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Especially In a so called full 1.0 game . People will ridicule and boycott dayz claiming it’s a scam especially due to the price going up in price ; when it’s really anything but a scam , it’s a great game being rushed to its own death .

The real dayz died about 2 years ago right before we entered .62, look at the steam charts we can hardly pull 5 k players concurrently , and most of these people are just loot hungry server hoppers playing by themselves . This is not something we could have imagined when the standalone first started and we were all bright eyed and bushy tailed . These devs need to take control of their game , as of right now the ONLY people appreciating how they are handling this are people like yourself that have absolutely nothing to say about the game unless it’s positive - it’s like you’re in denial to the reality of things and you want to stay in your little fake world Made up entirely by the interns of dayz that are essentially roller coaster riding “their” game to hell . Sure dayz will make it because actual devs worked on it for years before these interns got their hands on it , but we as original backers from December 2013 can’t help but feel disgusted when we think of how much work went into this project only to be rushed out the door in a sloppy state as soon as the finish line was in sight; and all for the community of players that the devs ENSURED US wouldn’t receive special attention : the Xbox / console crowd ... Yes ladies and gentleman it seems the new faux devs were won over by mad money and an early Xbox push as years ago they said they wouldn’t push out the Xbox version with the pc version so they could solely focus on the pc version , and now ? Well now we all know what’s happening, our game is being rushed to meet the craze of Xbox fans wanting to buy into all the juicy dayz games and merch . Ive said it for years and say it again : I love dayz , and want the best for it , what’s happening now is simply not the best for it and now I see my favorite game stripping itself of features to meet an arbitrary deadline that makes NO SENSE to meet in such a short amount of time . Haven’t these devs ever heard the saying “slow and steady wins the race”? Don’t these devs have phones ? ;)

Not at all . This gives everyone another piece of ammunition against dayz as if there weren’t enough already . They need to stop rushing deadlines and take their damn time ... we wouldn’t have cared if it took 6 years to get a full release , just don’t release the game to “1.0” in this state unless you have a MAJOR patch coming that will fix everything , add more content and fix the bugs that brings with it , and know that it all will work 100% smoothly . please don’t follow suit will all the other AAA devs out there (and even some indies) that just rush to finish the product due to demand. There’s still so many features to be added that will need bug fixing , what happens when all the new content is added post 1.0 and it takes the devs a year or more to fix all the bugs that come with it ? People will call them unprofessional causing more stress and demand to finish the bugfixing all in a period that is designed to be a much more relaxed time for the devs - but it will be anything but that for them and us the players due to their desire to push the deadline so early. Might as well have stayed in alpha for another .5-1.5 years at that point as that would have shown a much more polished game . Let’s just hope the patch is QoL additions and bug fix galore , because otherwise we will be drowning in a sea of “post 1.0” bugs .

From the pulse of the forums , I can tell most of us aren’t ready to properly critique a game that’s this broken , THIS close to “full release” . I fondly remember this happening just recently to another game that everybody hates now .. what was the name... oh yes , fallout 76 . How could I forget : this games beta is exactly like falllut 76s , and best of all they promise to release this buggy mess in a little over a month ! Now onto the serious note : People need to stop defending these devs and their poor decisions , it’s only enabling them to continue down this lazy and poor path . They NEED to push out this big patch like asap so we can critique it and tell them if it’s ready for 1.0 or not . Remember FBs and WKs ; your idolizing of the devs as God’s is only Bringing us further and further away from a proper , non-broken , smooth operating 1.0 . Essentially if you defend any poor decisions this late in the game or use any FB / FORUMS WK-like terms (which includes using the phrase “it’s beta/ it’s early access just be patient”) then you are advocating for a bug ridden , poorly developed game that will never have a proper beta or 1.0 phase because of all the goddamn coddling you people are doing to the devs just because you don’t want to hurt their feelings or some shit . Grow up people - we paid for this product years ago, we still have yet to have that product delivered in full so don’t let these devs pull a fast one and give us a shitty broken 1.0. We honestly deserve more for being so damn loyal and always telling our friends “dayz is just about to get awesome” when really it’s just spinning the same old gears . And you people should expect more than a barely functioning pvp game after 5 years .

Isn’t it funny how persistence was almost perfect before base building and then they ruined it just in time for “beta” ? Oh but that’s ok cuz beta is for fixing things ... but wait we still have so much more to add ... so basically they are forcing all these fixes , new content and fixes on all the broken new content , in less than two months to appease the ridiculously loud minority of Xbox players. If any of you were here for the entire ride you would realize how ridiculous this is , and how poor of a move it was to rush this beta out . We should still be in alpha for fucks sake (that’s based off of the current state of the game - where it ACTUALLY IS - and not where the out of touch devs think it is, and it’s certainly not at the state in which all these fbs think it’s at). This game is a mess compared to its former builds - sure we have some new content but half of the old content is broken and half of the new content we won’t even get until “post 1.0” . What a terrible way to manage a game , and after 3+ years of managing expectations and development time so well they give us this shit show ? Its just such a kick in the nuts to all of us that were here since day one is all - but of course those obsessed with the game and it’s devs won’t care , and they almost rule these forums cuz no one with a brain cares to chime in - it’s all just the same old bullshit with this community - “ if you don’t like it , Just go ahead and shut the hell up “ - is the dayz dev and fans motto .

Devs have said many times during this long ass journey that ghosting into bases will be prevented by using a simple “teleport to nearest area if inside X area with base” feature that they could code in . Dont ask me which status reports it’s in because there’s too much junk on this forums to keep track , but it was said multiple times that this could be an easy solution for that issue .

Well if any of the submacbine guns were In game I think we would all have a better view of them ... but of course they are more rare (or non existent) than the “top tier” assault rifles FFS .

I don’t think that’s the cause every time . I’ve done nothing of the sort like you described and have had multiple base building objects and materials disappear on me . Tents ? Yes . Barrels ? Sure . Vehicles ? After one bump they were gone (haven’t found another in days). Persistence is wacky in the code , and it runs deeper than “spring cleaning” but thanks for the workaround regardless .

Agreed . Response you will get : “we’re aware of the issue , please use bug tracker” ....

Only 2 devs watching the bug tracker ??? It’s beta for fucks sake . Shouldn’t they all be watching that thing since beta is all about fixing bugs ?

You do realize “game testing” is ending in less than a month ? You do realize that a broken beta this close to full release is NOT GOOD RIGHT? You do realize that fallout 76s beta was just like this , and if they don’t get their shit straight people will hate dayz even more when they realize it’s every feature that pulls people in is broken ? lets break down just SOME of the broken / missing features : persistence of bases - broken , items disappearing at random and people can use a saw , axe or other tool to take down your base in minutes . vehicles - broken , too rare , and very desync ridden , the vehicles were far better when they were first implemented as they now disappear after the radiator is damaged and it happens a lot considering the headlights ARENT BRIGHT AT ALL and you will find yourself smashing into shit unless you have a flashlight or other light source out (impossible when in car) zombies - don’t jump over fences any more , they don’t react to you unless you are right in their face or have the brightest colors on , they also take too long to kill you (15 slow hits from a zombie = possible death) and they never make you bleed anymore (rags = now useless) server owning = with night time being broken for everyone besides ultimate FBs and forum WKs , many night time servers are left abandoned ; unless said server is operated by a famous streamer of course , then they stay over night to stream snipe . Also there are many persistence and crash errors for server owners. Nighttime - broken as all fuck ? Light sources are rare and when you find them you’re simply a target for someone with a better monitor (read : better monitor = better advantage at night) Guns / items : many are missing . MANY . We are working with such a limited roster of weapons it’s kind of pathetic the devs keep removing perfectly good weapons for no reason . The new engine has been In for months now , they can’t reactivate the weapons with the new animations they have been “working on” ? They’ve been working on new animations for almost a year now... Anyone remember the longhorn , the glock , vss , Svd , fn fal , engraved 1911 , blaze double rifle ? Some of these will be at a crash site you say ? Ok well find me a crash site that isn’t already picked over . Oh you can’t ? Oh what’s that ? It’s because the devs put one per server and it’s never found by anyone besides the no lifers ? Oh... ok . I guess that’s that . Overall there’s so much more I can put down that was fucked up , removed , or taken out of the game altogether , but it would only disappoint me further and put me more towards disliking the devs decisions (how they are now) than I already do . People need to stop defending these devs and their poor decisions , it’s only enabling them to continue down this lazy and poor path . They NEED to push out this big patch like asap so we can critique it and tell them if it’s ready for 1.0 or not . Remember FBs and WKs ; your idolizing of the devs as God’s is only Bringing us further and further away from a proper , non-broken , smooth operating 1.0 . TLDR: Essentially if you defend any poor decisions or use any FB / FORUMS WK-like terms (which includes using the phrase “it’s beta/ it’s early access just be patient”) then you are advocating for a bug ridden , poorly developed game that will never have a proper beta or 1.0 phase because of all the goddamn coddling you people are doing to the devs just because you don’t want to hurt their feelings or some shit ; grow up- we paid for this product years ago, we still have yet to have that product delivered i full but don’t let these devs pull a fast one and give us a shitty broken 1.0. We honestly deserve more for being so damn loyal and always telling our friends “dayz is just about to get awesome” when really it’s just spinning the same old gears .

Nope stun lock is a Feature in all melee - not just modded servers lol ! It’s a product of a chunky clunky combat system with no balance passes .

Relax there Bud - noones insulting your god , their mistakes are being pointed out though . 5 years and persistence still broken ? Night time still not “balanced”? Zombies still kittens unless you get turned around in the absolute pitch black ? Bases that can be destroyed with a simple tool after building it in the dark for 3 days straight ? Losing a vehicle because it bumps a tree (because it was so dark) after searching for one for literal hours ? All these things after a grueling 4.99 years and we still have to have the patience of a saint for fear of getting ragged on by the likes of you ? I don’t think so , I think it’s time the developers start giving US the benefit of the doubt , after all this has been just as much a “labor of love” for us as it has been for them.. yet it’s always up to us the community to take more and more Dayz Dev promises up the ass and store them there for when they actually come true (if that happens , some of these promises / features just disappear as if they never had it planned or they just cut it or push it back past 1.0). The devs used to move fast like a wrecking ball through their development , they even said it would be much smoother when the new engine is in place and that they could deliver large patches with needed content much quicker.. that was what , 2 years ago? We all know now that that was an overzealous statement to say the least , as we just got out of the 1.5 year stretch that we were stuck in .62 for . TLDR : stop telling people to have more patience , stop defending the devs , there’s nothing for you to defend anymore - maybe you had a purpose as the forums WK 2 - 3 years ago but we’re all grown up now and we can easily see that these devs just aren’t like they use to be . The interns have taken over and the dayz dev vets have taken a back seat; seemingly not caring what happens next to “their” game .

You’re lucky it’s that bright . For me it’s literal pitch black when on the coast staring into an open “moonlit” field . It’s absolute garbage for people with specific video cards / monitors . Just one of the many poor design decisions that was jammed up this “beta builds” ass .

Really glad to hear the persistence is working better . When .63 first hit stable I swear every time I would turn my damn back my car / base would disappear ... probably just official hive server issues as I never tried a private ...

I’ve been saying many of these things but it’s always met with emotional backlash . These forums are meant for positivity only , not criticism . But oh wait you’re a popular streamer maybe they will listen to you XD . Times have changed man , I remember back in the day when the dayz team was mad real but now they are succumbing to pressures of console peasants and publishers alike - forcing our game to its knees as they hasten the road to full release by watering the game down and accepting many issues as a “feature” for too long before it’s addressed .

Persistence is broken in many ways right now - maybe the worst state of it I’ve seen in years .

Lol guy get your shit straight - no one said the devs are “ripping anyone off” they are clearly just being lazy .. it’s not helping the build or the appearance of beta is all , you don’t have to get super defensive over indefensible things . They said when the new engine came all the things would return - well the new engines been here for a good half a year or more and yet were still taking steps back . Maybe you should take a step back from dayz and see what it really is - still a great game but very shallow indeed compared to what it could be if only we had all the items , guns and accessories that have been rotting in trello development hell .

Paragraphs please - otherwise cool story mate !

Zombies definitely need a buff . The experience with them is disillusioning at best , it seems like they have gone on a roller coaster ride of good and bad . They are now good because : A) there’s a good bit of them now which is fun B) they are varied and hAve loot C) many different models of zombies D) they spot brighter colors now I think But the bad : A) they only spot bright colors or gun shots from afar B) they take too long to kill you C) you don’t get white screen anymore , making it easier as well .

The game is in a very rough state indeed ... it’s taken a few steps forward in one area , but a few steps back in others . Persistence is working but barely , and much worse than it did on the previous engine . Basebuilding looks good , but no wAy to tell as persistence wipes so often or glitches and force disappears / wipes . Vehicles are more rare than they’ve ever been since they were implemented years ago , the driving is still less than realistic but getting there - although I remember a status report last year or the year before that talking about shooting from vehicles when the new engine comes ; I would love to see that ASAP ... Weapon roster is lower than before , and many weapons have been in development hell for years (rpg , cricket launcher , RPK , m249 , bizon 88) that I’ve been dying to see ... One would think the devs would just throw these already modeled and finished guns into this build to make it feel less ..”shallow” for lack of a better term (in terms of guns). Overall we are making progress but I really wish they wouldn’t force the 1.0 by end of December , because at this point we all know it won’t happen with good quality if the devs continue this pace until then . I would say 1.0 by March / April to be safe — but honestly it seems they have all the pieces in place, I’m not a dev but it seems like they should just be able to finish the puzzle and add it all in no time , but I don’t know ....

Agreed . It’s very easy to survive right now . A friend and I have been doing nothing but testing vehicles and persistence / durability of basebuilding without paying much attention to survival (cold/rain is the only stopping factor).. not only is it easy enough to survive off of the canned goods zombies give , but also incredibly easy to loot enough food from towns and hunt animals (finally more animals spawned in). I like being able to actually find food but it may be a bit much right now (Just tone down the amount of food found in zombies maybe).

Stable enough for weapons ? Buddy you do realize that the game was stable enough for weapons the very first day of alpha ? the game feels so shallow right now with broken persistence , vehicles , and basebuilding why not just throw in a bunch of weapons and items that we are all missing plus the new weapons they’ve showcased on trello years ago ? will you really defend anything they do this blindly ? You really have a problem with them adding in completed weapons? jesus Christ I heard these forums were filled with toxicity , but didn’t realize just how far you will blindly defend all poor game design decisions . More weapons and items that are complete = more patience the general public has that the BIG stuff isn’t fixed yet (you know base building , persistence , vehicles , which are all broken right now and feel like it’s a stress test instead of a “stable” beta - developers words NOT MINE). The big stuff that matters is broken so give us the completed pipeline of weapons plus what you took away from us - it shouldn’t be hard and it only has positive effects , if you (developers) are planning on adding these weapons then it’s now or never cuz you already missed the proper implementation chance (alpha is for adding , beta is for polishing).

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Car positions are resetting at every server reset now , so when you find one and the server crashes (which is often) you will have to search AGAIN for another car somewhere else. They are worthless unless you have all the parts and can fix a car up before server reset ; but even then there’s a chance it will despawn on you even if you get it away from its original spawn point .... fix this devs .. this glitch plus the fact that all bases can be destroyed with a simple saw in minutes makes basebuilding and vehicles completely pointless unless you have a whole day to continue searching for cars after your first one disappears (or your first base is broken into with ease).