InversionSR

Just reminding people this board is about coming up with constructive ideas of how to improve/progress the game. I seem to get a decent amount of rage on my posts saying how the game shouldn't change/move forwards and plenty of "man up " and "you noob" posts for suggesting we try to allow new players a chance to learn the game. I wish to remind anyone who reads this the forums are for constructive criticism, NOT over-compensating for the size of your genitalia and boasting. These actions are counter constructive in general. Before you post think am i giving an explanation as to why this is/isn't a good idea. Why do i personally get upset by the idea of changes that would add more noob players to the regular players of the servers. Hopefully this has gotten through to the people ive seen spamming other posts ie the spawn with a weapon petition http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=17309&page=4 which has got no end of rage and boasting etc on it from "hardcore" players. I personally think these players are morons if they feel the only way to help the game is to prevent any changes as this is still a alpha/beta mod and is still in production I consider myself privileged to play dayz and would like to see it grow. This requires constructive and innovative ideas and i wish to also thank the players posting constructively on the forums helping rocket and his group improve the game. Thanks Inversions :) People can also give rocket some slack as he isn't some all knowing, all seeing game God, hes a very skilled individual (FROM NEW ZEALAND ;) ) who is working on an impressive mod :)

Great! They might learn to get off the fucking coast. Better for them in the long run anyway. Ignorance is bliss!!! Yes, the mod is well on its way to half a million alpha testers and it's going to "die" because it doesn't serve up success on a silver platter to day one newbies on the bean coast. I love these proclamations of doom because the game is hard. Same shit they said about EVE: Online. Ten years ago. Lols ignorance, LOTS of mods have died Many bigger than this. The simple reality is yes the mod could "survive" for a while off its veteran players, until they get bored, but a steady stream of new players. Imagine if world of warcraft had made it so new players now had to reach lvl 50 to unlock the ability to fight back, the game wouldnt last long as new paleyrs would loose interest Anyway this isnt contructive go find some other forum to rage about noob etc on as this is supposed to be a constructive forum for the mod and you just seem to want to poke little holes and ignore the original post and the ideas im putting forwards!! :) have a nice day! Not true. When you respawn you already know where you are (game shows name of location) so you already know where you are. Map is small' date=' running speed is not realistic (it's too fast) and DayZ needs ACE mod to add fatigue system (otherwise you can sprint forever) so you need about 15-30 minutes to get to your buddy. Also such elements like terrain association, navigation, etc are park of the DayZ. You won't get any sort of HUD to tell you where you need to go. If you add option to spawn next to your buddy, game lost another it's unique feature and there will be no drawback for being lame and dying. -ME- LOL yeh for half a second it says on the bottom of the screana dn if you load a online map you may guess where you spawned. ... Doesnt really cover my idea of selecting spawn region or spawning on your friends squad and you still would be navigating after you met your friend, it wouldnt break the game.... Perhaps you should try playing this game with your friends to appreciate the frustrations of tryign to locate them especially if you/them are both new. As mentioned earlier game is not difficult if you know what you are doing and think about it. Weapons, food, water, other supplies are almost everywhere and zombies are easy to avoid. Most newcomers also make a huge mistake: they go straight to DayZ and play it. Imho it would be useful for them to play some ArmA 2 tutorials and learn about game and controls first. -ME- Ironically youtube is currently the only way for new players to have a chance if they dont jsut go back to americas aren't or another game. I appreciate your "pro" and have your running roots and know where good places to find weapons etc are but mosts noobs dont... And yes the controls help theres also the options->key bindings or whatever, but this doesn't really help you survive. In a response further down i suggested different difficulties on servers so you can have noob servers with spawn with pistols no pvp= survival based, middle servers melee, pvp. and hard for those who feel really Hardcore. On reflection your response is more a boast then anything constructive on how to make it so new players can join. -ME- http://dayzmod.com/index.php they put the average time on the webpage LOl its actually dropped, but still its there -ME- SO hopefully this has helped illuminate some stuff and prevent more dayz is the love of my life and you cant change a thing about him posts, not saying this is one but there are a few. Hopefulyl this has made some constructive ideas or at least made people think of ways to Improve the game Sorry if you feel singled out dude but i actually do this to everyone who doesnt make any suggestions about constructive changes :) hope this doesnt ruin your day

50% damage increase!! YEHA COWBOYS!!! nah that seems excessive. still decent point about advantaging each of them issue is if you advantage both then how big/small do you make it as 50% is pretty crasy, neway interesting new idea

Sounds like fun, gives you more choices than death by bandit or death by zombies and gives an end game objective ie defend/ assault reclaimed towns, maybe make 2 sides bandits and survivors who can capture/raid strongholds. So a town could be held by any of the above 3. Maybe these places could have places to eat/recieve medical care, drink (but not take it with you) there is an issue of capturing all towns would mean less ammo/weapons spawns though. Also perhaps make zombie counter attacks on captured towns after random time periods in varying numbers, creating a need to deploy barbed wire and set defenses. add in a zombie defense and town capture stats to the stats bar.

Why not use regions, ie spawn on north east coast, east coast, inland etc. maybe make the map into say 9 chunks at least youd know roughly where you are as its AMAZINGLY HARD TO PLAY WITH FRIENDS as YOU CAN NEVER FIND THEM.

I like bikes :)

YAY!!! Someone who thought it through before posting Definitly right in the first bit, 2nd bit maybe make it so theres more variation in the skins etc and that any player can find/equip a guille/camo etc. but theres also some average clothes you can spawn as and then work you way up by humanity based actions to unlock skins. Also if your a medic but get too little humanity ie decide to be a bandit it will change you skin and youll loose the unlocked skin and gain a bandit skin (skins being separate un-drop-able items) ^Only problem with this is apparently thier removing the bandit skin as bandits didnt like people being able to tell that they were going to shoot them.

NOTE: i wasn't really after guns as a solution more so melee weapons as you can run away from a player, but its slighly harder to run from an inaccurate pistol or the zombie horde at the moment. Also guns arent really penaty free as choosing to use ur gun to save urself uses up ur ammo and attracted zombies, so the incentive to sneak was still there Sigh hate when people do this multiple posts thing as it makes it take longer to reply. the point was more that this is constructive/stuff they can work on. However there are some decent responses raised and some places where you seem to ahve missed the point so ive marked my bits with a -ME- Sorry guys this may be a little confusing to read over Well you're right about that. Fortunately I used a map on my cellphone from day one. "GPS" if you will, lol. But then if you have the map at the start, the game loses some of it's mystique at the beginning and don't have to find a map. -ME- Arent you meant to find a gps/map? Also my point is more about spawning not about maps, i don't care if i don't have a map i brought this game to play with my friends and its epically hard to find each other Hmm, I believe this is because if you have a weapon at the start you just start hacking everything, die, rinse repeat. Now that you don't have any means of defense, that means you have to sneak around atleast a little until you get hold of something. Even if you've been playing for a while already. -ME- melee weapon.... good for a few kills but you take a lot of hits and so you burn through bandages. So you still have to sneak like you do now/ did with a gun... unless you intend to fight all the zombies in a village with an axe... in which case good luck to you Rocket/DayZ Team has said that one of their biggest challenges is to make the game easy enough for noobs, hard enough for the more experienced ones? I would like to see servers having different difficulty settings, so noobs could go on an easy/regular server and learn a bit of the game. Then, when they think that they've gotten the basics they could move on to a more difficult one. But the problem here is, one starts at a noob server where PvP is limited, loots all the great rocket launchers, AWS, ghillies and what not and hops on to a hardcore server, so this would need to be countered somehow? Perheaps low high-end loot drops on easier servers, and normal on the difficult ones? Also, I'd like to see a feature that forces the player to commit to 1-3 servers. But the problem here is, there's so many players and so many different servers so you would probably have to queue for a looooong while. -ME- Nit-picking.... um so store the server saves separately for different difficulties and itll solve server hopping - theres a solution that actually really does solve both what rocket said and your issue with server hopping :) aren't i clever Glad you agree with the idea :) , not sure if commiting to 1-3 servers as my net can suck at times and i cant play on my normal servers, but can play on other no (max ping = 100) servers. - So this appears to be a good idea hint hint rocket :) I KNO RITE?! This game needs dynamicism though. Right now it's just here is safe, there is dangerous, there is no loot, here is loot. Oh zombies, run around. Rinse repeat. Danger/safety should be everywhere, not just the one static spots. See the links in my signature. -ME- :), and actually yeh to some of this im just suggesting a learning curve to assist new players into the mod with the pvp sugegstions Well, you leave it there. I'll just leave this here... -ME- Hehe No theres some useful points raised so ill answer them +1

That is most definitely NOT the reason rocket gave when he implemented this. I hate when people just throw shit out like this with no basis in reality' date=' quote, or citation to base it on. They took your starting weapon away to see what happened. That's all. He wasn't trying to influence behavior one way or the other. It was just an experiment to see what effect it would have on the game. My experience? The coast is far safer and quieter. Fewer makarov rounds going off. Fewer dead bodies/flies. Fewer fire fights. It's most scared survivors looking for guns. Neat stuff. As for the difficulty of starting out, it's extremely easy. Go to farm buildings, get a weapon, voila. Not hard. [/quote'] You may want to do some research first. he actually didn't say hardcore exactly just they felt the start was too easy for experienced players and they wondered if removing the weapon would force teamwork, which it hasn't, so the original intent was all about weapons. LOL at fewer makarov rounds going off as now its just the sound of people cussing in chat about having no weapon. Now its just the noise of yankee sax (see youtube) as survivers run along the beach followed by zombies. Most new players are unlikely to be overly successful at locating a farm building along the coast. And without any lenience for new players the mod will die Also scared survivors looking for guns isn't hard to kill if your a bandit like the one mentioned above farming player kills but you should try re-spawning first and getting first hand experience before you comment. Personally ur comment pissed me off as you don't appear to have read through the post above

Main issue is how tio balance this an empty AK47 is say is 3 kg or 4kg loaded, so it would be easy to farm and carry 4 ak47s at 12kg or 1 ak and 9 ak mags, but actually carrying 4 aks is pretty clumsy to do

You do realize you can throw bottles and cans, right? Yeh i actually found that out an hour ago on youtube. i thought the cans may be jst troll/dud loot

Got to agree here, how else will new players be able to learn on thier own without a weapon. but loot spots are luck of the draw, ie me and a friend started, i got a small town he got a barn, my town had 1 hatchet in it and 3 different mags and some food, his barn had a double barrel, winchester, ammunition bandages and roadflares. So its not as simple as finding a weapon in your first loot pile and then being set for life

Spose a lot of this is probably elsewhere im just grouping it up so it doesnt get hidden behind all the "game needs to be more hardcore"