AgonyTTV

Never said you liked them - but you are here, literally debating what I've said in regards to a majority feedback and polls. You literally started your reply off with another strawman, so I'm just going to assume you're a troll and continue on with my day.

You've missed the point where Sumrak said that this was going to be up to the community and how they responded to the feature, whether or not the feature makes it into stable. Those 18,000+ people that voted in the multiple polls from people in the community as whole, over 12,600 said they didn't want it. Majority of DIRECT replies to Sumrak where he said it was up to how it was received, said they didn't want it in the game. The fact that you're ignoring polls on this topic with 18 THOUSAND people voting on it (75% of DayZ's average playercount) kind of just shows that you're missing the point, and just want to argue because I don't admire the project lead like you do. A good majority of the community voiced that they did not want this feature in game - and it still has been pushed through stable. Yes, he is indeed out of touch with the game and it's community when he is blatantly ignoring something that he himself said he would listen to. If you're gonna try and debate, don't try to rely on strawman arguments the whole time, "lad". Also, not everyone plays on community servers, so yeah, get out of here with the server owner argument. It's a bad hill to die on, "lad".

Oh well. I'm not here to please you, especially with how much you threw your ego around in that first reply to me. I gave solid statistics where the community was asked directly, and you're still trying to discredit it. As I've said in previous replies/posts, "The majority of the community that have voiced their opinions on this are not fond of the feature at all." - I didn't say that this represented the ENTIRE community - but it seemingly does represent the majority that has VOICED their opinion on it. I said what I said and I stand by it, I would love to see DayZ give another developer a chance as project lead. If you find that as "disgusting", you need to toughen up.

The overwhelming response to them in this thread alone shows that even most people on the forums do not like their inclusion. Wobo, M1NDR and myself all ran polls about whether it was wanted in game or not, and with a collective 18,000 votes or so, over 70% across all polls said that it should not be in the game at all. Streamers have been asking opinions on them since their addition in EXP, the majority of their chats do NOT want it in the game. Same goes for twitter. The majority of the community that have voiced their opinions on this are not fond of the feature at all. We just had a hastily done rework to the damage/armour system in 1.13 that was wildly broken when it initially released, as well as the sounds of gunshots reduced heavily at that point. The changes to the zeds at that point were a big deal as well (their range, not the damage they do). The sounds being reduced have drastically reduced the amount of life that a full 80-100 pop server has. People are having less encounters simply for the fact that they are hearing less gunshots to either run to or run from. Now with 1.15 we have wildly reduced recoil on automatic rifles across the board, when recoil wasn't a problem to begin with (should have been increased to be more close to previous patches imo), and directional hit indicators. Hit indicators being added to the game take away a big draw that this game had to a lot of people when they initially found out about it... Which was that it had NOTHING like that. As over used as the term "arcadey" is, this patch is pretty arcadey.

My content has nothing to do with this conversation. Nor does anyone being a youtuber, big or small have any weight on their criticism towards a game that they have thousands upon thousands of hours on. But your snide comments just show who here is the one who has a bad attitude and is disrespectful. I wouldn't want you watching my videos or streams anyway. And no, it's not over just hit detectors. It's over the ENTIRE direction the game has taken since they've become project lead. We gave them criticism. The majority criticism as that we do not want it in the game. Majority criticism from the community was that we wanted gun sounds reverted to how they were in 1.12. They do not listen to criticism very well at all, and that's evident by the amount of things added into 1.13 + 1.15 as a whole that essentially NO ONE asked for, among other various things that we've requested/asked for years being ignored. I think perhaps you need to understand that a lot of the community is completely fed up with the direction this game has taken this year.

He didn't bring up official because it completely destroys his argument of the feature not being as bad as it seems. There is a MASSIVE amount of players out there that only play Official for certain reasons. They're not gonna have an easy time finding community servers that don't have indicators, and on top of that - they already can't find servers that are close enough to official/vanilla to even WANT to play community servers to begin with. The whole update is extremely backhanded to the community. Devs haven't listen to a single word we've said.

And guess what this does? This is going to make finding a community server that isn't overly modded/true to vanilla even HARDER, because now we need to look for a server that isn't overly modded AND has no hit indicators. Point blank, it does not belong in the game.

By far the most disappointing and pointless update we've had in a whilst. It's like the dev team doesn't even listen to feedback anymore. Both I and Wobo ran polls about the hit indicators. The overwhelming majority of players flatout think that they do NOT belong in the game WHATSOEVER. Get a better project lead that actually understands the core values of the game, please. Had to create an account JUST to express how much of a mistake this update is. Likely is my last patch.