What makes everything work is the balance between the two. Survivability is increased enough, while hopefully keeping authenticity intact. Rocket, I hope you found my feedback helpful. Some of my suggestions might not work too well but I hope I did bring over the general direction I think you should be going. Regards, Leo EDIT: I've got some updated thoughts about the primary weapon balance. Basically I've had some pvp action again in the last few days and I realized how hard it is to hit moving targets in DayZ. This is just the way the arma 2 engine is so we will have to work with it, so what I suggest is to have a good amount of high clip size, low bullet damage weapons in the game because these will be the most balanced weapons when comparing battle vs moving and stationary targets. Example weapons: MP5, winchester, remington, m1040, all the pistols. These weapons, plus some lee enfields, double barreled shotguns and CZ550s should become the standard weapons in DayZ. any of the other weapons should be really rare and possibly not even spawn in fire stations or deer stands.

Ok. Couldn't stop myself from replying (altho this is ruining the thread because what we're talking about has NOTHING to do with dayz suggestions/feedback). All I asked for is that people won't turn this thread into an endless discussion, nitpicking on every single thing another person said, or simply bitchfighting. It doesn't matter whether or not I change my viewpoint because I am not the game designer. I just post my thoughts, another person posts his thoughts and the actual game designer can base his viewpoint off that. Thats the type of system I had in mind for this thread, because I think it keeps things much clearer for rocket to read. I can totally deal with criticism. I even sort of said that in the last line of my post: Rocket, I hope you found my feedback helpful. Some of my suggestions might not work too well but I hope I did bring over the general direction I think you should be going. but, it doesn't matter. I made a decision to simply leave back my feedback and not go into it any further, discussing every single part of it with random people on this forum. I don't want to do that. I tried making a ticket, posting my feedback there but it was not accepted by the dev team. https://support.dayz...7726&c=hwIYOUoW thats why this thread exists on a "forum" All I asked was to follow the one rule I made in this thread. If you would have just followed it everything would have been fine and the thread would have been pleasing to read. But it was too hard for all of you. Instead you twist around what I exactly meant with the rule, making me look like a terrible person or something. I guess thats all people really want to do on forums then.

No discussion means don't comment on any replies made in this thread. Just say what you think about the first post and thats it... I thought it was pretty obvious what I meant, guess not. Or this forum is filled with idiots.

I thought this was a thread to ask questions at rocket, not you. How are you so sure he reads everything?

I had some new thoughts about the weapons in DayZ. Added an edit to the bottom of my first post.

btw, out of the 6 guys we killed 4 of the corpses disappeared instantly. we could hear the flies but nothing to loot. Is this some kind of exploit/hack? ps. m4d clan, U Mad?

LOL! Just played on us194, killed about 6 M4D guys in electro with my friends (server hosted by M4D). When we killed the last two guys the server went down. Ye, I know whats going on here. LMAO

Q: With all due respect, how much of the threads in the suggestion forum board are actually read by rocket? I put quite some thought and time in trying to provide useful feedback so I'd like to know if the info was actually brought over.

As I said in my first post, I don't care about this forum. All I know is that Rocket is a nice guy and I'd like to help him on his game. If this forum is necessary for that, so be it. If you wanna sit here and bitch at each other all day please go ahead. I don't mind. It would be great tho if you could just provide feedback for Rocket, using my first post in this thread as a base. Say what you like about my feedback and what you don't. Explain why you do/don't like it. Or add other suggestions. I'm sure Rocket would like that.

Hello, I am really enjoying the US70 Server - Hosted by DrTyWords. However, there are a few game settings on the server that annoy me and I'd like to see changed. These settings are: 1. Being able to see yourself, others & vehicles on the map. This setting feels like cheating, I always know where I am and removes any excitement of figuring out where I am. It also renders the GPS useless. Having some kind of sonar around you that shows any nearby players or vehicles is also really dumb, imagine being killed by another player only because he saw your icon on the map. screenshot of this: http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/184/arma2oa2012062122395128.png (left: my position, right: set waypoint visible in screenshot 2) 2. Setting waypoints on the map, telling you exactly where the target location is and how far away it is. Again, takes away all the excitement of finding out where you are. Should be removed. Screenshot: http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/6724/arma2oa2012062122393194.png 3. It is also possible to see the "black X with a circle around them" markers that other players placed on the map, this allows players to communicate while it shouldn't be possible. global chat was disabled after all. I don't know if it is possible to disable this setting, but if you can it should be. Everyone who likes to see these changes happen on US70 (or not) please reply in this thread, starting your post with either YES or NO. I've got confirmation of the server admin he will read this thread and might change the settings if we get enough votes.

and your posts voices the opinion of everyone else who plays on that server? have you met every single person who ever played on US70? Sure, this poll is not a way to find out what the players of US70 really want, but don't talk too high about yourself like you know everyone. As for your arguments: I can understand people want 3rd person, or crosshairs or nametags. But the settings I mentioned in the OP do nothing but go against the intended mechanics of the game. What is the purpose of a compass if a map shows your orientation as well? and whats the purpose of a GPS if you can use the waypoints? whats the purpose of removing global chat if you can still globally communicate with others using the markers on the map? This is not the way rocket wanted his mod to be. We are alpha testers and we will have to live with the way the game is. If you can't handle that you shouldn't hide behind a server with wrong game settings. You should stop playing DayZ.

Me and two of my friends were playing on EU18 today. We had really good gear and were defending electro from any other players getting in. some players who worked together kept coming to electro and we kept killing them. the names I remember: [JTC] DJSpeed [JTC] Little Clash [JTC] Sayers At one point just after we killed them again me and one of my friends fall down dead on the floor at the exact same time with around -28000 blood. no gunshots heard. I lost all my gear. It all seems really fishy to me, like we got killed by hackers or admins.

How bout doing the same for the flashlight? good suggestion, I might actually use the flashlight if this happens. maybe even better if the flashlight goes into the slot where binoculars/nightvision goes. but idk if thats possible.

US61 (NY2) shows twice in the server list now? wtf

No females? script #16? I think I know whats going on. ( http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rule%2016 )

spawned in ocean after putting on camo clothes ... they stopped helping us here didn't they?

roger, thanks!

is there a max ping setting on US61? (kicked for too high ping)

US61 has been broken for about 20 hours btw, no loot no zombies. I thought there was autorestart?

better not rollback... that means all the progress me and my friends made will be gone.

US61 (NY2) needs a restart. major fps lag