Tigerhawk71

I don't see why people are suggesting a logout timer longer than 30 seconds. 20-30 seconds is fine. I'm sorry but a longer time.. like a 7 minute timer (whoever suggested that?!) is pointless. You tie up the server for 7 minutes. What a waste of resources. You think people want to sit around waiting for 7 minutes so they don't lose all their shit? 7 minutes? 30 seconds is fine. If you can't find and kill your target in 30 seconds after they seek cover you were either lucky you hit them in the first place or firing at them from the next town over, in which case you likely weren't going to loot them yourself anyway. And if you have a mate to pick up the scraps, surely he can clean up what you started in 30 seconds. This is all assuming they freak out and go to log out the second you hit them (which they won't, because they're still in your line of fire) Firm grasp on the concept of time, please.

Cherno is the place i only go on a fresh spawn. Why bother risking it when you can find stuff in places that aren't Cherno with less of the risk?

Here's a summary of my experience today: Survivin' it up with a mate, walking along (no we're not in cherno or elektro or by an airfield, we're inland) and while running near (but not on) a road, someone shoots at both of us. My friend gets KO'd with a broken leg, i get clipped, sprint through some bushes and across the road - loop around the bushes the shots came from, find the guy and give him a slug enema. He dies, i bandage myself up. we loot his shit, patch ourselves up and move on - one of us was below the random KO level, so we were hunting animals with the matches so generously provided by the asshole who shot at us. Another guy runs up with a zombie, shouting friendly. I shoot the zombie and he runs behind a bush shouting not to shoot him.. i lose a visual on him, so i don't shoot him and we move out quickly so he doesn't shoot at us. A minute later, i see him heading towards us/following us. He asks us to use a blood pack on him. I call him over, with us both looking at him... Transfused his head with my shotgun, took the blood pack, patched up my friend. His tears of rage on side chat were hilarious. Moved on to a town, hearing gunshots - we see a guy run into a barn, circle it.. i see him on the stairs, so i put a shot into his back. He didn't even know we were there, probably thinks the Zombie did it. We loot all his shit (guy was LOADED, had an Alice Pack too). We move out from there, and are being sniped from the hillside nearby by two people (different gunshot sounds, same direction, similar times) Take some damage but slip away. That's basically how this game plays. Of the people i've met i don't know in real life, only 2 of them haven't tried to kill me on sight because they wanted something. I shot one of them because he had something we needed. The other ones never saw me, but were armed and i'm not taking that chance. Put in whatever morality system you want. Short of killing people for killing too many other people, nothing about this will change. Ever.

OH SHIT, SOMEBODY WHO PLAYS DAYZ UNDERSTANDS A SIMPLE CONCEPT! WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING!? Seriously though, i can see why this game has so many problems with people just deathmatching and other dumb shit, when out of everyone so far only one guy i have seen has managed to grasp this concept properly - it's too dark under some conditions. Not many people like it - servers being almost entirely empty after dark is an indicator there is a design problem that you can't just ignore... like some people here are trying REALLY HARD to do. Allow me to provide an example: Open thread, skip to page 44, canned response of no value. Well done. You'll really help develop the game by responding to everything someone says with "man up"..

It occurs to me that the phrases "post is a fantastic and valid point" and "you're a fucking idiot." are mutually exclusive. Perhaps the reason I 'spouted' tht phrase several times is that I find these people incredibly frustrating and hence I wanted to be quite damning. I am not "a fucking idiot" and your haste to label me as such suggests that conversely it is you who is the idiot and flaming. I don't know, i didn't think it was a difficult concept to grasp that the point of your post was fine but your wording makes you look like a complete tool. But clearly your pseudo-intellectual ways are far above my level of understanding. But i digress, this is the internet after all and you're just another tool in this shed.

Honestly it doesn't mater what system you put in, there's a core problem that remains. People will shoot anyone they see who is armed, as a preventative measure. If you don't, that's probably because the other guy shot you while you thought about it. The bandit system wasn't working for one reason - you went from thinking that armed people will probably try and kill you to KNOWING people would try and kill you, making the decision to pull the trigger even easier... Until you can actively address that problem, then no bar or scoring, skin or morality system is going to work. That said, your concept is interesting.

If you kick people from a server so your gay lov- er, clanmates can join then you're not obeying the rules, are you? Oh no, i better not run into you in-game, i might become simply over-run by the sheer amount of indifference i feel towards your hollow attempts at insults and aggression.

Note how i didn't state i have a connection problem (I don't.) And how i'm the only person who seems to not be just talking about myself and nobody else. For reference' date=' i'm on an fibre connection (You know, the big round cables that shoot light down them?) Probably faster than most people, always on, with equipment that isn't older than the internet itself. I specfically have no connection issues (except when the actual server itself dies, and given i run VOIP while playing it becomes quite obvious when the point of failure is not local) but that everyone throwing up random numbers of time waiting and locking you into servers is going to accomplish precisely nothing. There's simply more important things to do than try and add some arbitrary time delay. And adding a time delay won't just automagically solve everything in one go. Well i had a better suggestion than yours. What was yours again? You didn't post anything of actual value to the discussion just now, so it's hard to tell... wasnt even talking to you fucktard Sorry dude, reading this at work, wasn't really paying attention.

Note how i didn't state i have a connection problem (I don't.) And how i'm the only person who seems to not be just talking about myself and nobody else. For reference' date=' i'm on an fibre connection (You know, the big round cables that shoot light down them?) Probably faster than most people, always on, with equipment that isn't older than the internet itself. I specfically have no connection issues (except when the actual server itself dies, and given i run VOIP while playing it becomes quite obvious when the point of failure is not local) but that everyone throwing up random numbers of time waiting and locking you into servers is going to accomplish precisely nothing. There's simply more important things to do than try and add some arbitrary time delay. And adding a time delay won't just automagically solve everything in one go. Well i had a better suggestion than yours. What was yours again? You didn't post anything of actual value to the discussion just now, so it's hard to tell...

Honestly there's no fix for this that doesn't catch up anyone who has a connection problem (And given the shitty stability of some servers at the moment, that's kindof a big deal). Rockets current system of detecting people who are rapidly connection and disconnecting is fine for the most part. But people have lives (some of us) and there's a real world out there. If i happen to get spotted when i need to log out to go to work or do something important, i don't feel like i should be locked into *arbitrary time delay or other penalty* just so Doucheballs Mc BanditFace is also unable to avoid dying because he finally got what was coming to him. It may be something they can work in later (and if you can allow certain areas perhaps to be "safe zones" for instant logout if you INSIST on adding a time delay) then maybe it'll work. But right now there's too much instability and too many bugs to be focused on such a stupid little thing. Most of you death dodgers are losing all your shit due to tent/vehicle save bugs anyway.

My point is that if nobody is playing it except for "REAL MEN™" Like yourself, then it's clearly a problem that needs to be addressed. Your post has something in common with a blowdryer in DayZ - it's totally fucking irrelevant.

Anyone associated with a clan is forbidden from hosting a server - punish clans who skimp past this and kick people (the 5%) by blacklisting the server. That way they'll learn to behave, and we can all be friends. <3 Seems like a straightforward fix to me. As long as a clan isn't being assholes, they get to have their fun within the available player slots... and so does everyone else.

Yeah, i lost patience with other people when i was first murdered. Since then everyone i don't know is shoot on sight. It's not a case of me thinking it's CoD or some shit, it's a case of "you people are assholes, i'm not a walking loot bag, fuck you all". Why risk it, when it's easier to just shoot people. The difference is i didn't server hop to find a CZ and sit around waiting for people to kill for giggles, i'm just out there trying to enjoy the experience, and the only way it will be ruined by another player is if they kill me before i kill them.

Pitch black, can't see shit, is no fun. It's not even a case of "manning up". It's a case of you don't leave the lights off in a friends house for the thrill of the experience, you turn on the fucking lights or find a light source so you don't trip over absolutely fucking everything. I love playing in the twilight, with the moon out... it's dark and hard to see, but you can make out basic shapes and movement. When it hits pitch black, servers empty quickly. Most people do not like pitch black. At 11PM here, when the servers in my timezone get pitch black, you go from barely being able to log into a server because they're all full, to seeing them practically abandoned. You can either listen to the small handful of people who think it's fine that way because they either have NVG or are trying to see how tough they can sound, or you can look at the server stats. Servers go pitch black, most people leave. And for the GENIUS who suggested flares and chemlights, yes, you can use those - if you want to get shot.

SPAWN ME WITH A GOD DAMNED CROWBAR, OR A HATCHET, OR A PAIR OF BRASS KNUCKLES, A STICK WITH AN ANGRY WORM ON IT, I DON'T CARE. I get why guns were removed (this was before my time, but people think this is Twattlefield or Modern Borefare and try to just be all deathmatchy and shit) But fuck me if i'm not sick of having no way to defend myself. Seriously. Give me a damn melee weapon. Please. Otherwise the biggest problem in the game becomes getting a weapon without being caught by a zombie or a player who already has one. If you get caught by one zombie (easy given they are programmed to shamble your way) you're dead with no weapon, and you have two options. Respawn until you luck out, or get up and use the only method of defense you have - putting one foot infront of the other, then putting the other foot infront of that one, rapidly until you find a mountain high enough to lose them on. I can see why the average lifespan is 30 minutes - I can almost guarantee most of the deaths inside that time are people attempting to find a way to defend themselves or get started. That's how long it takes on average to find a town, find a house that isn't just useless scenery, find a loot spawn that isn't in mid-air, not find a weapon, get caught by a zombie and hit respawn to save wasting more time, or to find you have no food or water. Or to go into a town hoping to have an easy time finding some starting gear and getting killed for giggles. The permadeath is fine. I have no issues with that. It makes people twitchy, and it's the reason i'll shoot anyone armed that i see, if i happen to be armed (and politely inform them i have nothing of value to take if i don't, because i usually dont). But having NOTHING to defend myself with is detracting from the experience.

I only recently started playing DayZ. The potential in this game is absurd, in a good way. Throwing in my two cents (don't care much for the hardcore/softcore/etc crap, just honest player opinion) on the subject of night time.. Without NVG, in the current state of the game, once it gets dark enough, you literally can't see shit. It's impossible to accomplish anything with zero vision. Yes it's scary as fuck to be running through a forest with your real world lights off, headset on, pitch black with zombies on your heels.. But if you just spawned and have nothing, it's a shit experience. The reason you find empty servers at night is because anyone who dies will just disconnect, prodding around in the dark is simply not fun. That said, ~9PM server time a few days ago, that twilight period where you can make out the lay of the land, there's enough light to see shapes, but not enough to make out detail... that was the best experience i've had on a DayZ server to date. Sneaking into Cherno which of course is overrun with assholes. The thrill of sneaking around in the twilight to scrounge up supplies and then being SNIPED AT AS I LEFT was fantastic (yes, even being sniped at. Mostly because he missed. Three times.) If the map was pitch black, i'd have been totally lost, and using my flashlight in a town is basically painting a target on my head, so that option is out - so when it gets late, i just log off. There's just no enjoyment in walking around in the pitch black with ZERO vision. It's also unrealistic unless we're simulating a 12 hour eclipse every night. But yeah.. mostly not enjoying the pitch black.