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In game name is Elliott the black. I too am sick of all the hackers, its fucking out of control. The server I play on has 24hr active admins and still can barely keep them out. over 1700+ bans in less then a month. I have a group of 6 or so people that play regularly and all we want is a hack free server, although Im starting to thing that doesnt exist....:( I play as a scavenger/bandit. Usually roll in groups of 3 to 4 hunting heli crashes and raiding towns.

I have a team of about 6 players that would love to try the server out. We currently play on a private hive iwth pretty active admins, but the hackers are just out of control and its driving away the player base. Would love to try your server out and play with some more mature players. Most of our group is at least 25 or so. I myself have been playing FPS games since the original Wolfenstein haha. You can contact me through PMs on this forum or email [email protected]. We are really looking forward to playing with you guys. :) edit: I just played on the "test server" and encountered two hackers. One took an entire clip of m14, then spawned a heli and flew off. The other took 4 shots with a CZ550 and half a clip of AK, then shot through the walls. I wont be returning to the test server... Someday ill be able to play this game without cheaters.....SIGH.

...dude I'm ALL about maturity here. Napoleon. If you're gonna loot Stary, you need my permission. ;-) (not sure if the dude near novy was with you but he got lucky or was killed, we all got kicked by battleye as I was firing at him so I dunno.) Who's next?

LIke I said before, we dont have anything against TG as whole. In fact, a lot of TG guys are pretty cool that I talked to in your teamspeak (before I got banned from it for...what exactly?) and while we are on the subject of bad apples, I stumbled across this little gem while taking a leisurely cruise in a red sedan I stole from you: I was kind of shocked tbh, I talked to sarge a few times and he seems like a good dude. Really friendly. Who knows.... and just to keep it lively, I also snapped this unforgettable Kodak moment. Remember kids, always make sure to check your surroundings when there is a shiny chopper flying circles over you...

Not sure which of you i sniped in Electro earlier that day, and yes, I got a little hasty when I saw that Hilux sitting there... good show. curious though, posing next to my body with no murders or bandit kills... interesting.... and what did you take those screenshots with? it looks like the same camera used for the grainy lochness monster footage back in the 70s

On behalf of our group, I would like to thank Apophis for his time and diligence in reviewing the logs and clearing our names. We will consider the matter closed and I will withdraw our admin abuse report. We will see the rest of you lot on the fields of Chernarus very soon... ;-)

If we were hackers why would we make such a big deal out of this? Honestly. The childish speculation has gone on long enough. Arma script is stupidly simple and I've been designing games since Duke Nukem 3D and Quake. So if its too "technical" for you, I'll be happy to tell you what it means.

Of course I cannot PROVE who restarted the server, or who's tents we found. I can only make educated assertions based on the evidence I've seen. For example, we check the bodies of the dead when we were engaged at a VERY remote camp. They were TG, so does that mean we were raiding a TG base? Well I guess its possible they just HAPPENED to be in the middle of the woods at night with few people on the server. But its high unlikely. Its just a logical thought path based on basic observation. Also, your explanation still does not cover the fact the we heard an admin in your teamspeak talking about our conduct. We know who some of the admins are in the teamspeak and it wasn't that hard to understand what was going on in the conversation about us. I really don't see how these kinds of things can be misinterpreted as creating a strawman to justify our claims. As for the hacking allegations, I really don't know where that is coming from. Anyone caught hacking on your server is NOT associated with our group. We observed a hacker in Novy and promptly reported it, as well as another teleporting hacker who I suspect was in your teamspeak. No I can't PROVE that either, but a friend of ours discussed it with Wicks and he was made aware of it. I do not expect any admin to confront a hacker, just ban them. But since we do not hack, there should be no reason for a blanket ban on us. Furthermore, you said yourself that your players were displeased with our conduct and wanted us banned. I assumed that meant in regards to our play style, so I would expect an admin to initiate a dialog based on that; not a hacking claim. I would like to know where all this hacking bullshit is coming from, because it sounds to me like that is YOUR "straw man" with it being an assumption and not actually provable or substantiated in any way.

Actually I had no idea you called a camp walmart, but lots of people say that about loot piles so your deduction skills elude you there, Sherlock. As for mkaing half page posts about a TG conspiracy and exploiting glitches. We HEARD you say it on your teamspeak first hand, we didn't make it up out of thin air or try to carefully construct a story. Its a fact. I wasn't going to bring up ghosting accusations as they have nothing to do with us being banned, but we had a mole in your teamspeak one day when a group of you were sniping in Cherno (its amazing what people are willing to do for an L85 and a guille suit. :-) .) Our group took out your sniping positions several times and we heard 2 members tell everyone else in the teamspeak they were going on another server to gain position on us. So don't tell me its bullshit. You know damn well some of your guys are less than honorable players. If any admins want the names of these players I can give them to you. But I really don't want this to distact from the topic of our bans, as I don't really care about some people cheap tactics. Can't hide from my AS50 even with your bs ghosting moves.

Apophis, Its nice to hear a mature response to the accusations made against TG by our group. I can assure you that I have not misrepresented our activities or the activities observed on your server in any way while playing on US 137. Additionally, I did make blanket statements about TG as a whole and for that I apologize. I am referring only to the majority of your active DayZ player base that we encounter when we play on US 137. We in fact have our own server and are extremely vigilant when it comes to banning hackers and disconnecters. Yes there are times when we suspected people of hacking because they seemed to know the location of everything and were going on massive killing sprees. But unless we had solid 100% proof of hacking or exploiting, we didn't ban them. This is DayZ and its a small sandbox world. Experienced players know where to look and experienced groups can decimate a server in a matter of hours. These are things you already know. TG may not have a "main camp" but there were several very large camps that we can only assume are maintained by the dominant clan on the server. Also, during the initial raids, it was only us and TG members on the server with perhaps 3 or 4 non-tagged players. So it would stand to reason that when were fired on whilst raiding a large camp, it was a TG camp. What exactly was observed that was a bannable offense? We do not disconnect during firefights EVER. In fact, Fidel and I have been playing on this server for a long time and have had several times where we were bested by you guys. We left with our tails between our legs and lived to fight another day. I don't understand what your members could be basing these ban claim on to start with. YES we raided camps. YES we shot and killed many TG members. YES we kept sniper positions on camps and vehicles. YES we hunted down players in the woods for sport. While this may not be your play style, these are not bannable offenses by any stretch of the imagination. If anything, our rivalry should make the whole DayZ experience more fun for you. We always joke about the DayZ lacking endgame, but then we realized that for some players, beating our group and killing us would be the endgame. So this keeps the whole experience fresh and exciting. If you are accusing us of hacking or cheating, I would LOVE to see some server logs for that since there is no way they can exist. I was banned in the middle of the day when I wasn't even on the server. Same with some others. We even have one guy you banned who only just started playing and doesnt even group with us on missions. He just asks us questions and runs around on the coast getting killed a lot. What was the reason for that? He is of no threat to you and is definitely not a hacker. He barely knows how to use a compass, lol. That was really crossing the line imo, because that shows you issued bans to everyone in our teamspeak as he was not wearing clan tags. The teamspeak we use is actually owned by a group of players who mostly play BF3. All of this being said... we STILL have not been given a real reason for the bans. Just generalisations dancing around broad strokes. No real proof. Where are the screenshots? Where are the videos? Where are the server logs? From where I am sitting it appears the bans are based on hearsay from upset players. As an admin you should have confronted us first if you suspected foul play. You know as well as I do that everyone is quick to point the hacking finger when they get killed or robbed. TG members are no exception, especially when you have members with questionable credibility and honor; alt-f4s, server restarts, etc. Given the disorganized nature of your DayZ division, perhaps you should consider who let wear your clan tags. I will be posting a ban appeal on your forums to have our bans removed. But am going to keep our admin abuse report open as well because I still believe we have been wronged and I want this to be investigated. Its getting almost impossible to find a server with legit admins anymore and I am just plain sick of the bs most of the admins give us. We were banned from a server the other day because the admin was too incompetent to read his own server logs. Banned 20+ people for things he misread in the logs and crap he skimmed on forums. If you are truly dedicated to running a legit server, you will investigate your own admins and check your logs against our players yourself. I would not be making such big deal out of this if it wasn't justified.

Not much to say that hasn't already been said here concerning your childish and poorly thought out rebuttal. I can offer a small piece of advise though: Check your corners, travel in groups, or continue to take arrows to the knee. No one likes whiny little baby. If this were a movie theater, you would be in the parking lot already. oh and kudos for not DCing in a firefight, but you know damn well most of TG members DC and ghost. It happens almost every time! We usually don't engage without AS50s or M107s so they don't have a choice. Maybe some more of your members should read the primer. and for the record: Orbit4l is the only person on your server that I've seen with any talent and he doesn't DC. But he doesn't even wear TG tags. I wonder why he's just a regular and not a member?

I wouldn't count on a response from these guys either way. They are cowards and will continue to operate inside their little bubble of bullshit. At least until we get a moderator to look into this. The evidence is pretty substantial and I would be surprised if nothing is done. I would like to extend a personal challenge to ANY TG admin or ranking member to actually own up to your wrongs. TG clearly has a manpower advantage and it should be easy for them overpower a small group like us. It blows my mind that a group of "adult gamers" with an active player base of 20+ members wouldn't try to take on a group of 6 or 7 people. The only reason they keep the server so "hardcore" is no one can see their constant firefight disconnects and duping methods.

A group of us that play on this server (US 137) organized a large raid focused on raiding camping and finding vehicles. We found numerous (poorly hidden) bases all along the edge of the map along with many vehicles. We did this late at night, with few people on the the server. We found so many tents we had to set up our own base and begin ferrying the loot via the vehicles. This went on for a period of ~2 days. During this time, we encountered resistance a few times from the TG members and we prevailed; escaping with the loot. However, when the admins discovered that we had raiding their bases and taken their vehicles, they attempted to restart the server many times in order to regain their gear. We made sure to save tents after we raided them and save vehicles every time we exit them to prevent them from exploiting. We didnt take kindly to this misuse of server control, but we ignored it and kept playing. We also witnessed many TG members disconnect during firefights and ghost to gain position. These guys are mostly cowards (save for a few) when it comes to real combat, always disconnecting. After all this, we initiated a server wide man hunt for TG players, recruiting others and moving in teams to highly populated, high risk areas; and also known TG bases. Many will pay for the mistakes of a few. We tried to log in today and continue and all our members are banned. We are not cheaters, and we got everything legit. After everything we have seen from these guys its not too surprising that they would rather ban us than try to take us out. We also had one of their members tell us they overheard a convo on their teamspeak about how they were going to ban us for "not playing in the spirit of DayZ", and made an analogy about us saying "its like we were walking up to two people playing chess and knocking over the board." That may be so, but maybe you should be guarding your base like a "tactical gamer" instead of leaning on server power. It appears to me that only people actually playing the game correctly (and rather tactically to boot) is us. We would like disciplinary action taken against these server admins, this sort of behavior is unacceptable. The spirit of the game is not determined by a sore player who lost his camp and got shot. Welcome to DayZ, "tactical gamers." Below are screenshots of some of our members bans. Will post more later when they get online. We also may have fraps of some of the pvp disconnects and the server restarts. I will find out soon. http://i.imgur.com/Q3Tsn.png http://i.imgur.com/RDmRx.jpg http://i.imgur.com/c39H6.jpg http://imageshack.us/f/96/arma2oa2012080519110140.png/

I just saw 5 or 6 guys in military clothing (not Dayz clothes of any kind) spawning crates in a feild south of stary. They didnt see me so I shot all of them with my AS50. Then one came back to life and tried to engage. I left the server before they could get me but they had massive crates and items all over the ground. if that was your group. fuck you. die. ;-)

Well I have been re-banned for some reason. again. just minding my business at the airfeild. This is getting pretty ridiculous. I like this server because we have had some epic battles... most notably Heli vs. UAZ. and Devil's Castle vs. Heli. But seriously, I shouldn't have to explain myself and/or the game to an admin who doesn't understand what he is looking for in the logs. Whatever, I'm over it... I'll just take my peeps elsewhere if I stay banned. oh and Horton, that was me and my group that had the heli shooting at you :-) Those m249 did mess it up a little bit, we had to land and fix a main rotor but we keep repair parts on it. Sadly, its been crashed by one of our less competent pilots. So happy hunting for it when its back. Assuming I am unbanned. Good times.