thats why I said arma devs should provide servers, after you wait 20min for server response, you spawn with no gear and cant really play, the hud aint there... Actually I know the game I bought, thats why I didnt buy it when it came out, I dont really like it that type of game. I would rather have given that money to the Dayz Devs than paying for a game I dont really enjoy. That being said, Ill give ACE a try, but the problem I see with Arma(and simulation game in genera) is the controls/navigation are really a barrier for the player immersion, Its a chore to make your avatar do what you want to do, and although this is the case in every game to a certain degree, when it comes down to simulation these kind of thing ought to be next to flawless. The relation between the player input and the Avatar in Arma feels chuggy and unresponsive.