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Well, it's fairly obvious we weren't there to grief. I already also explained why I didn't immidiately log out. I saw the kill, and I took it. I'm not here to snipe, but with the (admirable) zero tolerance policy that this game adheres to, you're sure as hell going to see me here defending myself and my friends. On a lighter note though, after realizing what happened, I have to say, it's pretty funny. I do apologize to your team, if that's what truely happened. It was the first older patched server we had died on that day (or week, for that matter). And just as a direct response to you Efferr, it was our first time, as we rarely come up against anyone who lives more than a few seconds between the five of us. I've only died once in the past few weeks, and we rarely are on un-patched servers, purely becuause sound is such a crucial part of our survival in PvP.

So you can try and get them banned too? No, I'll take responsibility for my people.

Not sure if you noticed, but over half the servers are that way. I saw a guy as soon as I logged in, and I took the shot. Everything that followed was purely escalation with little time to react. There was no, "Oh, I guess we should log now." My friend logged in, and was immediately killed by friendly fire. That set everything into motion. Also, we run a 5 man team, not three.

Because we died to friendly fire, and not a real kill.

You realize that a copy of your body stays in the debug forest right? This is a fairly well-known and bannable offense that people like you have been abusing for a while now.

You know what? I do apologize for screwing you out of more hacked kills by protecting myself with the latest patches, I really do.

Or, a more reasonable approach, you've been doing this for ages, and the recent patch boned you. Because that's the option I choose. Edit: I'd also like to use some common sense in reference to your screenshot. You're looking at three different bodies, in your Ghillie suit and .50 cal. You're looking at the "immortal hackers" bodies, who have an M24 and ALICE packs. Does it really make any sense to you that we'd have that bad of gear if we were able to become immortal at will? Really? ...Really?

I don't see a problem in killing hackers, and that's where you don't seem to get the point. We didn't die by valid means. If you killed us regularly, we'd be gone to the coast, and the game would go on normally, but you chose to kill us from the debug plain, and so we were perfectly within our rights as far as I'm concerned to continue on from an illegitimate kill. You killed one of us legitimately (Grant), which I assume was from whoever was actually on that hill, and he lost his stuff just like your team did. However, the rest of us, using the same patch and the same OA beta as him, only seemed to "die" to Friendly Fire. If you want to call that abusing the system, I will call you a hacker, because there's no reason the game should interact differently between us, on the same patches. I verified he was on the updated patch BEFORE killing off your team (I'm the team leader, and normally call when to retreat or fight), and thus, I did nothing wrong but to move after I was "killed" (read: delayed) by your cheating buddy. YOU made the choice to abuse the game in such a way that has been scorned by the community, and by the developer himself, and you want be to feel bad because I killed you for doing it? I respectfully beg to differ. Sumner tells me he just died to you legitimately, which means that you finally manned up and shot him face to face. There's no magic to it. You didn't kill him by cheating. There are no scripts. We've farmed Stary on a million servers, and never had this issue before. Weird, isn't it?

Hi, I'm Micky, and our point of view is completely different from this. We logged in this server to farm Stary a bit. After logging in, we spotted someone, and killed him. I had one of my ground team head out to loot him when he was killed by friendly fire, by someone on the OP's clan. Then all hell broke lose. We were all in Skype. Another in our group spotted someone running along the North Ridge. I moved up to kill him, and was promptly killed by friendly fire. When I respawned, I was back at my body. It was at this point that we said to each other in vent, "These kids must be hacking." and assumed the server client was realizing that friendly fire kills do not legitimately exist in the game, and protected us. We realized that, moved up, and killed the hackers rather quickly. That's my side, and I think it's pretty obvious who's hacking. They're clearly able to kill people by having someone in the debug plains to protect their clan so they can loot freely. Edit: I'd also like to point out for those that don't know, when you have someone in the debug plains and they kill someone, it lists as friendly fire. It's been a much abused glitch in this game, and is one of the lowest ways to play imo. My friends also wish me to add that we're all completely updated to the most recent patches for both Arma OA beta's and DayZ files.