I'm really sick of the occasional high horse riding user that calls people with legitimate arguments about a BUG "noobs" as if he/she is some what superior to them because they just can't comprehend how this actually causes the game to be less enjoyable to the majority. Let me guess, you have full gear. Correction, everyone arguing the new update is great has full or good gear, or a big group. Ok guys, lets make a wager: Start a new character (instructions can be found) and spawn clean, now survive for more than an hour. Go on, then lets see you praise this already clarified to be GLITCHED, BUGGED update that won't remain this way due to the fact that it's BROKEN. Yes, greater number are good, but: a) 30 zombies near a barn makes no sense and kills immersion. Why on earth are there 30 zombies standing still doing nothing in an empty barn? Immesion: broken b) Spawn times. So within a couple of minutes, BAM, 30 more zombies just teleported? c) Use stealth: sure, if the stealth mechanic worked, and zombies seeing you through walls didn't exist. d) Impossible situation: Got 90 zombies on you? Not the 1% of players with stupid amounts of ammo and a group? Die OR glitch the game with the hill-drop. Conclusion: Most people are complaining about factors aside from being "noobz lolz no skillz" Zombie numbers are too many. They break immersion, they don't make sense. and the game mechanics just don't cater to such a high number (be it stealth or loot). I say a quantity between 1.5.6 and 1.5.7 for the next update would be perfect, with a longer spawn time. So if all the "pros" and "hardcore" players could stop making fools of themselves by calling players that aren't enjoying a bug noobs, that would be swell, because despite popularity occasionally breaking games, its also good design and user experience quality that keeps a mod like this alive for many years.