Keshik

Server hop some more and come crying on the forums every time you're kicked for server hopping.

vilayer seems to have pretty good customer reviews. Pretty sure the "hive" isn't jacked up for them

Sounds like a server hopper. I'm quite glad you didn't get any items off of his corpse. Optimally you should have been kicked before you even got the kill, but you lucked out on that. Keep server hopping for your items, maybe you'll get that AS50 from some other dude you happen to spawn on. Hopefully he's not an admin and you can cheat the system more.

Point two: Spawns in airport on a server with 1 player on it. Then he said it was dark and needed a flashlight to see the guy he killed so no NVGs. In order to need a flashlight to be able to see a corpse on the ground it must have been really dark even w/ gamma all the way up. He said he had to drop a 1911 to pull out the flashlight so it obviously wasn't equipped previously. This leads me to assume that he wasn't running around much prior. Sounds like server hopping to me.

And the fact that he specifically had to say that he was sitting there for a few minutes. People who don't server hop wouldn't even think about having to say that. edit: server logs would be cool to see though. If he's legit then blacklist the server because that's bullshit. I've had it happen to me before while biking around looking for helicopter spawns. Killed an admin at a crash site and all of a sudden the server reboots. I never thought to report it though, just never bothered to go back there.

Let the server admin know to check the logs.

Sound like you were server hopping and lucked out with a kill. If so, glad you were kicked from the server. If you were legitimately on the server and got the kill, then blacklist this shit.

If you do that, you'll have people gearing up on PVE servers then moving to PVP servers. If you lock your choice permanently, then you'll run out of things to do. Once you get the good loot, you're left with nothing to do. Edit: then of course, you'll still have the trolls join the non-pvp servers and troll people trying to survive in the methods I described in a previous post. They are:

Some people just want to watch the world burn. In a sandbox game, you have to allow for that - and prepare for it. Perhaps I've been lucky, but I haven't ran into very many people that do that. The majority of people I run into are as scared of me as I am of them and it usually ends well over direct voice communication.

I don't know - I can't speculate on what this guy's intentions were in telling you that and playing a different way. All that I can comment on is that, in my opinion, the game can be played multiple ways and isn't only about "deathmatch" until you get to a certain point in gear. What my night normally consists of is hopping on with some friends, getting in a vehicle and driving around looking for crashed helicopters. We'll attempt to kill anything we see on the way around the map. Once we've gone around the map, we might hit up the NW airfield and loot it or camp it to kill people coming there from the south for gear or server hoppers. Sitting on the hill top in Electro with an AS50 and ghillie suit killing people with Makarovs is, in my opinion, lame. However, where do you place rules in an area without rules? Where do you draw the line? If you start implementing rules in some places where does it end? I don't know... I've been a long time Eve Online player so I really enjoy the sandbox of this game. I can appreciate it more than someone with no experience with a sandbox style game.

You're right, anyone can kill anyone at any point in time. But once you get the gear there is nothing else to do BUT kill others.

Thing is, once you get gear there is really nothing else to do in game besides kill other players. Once you get the items to hunt animals and get some canteens, it's impossible to die from hunger or thirst. After you go through the barracks a few times and hit up some heli crashes, there is nothing left to upgrade. There is zero reason to go into any city for upgrades. You might have to go into a city every once in a while looking for vehicle parts but that's about it. This just leads to roving bands of people looking to kill other players for sport. Be it finding other bandits to kill or just survivors looking for gear. Even if you die, you and your buddies have a camp set up with multiples of everything. All you need to do on character creation is just head to camp to re-gear. There is zero replayability in the game unless you go hunting for other people. I'm not going to lie and say that I kill other people to upgrade gear or to play the part of a "real bandit" because that's not the case. I'm sure there are some on this forum that will say that the end-game is not a deathmatch (though that is not a real applicable term when comparing it to real deathmatch modes in games like Quake). However, there is a lot more thrill and adrenaline when killing others (not the newbie spawns on the beach) in this game as you have the potential to lose everything. The heart beats faster and it really is more exciting than another war-based FPS. There are videos that Sacriel42 does on youtube that really display this feeling. Tracking a couple people for 20 minutes hoping to kill them while constantly worrying about getting outflanked or other people attracted by the sound of gunfire. Sure, it sucks for people on their first few survivor characters (and it sucked when I first started playing), but if you punish or remove this gameplay aspect, you'll lose a large playerbase. The thing is, this is the gameplay that everyone will reach at some point in time. By removing it or punishing it, you are essentially limiting everyone to a few playthroughs at most. Also, if it's removed, you will have less (or no) people inhibiting your ability to get to "end-game" thus compounding the problem. TL;DR: In the current state of the game, you cannot remove the PVP or even limit it. If you want to tone it down some, then you need to replace it with something else to do once you have the gear and vehicles.

If a troll knew you couldn't do anything about him when you're both playing survivors, he could ruin your gaming experience far more than simply shooting you. Loot your tents and take your vehicles with immunity. Make a lot of noise and keep pulling zombies onto you, eventually getting you killed. A few could stand in the doorways of a building you're in and keep you and your friends trapped. Run up to you and empty your backpack into theirs. A team of bandits could use a "survivor" buddy to stay with you and track your movements. Think you're creeping thru the woods? Not when you have some random troll following you around standing up and making noise. There are a hundred ways someone with immunity to you could make your game experience more miserable than simply shooting you.

What happens when I choose the survivor "faction" then go on a killing spree?

Thing is, there isn't much else to do after you get geared up besides to go and find people to kill.