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always been in look up the tables lazy guy. Hacked is the same gun silenced that is when its hacked.

You failed to take into account storage space and man power and size. Military Vehicles are designed to withstand weather far more than your garden variety Chevy Blazer. There are 4 companies in my building for each of those companies the MTOE(Modified Table of Organization and Equipment) is around 200 soldiers. Which is 800 primary weapons, that doesn't count the side arms, grenades, fix gun emplacements. My company has about 3 50.cal fix gun emplacements. Even if looters take more than what they need and loot my entire building. There are 4 more building right next to it at least carrying the same thing probably more depending on that companies MTOE. Again back to what the op is saying it doesnt matter if looters take more than they need they still need people to move it even still there will still be a ton of stuff still there. You don't loot a military base in a couple hours impossible unless you have a Army. The OP is trying to establish that it isn't realistic that there are so many 50.cals running around when in fact it is and probably less than what it would be really. TL&DR Realistic argument doesn't work with DayZ. It is an interpretation of what Rocket believes a Zombie apocalypse would be. Realistic comes into play with the fact that you have some realistic gameplay aspects, but DayZ is not an attempt to be the most realistic game ever created.

Wrong! No way they would be stripped within a matter of hours there is to much stuff in a military facility. Seeing as how most servers are only 50 people they couldn't even strip one company's worth of stuff from a military facility in a few hours unless they had a Ural. Even then they would have more than they need. 50 people don't strip a military facility in a few hours lmao. Care to try again? I am in the Army, 50 people would have more than what they needed just from my companies arms room seeing as how it is stocked for around 200 people. This is why this kind of logic and post fails because the people posting it seem to have no idea how much stuff a military base has. Its easy just google the population of one Military base (probably going to be hard to find exact numbers but you should be able to get a estimate.) That is at least 1 gun per soldier not counting side arms, fixed gun emplacements, tanks, grenades, your 50.cals, your military vehicles etc. If anything DayZ has less than what it would REALLY be.

OP doesn't seem to realize he is playing in Rockets version of Zombie apocalypse. Seeing how OP has a different version of the apocalypse he should create his own MOD. No one has first hand knowledge of what the hell would be laying around in a Zombie apocalypse because there is no such thing in real life. So for all we know it could be like Shaun of the Dead. Or maybe its like Resident evil with one Super-hero girl with super powers able to duplicate her self and a Evil Head of Umbrella named Wesker who is able to teleport and hard to kill throws missles.

That everyone knows! You sound like you giving an excuse to be lazy cause you don't feel like going all the way up north to look for a vehicle. Even though during your search the likelihood of you coming across a nicely stocked camp is very high. The reason people take vehicles and camps mostly up north is because most people hang down south. It makes sense just walk your lazy self up north if not just walk if your gonna chill down south.

Impossible to hoard vehicles. If you haven't gotten a clue as to where 90% of the camps in the game are then I you will figure it out eventually. Think christmas, Santa, North Pole, Profit. At the very least if you go up north camp hunting your going to find a vehicle. If you go up north and there isnt a vehicle on that server switch to another I'm sure you will find one. I think problem is only a problem when its your "main server" if you just play on random servers I can't really see this as a problem.

So far this patch is excellent as far as bugs and stability. I havent had any problems yet with this patch much better than the last one imo.

Your dumb! I know zombies aren't realistic just as much as you. The engine is based on realism. Arma who MO is its the most realistic Military shooter on the market. That is what its all about. DayZ is built on that. Its not a virus or some shit. Its not like there are Zombies so I should be Veronica from Resident Evil with special powers. Certain parts strive for a realistic approach. Like the Weapons.

Yea sure shoot me in the foot. Your not blowing off half of my leg. Can you read? OP is saying that 50.cals need to be balanced because they 1 shot kill. Its realistic Certain things about this game actually alot of things go for a realistic approach like Arma. The weapons is one of those things that is somewhat realistic. Its not a situation where 1 thing is realistic so the whole game has to be.

Pretty rare only found at Heli sites At night yes No

equivalent of a wall hack would mean it can see through walls which it can't. Most combat probably happens in the open world i.e fields and forests if you hide behind a tree they can't see you. Hell behind a thick bush they can't see you.

Ghillie suit does the same thing it does in the real world camouflage you in woodland areas. You can make a ghillie big enough to cover your equipment(backpack) No problem there since this uses Arma a military SIMULATION engine. Its not over powered or needs a con. Its con is if your running around a Urban area you stick out like a sore thumb just like in real life. Its thermal it does what its suppose to give you a advantage. Same thing it would do in the real world. Again Simulation vs Game NVG's don't use RARE batteries in real life so they don't need them in DayZ. Your standard triple A's work in PSv1-PSv7. Only thing that isn't represented is lack in depth perception. Which is the draw back to NVG's at night in the real world. Simulation vs Game again A 50.cal sniper rifile will kill you in 1 shot in real life. If I aim at your foot in real life and fire I will probably blow off half of your leg. 50.cal sniper rifles are for vehicles. Actually the according to the Geneva Convention your not even suppose to use it against human targets. The loop hole is that you can say you targeted their equipment. The damage for those rifiles ingame is so high because its taking in account vehicle damage which is what they are designed for. So yea it should kill you in one shot no matter where you hit them. Real world best you can hope for is that you don't bleed out from having half a limb blown off. The other rifles in the game are designed for engaging human targets which is why they dont do as much damage. Simulation vs Game Its a military simulation or based off of Arma's military simulation style. It does so very very well as someone who is in the military that place the game its spot on in my opinion. If this was another shooter then yea balance is important. The way they are in DayZ is fine because having a 50 cal sniper means you can still die to a guy with a AK at CQC or a lee einfield user. There is no AIM ASSIST in this game you have to either already know or learn how to engage targets with each gun using their sights. When I play cod or any other FPS I don't have to know the mil-dot formula I just aim center mass. The only shot in this game that is self explanatory to anyone that has played any fps before in their life is anything 300m or less because most guns are Zero'd to that range in real life anything beyond that you actually have to start accounting for bullet drop and calculating distances. Unless you have a range finder but if your target is moving then you have to account for that. Only gun that makes it EASIER is DMR because of its little recoil and semi fire function. Other snipers don't really let you spray and pray.

Arma is a military simulation a gun isn't overpowered its just better just like in the real world guns are better than others. A 50.cal will kill you in 1 shot if it doesn't it is with out a doubt blowing a piece of your body off that can't be recovered or repaired. So you will probably just bleed out anyway. if it hits center mass there won't be much of you left to salvage probably will have to be identified by dental records.

I think you might have encountered 2 separate problems maybe. The L85 is in the game still but from everything I have read (I have done alot of searching on the subject since I just found one) it indicates that if you log off with the L85 on you it disappears possibly still bugged. What you do is place it in your tent before logging off and it will still be there and you can use it the next day rinse and repeat. The L85 and Ghillie suit issue are kind of tied together it has to do with anti-hack measures rocket placed in so they are in the game but are still bugged. You put a ghillie on it doesnt save your progress so anything collected before logging off will be gone from what I understand. So what people do is carry civilian clothing and switch back to that before logging off. The MK48 isn't bugged so you might have just lost that because it didn't save before you logged off.

There are reports of people saying that if they log off with the weapon on them it disappears. I found one yesterday put it in my tent and its still there pulled it out and used it for a bit.

have you guys logged off with it on your person?

I am wondering this too. I found one yesterday put it in the tent because I had read a few people say that it saves in the tent. Its till there now.

Wait wait what? I thought it was all OP and game breaking according to reading the forums

Actually that is more realistic. I don't want to really throw realism around cause we are talking about Zombies. 20 people have them cause 20 people joined that server that have them. Only way to really satisfy your point would be to have everyone pick a server and be stuck on it with no hopping. Realistically if this happened where I'm stationed at and only 32 people where alive 20 people could have a 50 cal sniper rifle if they wanted they could have more assuming that they had the code to the arms rooms on base or the arms rooms where left open. They could also have tons of NVG's ,Tanks, 249's, AT4's, Grenades, and MRAP's too. Most just probaby wouldn't know how to use them.

Oh way to pick out the standard issue rifle part and poke at it lol. Guess what m107 can spawn in barracks gasp!!! AS50 is not the only 50.cal in the game Gasp!. If the 50.cal spawns in the barracks which it can then my post is relevant in the fact that there are military bases in the game. So the amount of 50.cals per server is not to much. You gotta do better than that man get your facts straight 50.cals don't only come from heli crashes in the game.

You know in real life a 50 cal sniper is pretty much a 1 shot 1 kill? Back story this area in ARMA 2 there are 2 opposing factions with military bases. Hence the military bases in the area. After the infected breakout. Its not cod people aren't just running around with them. I'm in the military my Armsroom has 5 50.cal emplacements not the snipers but the defensive version for gate points/camp points. Mmmm about 200 m16's. 20 m4's with holo sight, 9 M9's. Thats pretty much any military company basic load out. You know if you go 15 feet out the front door and then 10 feet to left into the other bay you know what you will find? The same thing!!!! You know how many companies are in my building? 6. You know how many are in the building next to my building? 6 etc If this scenario happened where I'm stationed it would be a ton of this stuff running around. I'm willing to bet all of my servers or your servers Chernarus doesn't have even half as many m16's on it that is on the base I'm stationed at. Example when I was stationed in Germany there where 100,000 soldiers there. You can guarantee that there where at a MINIMUM 100,000 M16's if you where to assume that everyone there was just a basic soldier and not infantry. Special forces is Stationed in Stuttgart, Germany. So you can imagine what goodies they have there. TLDR its not to many

Huh? Loot spawn rate has nothing to do with so many 50.cal cause there aren't so many 50.cals. Most people get them from server hopper snipers. Scenario- Joe Blow comes from UK 4 with his m107 to snipe on Chicago 5 he dies in the process by Chicago 5 normal sniper in cherno. Normal Chicago 5 sniper has 2 m107's. Though its not really the case most of the time but possible. When someone dies with a M107 or a AS50 people will risk death many times to get the gun from the body. I see a dude with a fal I might not even check it or just grab his tools and let the gun and body disappear. All I do is hunt heli crashes usually on foot but my route usually lets me check about 20 possible spots in about a hour on foot. I have seen 1 AS50 and that was yesterday I got it. I also have a 107 too. Usually snipers camp the same spots at the same places on every server so usually the geared sniper usually ends up with more gear. I play on the same server for the most part and I don't think there are to many people with 50.cals cause most don't bring them out unless they are specifically hanging in cherno or elektro to snipe. I know most of the of the people on the server that have them. 50.cals are going to be on snipers around Cherno, Elektro, Stary, NW airfield. That about it really, so thats 4 locations out of many across the map its just those have the most traffic. Go hang in berenzhino and you probably wont hear so many 50.cals.

Stop hanging out in Cherno and Elektro and go explore, then die, then explore then die again. Everytime you die you will learn from your experience. Most geared people don't even hang in Cherno and Elektro unless they are going for medical supplies or they're going to kill people that hang in Cherno and Elektro. Like after your first week or so of playing you don't fear Zombies as much anymore cause you learn to deal with them. People are what add the randomness and excitement. Just the other day we are leaving from a crash site and see a group of 5 headed to a crash site fire fight ensues. Thats randomness, and excitment thats what makes it so good because your in a lull and then boom instant action. TL&DR Stop hanging around cherno and elektro. Get your supplies to survive you don't even need a gun just a Axe you'll find a gun at a deer stand or barn on your way up north. Most people starting out learning to play press their luck staying in Cherno and Elektro far to long.

So is using 6updater/launcher safe now? Yes blah blah manual install I get it. I will read up on it tonight and will manual install in the future or just uncheck auto update in Six.

Fixed* The North is random. You could be up there for days and not die then some random shit happens and you get in fire fight. I go to the NW and stary daily. There is always something happening there. The majority of the Heli crast sites spawn up north especially around stary. OP don't tell me you never dropped 1 gun to pick up another so don't give me that a gun is a gun crap. Most people set up their camps up north. If you want to run around elektro and cherno with a short life expectancy then go ahead. I don't understand why you want to cause your doing the same thing . Running around to collect the same things just to die and go collect them again. In the end to each his own