SillySil

Not a reason why I shouldn't shoot. How is that stopping me? I'm not bored of killing people, it's challenging and satisfying. Especially if there is some wannabe sheriffs after you. Or a bullet if the guy isn't friendly at all? Not worth it. I'll trade few bullets for everything you have and getting rid of a potential threat. But I don't really care about making human interactions realistic. I wish they were realistic but I'm not going to piss in the wind. This is on game mechanics and devs, not on players. If the game is supposed to be realistic when it comes to human interaction, then they should put something to force it. I get what you're saying and this indeed is something I'm loosing by not being friendly. Although I'd rather loose opportunity to be nice instead of getting shot in the face and running back to my tent.In other words, there are no mechanics in the game that would make me think twice about killing people on sight.

Give me one reason why I shouldn't shoot people on sight. I don't really care about loosing bullets so that's out of the window.

When your skin changes your backpack is replaced with the 8slot backpack. If you had more than 8 slots being used at the moment of change, the backpack will eat the rest. Nothing prevents or fixes it. All you can do is putting the backpack on the ground before your skin changes. Assuming it's not gonna glitch and go under the map/into a wall or just disappear for no reason.

There are 2 types of sandbox. There is a sandbox where there is no goal and you have everything from the start and just mess with it. Or the second type where you don't get everything from the start and you need to get things yourself. And the sandbox part is about players being the main part of the world and because there are no objectives doing what they want. And people will always do what benefits them the most. First it's gathering gear and then doing what they find fun and what gives them satisfaction. At the moment PvP is the only challenge this game has. Plus there are no downsides of killing people. You don't loose your gear because you can just alt+f4 and even if you die you have 50 tents all with high-end gear because duping is so easy that you can dupe things even on accident or even if you're not alt+f4ing, duping or anything, if you know what you're doing and with a bit of luck, you can be fully geared in under an hour. And don't tell me that firefights in this game aren't fun or satisfying. That's why people do it, just for the sake of it. If there were other things to do that would be equally fun and challenging then people would do it. But the best alternative is putting limitations on you and playing by made-up rules. Hell I can go "omg there is so little content that after getting high-end gear this game has nothing to offer and gets boring really fast and I have to make up things to do or I'll bore myself to death" and for instance start playing by a rule "never shoot first, always ask if friendly" or "look on the forums if someone needs healing and walk around the map healing people" or "never run, only crawl". You shouldn't put yourself at a disadvantage to make the game less boring. The game should have enough things to do to keep you entertained and they all should be equally valid. Look at EVE, it's a sandbox and there are many ways of playing it and they are all valid. You don't put yourself at a disadvantage by choosing this or that playstyle. In DayZ you have to do that. Everyone will be shooting at you on sight while you will not because you are "creative". DayZ is a PvP game. And the mechanics support FFA DM at the moment. People follow the mechanics. You want to get angry about people PvPing? Blame the mechanics.

So you're saying that alt+f4ing during combat and server hopping are intentional features?

The worst part is that they think that adding 5 second logout will hurt legit players so they will never add it.

Spawn in cherno/electro, find a weapon, kill someone who has already gathered some equipment and take his loot. Save yourself trouble of scavenging.

You didn't say you gear up faster. I kept saying that KoS is the most efficient way of getting loot and you kept talking about survivalist strategy "Survivalist strategy: Finding the most reliable and efficient means by which to survive the longest. #1 on the list of priorities for me is to avoid conflict with deadly weapons, as they may cause death, ending said survival attempt." And you said it's most efficient. Killing someone the moment you see them, gets rid of a potential threat because you don't know what they're going to do once they spot you, plus you might get something from him (like morphine) that will save you from going to a hotspot and risking your life there. But once you kill someone who's already equipped you save yourself from going to deerstands/military camps, hospital and houses for tools. Looking for things yourself might be faster than looking for someone to kill but you can do both things at the same time. No, spawn percentages are all gone. The supposedly rarest things are the most common. Everybody has as50/thermo and nvg. Well then you have a lot of time to play and you have fun running for miles to search deerstands. I'd rather avoid all that running by killing and looting. What? So you don't choose the most suitable gun, strategy, build for the job? How's that a bad thing? Or why would I be the least fun person to play games with because of that? By the way haven't you been looking for the most efficient way of surviving yourself? Pride of accomplishment from doing things in the less popular way. Hipster.

There are artifacts in cherno, balota, stary sobor, berezino and north west airfield. Better stay away until fixed. Also most people shoot on sight in this game. Either find someone to play with or stay away/kill people.

When to KoS: -When another player is potential threat. -I need something and there is a chance he has it. -You're bored, you have high-end gear and want to use it on someone. Meaning ALWAYS. Seriously even someone without a gun can pull out something from his backpack or pull out an axe, they can always try to steal things from your backpack if you let them too close. Even if they say they are friendly they can put a bullet in the back of your head the moment you let your guard down. Also there is always something you need, and there is a chance another player has it (except fresh spawns). And there is the issue of having nothing to do once you get all you want. At that point there is nothing challenging to do except PvP.

Because they are having fun being dicks and there is not a single thing stopping them. Blame the game for the mechanics that gives "killing on sight" advantage over being friendly.

Afaik humanity was always there but it was hidden? You'd make more sense ranting about dogs. Rocket tried to fix the artifacts but failed. But yeah, that's what he should be working on. Also about hackers... he has no control over it. And even if he had, scripting is not going to be stopped because this is how arma2 was made. Scripting can be only stopped by standalone.

I don't get it. Many people just got hired? What you said makes no sense. And yeah, scripting, duping, and bugged inventory is not letting people enjoy this mod so they're quitting. Although someone could make an argument that we were never supposed to enjoy it because it's alpha.

If I were in a zombie apocalypse with everything I could possibly ever need and I had unlimited ammo and no conscience or morality, then I would shoot people for fun. Because: nobody cares about pixels dieing. Ammo in dayz is unlimited if you know how. There is absolutely nothing to do once you get all the things you need so people make up their own fun things. Duping bro 95% of high end gear is duped, either by the person using it or by someone you picked it up from.

Cherno and Electro are the PvP zones. You must be new. And this is not real life. Nobody is going to feel bad about killing pixels. I care as much about your death as about zombie's death. The second reason why people wouldn't stay on a rooftop shooting people for fun is not unlimited ammo. Which is frigging unlimited in dayz. Wanna fix the snipers? Fix duping/recovering ammo.

You went to cherno not expecting to die? Or maybe did you go with M4cco to kill fresh spawns and got killed by someone even higher in the food chain? Every gun is point and click. Snipers have a purpose they're supposed to overwatch while your team with M4s or other guns like that go up close.

Even if you raid a shop/hospital/firestation you can ignore zombies most of the time if this is not your first week of playing dayz. As in, as long as you're not dumb enough to get cornered, you can ignore them.

Don't make threads like this. It's the biggest reward for them.

I'm pretty much already playing dayz without zombies because they are so bad that for the most part you can ignore them.

Three things. How would devs know about hacking or how bad is it if people wouldn't talk about it? The engine is going to be different in standalone. There won't be client-sided scripts. Any data you collect on this engine is worthless on standalone one. You're complaining about people complaining...

It's like EA making an FPS in modern time because Activision did it. If the gamemode and setting is the only thing they have taken from dayz then I don't see a problem. I'd have a problem with warz if they would try to copy all the mechanics and make somewhat a copy of dayz on another engine.

I don't even defend warz because I don't even know the game but most of your points are really idiotic. 1. They ripped off dayz? What did they rip off exactly? Open map? Zombies? Post zombie apocalypse setting? Scavenging and looking for loot? These things have already been there. Someone could say that DayZ is ripping off STALKER and Left4Dead. Unless the game feels copypasted there is no point talking about ripping things off. Everything has been done already. You can always say that something ripped something else. And even if someone would take a game and rip everything off and make a new game, it's not a reason why it would suck. It's a reason for the person being an asshole but not that the game will suck. If that was true, then DayZ standalone would be bound to suck since it's ripping off DayZ arma mod. This argument makes no sense in so many ways. 2. Well then following your logic DayZ sucks because it's an exact copy of ARMA 2 just modded. (arma sucks, you can have only 1 animation at a time, can't run and change weapons for instance). See how dumb this point is? 3. And these things can't be added to the game? It's like saying that DayZ mod is gonna suck because it's made on arma and arma doesn't have realistic things like food and drinks. It makes no sense... if a mod can add things to the game why not warz can add things to war inc? And just please can you repeat that breaking legs is realistic in dayz? Because I can't believe my eyes. How many times have you heard about someone breaking his leg because he pinned himself between a wall and a door while opening it? Or how about breaking legs while crawling over a rock? How about breaking legs from a 1 meter fall? And last but not least, how does morphine heal a broken leg? Realistic elements... Give me a break. 4. Unless you are a mindless zombie you have a free will and don't have to buy anything from the cash shop? "oh god an optional shop to buy skins and shit, they are trying to rip me off!!!!" 5. This is your only somewhat good point. It is suspicious that there are no videos. And I am skeptical about warz. It seems fishy. I'll definitely wait for reviews and some good footage before I buy it. I have answered to your post because it made no sense.

The term was used as in "doing something unpopular" doesn't have anything to do with your real life experience. So it's do what the game wants me to do just avoid PvP. It's not the most efficient way of gearing up. Sorry. It meant "if by survivalist strategy you mean asking people if they're friendly then add "not risking your life" to kill on sight strategy's advantages over survivalist strategy" Better as in more efficient. Doesn't mean that someone who's not following the most efficient way is bad if he choses to play that way. I even said that I don't look down on people who play the game in a different way if that's what's makes them enjoy it. You have said that it's not the best way of gearing up. I said that it is the best way. And thus that other ways are worse. Doesn't mean you shouldn't do that if that's your thing. Never said you shouldn't play in some other way. Playing the game in some less efficient way doesn't make you creative or imaginative. I can play CS and only buy people guns instead of buying them for myself. So creative... Best gear as in military weapons and tools. I don't need to go to x number of residences and shops to get my tools if I can get a full set from a dead guy. The only random people I've cooperated are fresh spawns after fresh spawning myself. And it's only because I was pretty sure they won't shoot me at the first opportunity although I still took an unnecessary risk. That's broken as hell ATM. Your humanity changes randomly when joining servers and if someone attacks you, while not being a bandit yet, and you kill them in self defense, you become a bandit yourself.

There is a drawback. You need to get in contact with someone before you decide to run or shoot him. Not only you need to get closer but you reveal yourself if they haven't seen you.