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Unfortunately, the only aspect of this game that fleshed out at all Is the PvP. Here's a chart of all DayZ Gameplay options: Spawn ----> Acquire weapon ----> PvP Spawn ----> Acquire weapon ----> Kill Zombies ----> Get Bored and PvP Spawn ----> Acquire weapon ----> Go Scavenging for more Gear ----> Get Bored and PvP Spawn ----> Acquire weapon ----> Go Scavenging for more Gear ----> Survive in the wilderness indefinitely ----> Get Bored and PvP The entire reason why PvP is so prevalent in this game is literally "Idle hands are the devil's tools." Eventually, there's nothing else to do. And that usually means shooting at things that aren't AI.

Yeah! Who ever heard of guards/Soldiers in a War Game?

Care to actually post something to give your HOUR-LONG video some context?

See? Even better! Buying combined operations isn't necessary.

I actually break it down. See link in my sig. There are different reasons why PvP happens.

Many people go through Steam and get Arma II free, then buy the expansion for only 20.00.

Ummmm.... Not to be "that guy" but.... According to Please read this before creating a new thread

Really? Can you elaborate? Do you need to bind that to a key, or something, or is it a contextual command?

It's kind of ironic to think that players come here for a totally unique and different game, only to mindlessly PvP and turn it into every other deathmatch-style shooter out there.

Exactly. See the link in my sig. Not all Kills are equal: -Survival -Deathmatching -"teh lulz"/griefing.

Actually, this IS a Simulator... I haven't really delved into the controls much, aside from binding my Surrender Key. Can you actually drag another player around, or was this a bug/hacks?

I think that with the craziness that was the Steam Summer sale, where we regularly see new-ish games up to, like 75% off, it's disappointing to see that Arma II as old as it is was only 40% off during it's biggest sale. The growing popularity of this Mod happening at the same time as the Steam Summer Sale, was the makings of the Perfect Storm of getting as many people as possible playing this game! But alas... Opportunity missed.

False. The same could be said about mindless murdering and constant deathmatching. This game is a sandbox, meaning it is open to a variety of different playstyles. The problem that comes with PvP is (although it's generally just as much a valid playstyle as any other) it often has a bad habit of interrupting and imposing itself upon every other style of gameplay. It's sadly the nature of the beast, from a game-balance perspective.

Okay. serious question. What purpose DOES barbed wire serve, other than to annoy others? I mean the the whole point of wire is to protect/deny access. So.. are people complaining that this item is doing the exact thing it was designed for? Or is there some kind of unwritten rule or etiquette regarding deploying this item?

It's all about intent: I suspect most players don't mind PvP Elements. Banditry for survival is expected Banditry simply to play death-match is a hot-button issue. Banditry for "teh lulz" or simply to grief requires professional help, and possibly a warning sign for future anti-social behavior... also miniscule genitalia. See my Topic HERE. And also: You shouldn't make a rule unless you have the power to enforce it. Otherwise, you're asking for trouble, and you wont have a good time.

That must have been a real Pane in the Glass.

I think excessively high ping can get you kicked, if I'm not mistaken. How was your connection?

Did you actually just type that? Are you serious? Is he serious?

You have some beans. Anecdote time! I have a friend that... I love him to death, but simply doesn't understand the concept of "Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD." Case in point, we were foreigners in a foreign land. We weren't exactly experts on the culture. A nice person invited us to the mountains, where others like to hike for sight seeing. We kept noticing that in some spots, we would see rocks oddly stacked on top of each other like so: Now, Neither of us knew why these rocks were stacked. All we knew is there were bunches of them all over the place out in a beautifully scenic mountain area that people come to visit and see. These rocks could have been stacked by some bored kids, a dedicated monk trying to gain enlightenment about balancing his own life, students studying gravitational forces in high-altitudes, or a psychotic fucking sniper on the next peak over waiting for his next mark. No clue. I observe them with a bit puzzled amusement, wondering how easy it is do do that. My freind? He wanders over, looks at them for a moment, then casually lifts his leg forward and starts fucking knocking them over. Here we are, guests of a foreign country and he is knocking over mysterious structures. I have a horrified look on my face and he's like "What? It's not like it's behind a fence or something. No one's yelling at me..." Some people are just like that I guess.

Extremely flawed logic. Just because something isn't working correctly, does not negate it's existence.

I agree 100% But there *ARE* people out there that hand-wave that notion, rationalizing their cowardice, by saying "I'm a player, they're a player. Me killing them is, by definition, PvP."

Fanboys will always be fanboys. From alpha to abandonment. This game is alpha! Of course there will be bugs. This game is still in Beta! Of course there will be bugs. This game was just released, Of course there will be bugs. This game has a small development team! Of course there will be bugs. This game has a limited amount of resources to work with! Of course there will be bugs. This is an older game! Of course there will be bugs. This game has hardly any players left! Of course there will be bugs. But seriously, I think everyone has their own expectations of how good a game will be through development and eventual release. Some people are overly-forgiving about bugs on a finished product, others are way too critical.

Simulator is a Genre of game?

Thanks. Yeah, that's from Sarge. Oh, uh... Good point! I just kind of made a personal observation, came to the forums and started typing. I was hoping that this topic would be a platform for others. Maybe others can agree, disagree, disprove, post anecdotal evidence. Just "general discussion" type stuff.

Quite honestly, this is ridiculous. There is no need or reason to protest until the game leaves development. Do you know how idiotic it sounds to protest an alpha because it isn't working correctly???