Noxman

I am not involved in this at all but feel compelled to reply. Beany, first of all, no one is protected. You can protect people yourselves but any action to kick/ban or attempt to find misconduct just because people attacked you or your charges is admin abuse. Secondly, my god man you've never heard of night vision goggles? You can one shot someone with the dmr which you can use nvgs with. You can headshot someone with any normal iron sight gun all of which you can use nvgs with. You can have a night vision fal which is one shot kill. Night time is not safe and you would be a fool to think so.

They attempted to implement a 5 second timer previously but it didn't work (as in actually bugged, not just people ignored it somehow). They are still working on solutions for logging out and whatnot. Personally I support a WoW style logout timer but any kind of delay on reconnecting would significantly punish normal players. Sometimes the game just starts running slow and you need to relog to fix it. My crappy internet ping spikes every once in awhile and I get booted for having a high ping. Sometimes you log out for 5 mins to go afk. As it stands now, the game and life in general is not stable enough to have something as draconian as a 15 minute timer before being able to rejoin a server.

Was just about to say, 20 NVGs, 15 ghillies, good job getting rid of their duped supply! Sick of that kind of conduct.

Bear traps sound cool in zombie apocalypse context but in the current mmorpg style farming murders and nvgs context it will be a pain in the ass. Put a bear trap infront of the barracks and camp from 800 meters with long range sniper rifle. Previously people would run in making it hard to hit them, now they have to stop to remove the trap and bang one down automatically. Same goes for every building in cherno/elektro. This will give griefers an advantage and barely change anything for organised groups (unless you find like 50 you ain't going to effectively bear trap up your camp perimeter and besides, you don't really need to especially if players can remove them anyway). I just worry that for groups you will have to have a sacrificial player to take down bear traps and for new starters they will simply be stuffed. Do you guys really think people aren't going to drop like three in bushes around deer stands just for the shit of it? Or the other side of the enterable wall at the balota medical tents? Bear traps would be cool if we really had to survive (guns rare, ammo rare etc, more apocalyptic in general) but as it stands it will only support murdering for fun.

According to the loot tables, the corrugated iron shack with the single loot point has about a 4% chance to spawn military loot. It's possible he ain't lying. Although 4% isn't exactly reliable...

Because he needs to be perma-banned as much as you can perma-ban someone... Why would you ever be against the reporting of hackers, especially in a game like this?

The main problem with this is that it focuses on the few irritating bandits who camp roofs in cities and whatnot. I am often a bandit, but I don't actively seek out other players. Being quite reclusive I spend time staking out towns and cities before entering to go to the store/hospital/apartments or whatever. I would rather not encounter anyone but if I do I will attempt to get an angle and take you out. Im also very careful, see a bunch of dead zombies around a barn in the wilderness, give it a wide berth and move on while keeping an eye over my shoulder. It ain't worth it, anyone inside has a better angle to take me out and its an encounter I can avoid with little risk. As such, each life, I have very few kills. Often enough to become a bandit but I tend to survive for long periods of time and encounter people infrequently. Im basically treading the line between careful survivor and actual bandit and as such this would be a massive punishment for my playstyle. I do not kill indiscriminately nor do I actively hunt or camp others. Under this system I would have to become a bloodthirsty murder machine simply to sate my imaginary lust for more beans. I do not want to kill more than I have to. This is all regardless of someone who has killed in self defense enough to become a 'bandit' who is now punished for their survival skills with crazy penalties. All in all, currently the only solution I can think of for the rampant murderfest 2012 that is cherno/elektro is to join a different server. I have spent time on various different servers in america and europe and the individual server communities are vastly different. Remember what servers you join and eventually you will find one that suits you.

When you say reconnection at the end are you referring to fully leaving a server and joining the same or another or disconnecting to the lobby? Tbh either way it seems like a significant punishment, I often dc from my current server to join up with friends that have come online. The 5 minute timer would be extremely frustrating. I think the method is interesting but I think the restriction wouldn't be worth the gain you get from not having dc'ers and server hoppers. Sometimes people just have to go (although dc'ing in combat is 99% bullshit) and if i'm in elektro I might have to simply leg it out of town up the nearest hill and log off. What if I run out of the city (because I can't dc when trying) up the nearest hill and attempt to log off only to find I can't because someone else is passing by on their way to the city. Also what happens to your character if you ctrl-alt-del the game? Oh also, this would add the requirement of grouping with anyone you play with just to avoid the penalty (although it would be fun to troll torch wielding noobies by running around behind them so they can't log). I don't mean to be so negative and I can't really offer any practical solution to the problems myself but this seems like it would be more punishing than useful. If the game gets bound too significantly in rules the people who play to screw around will leave and new players will be put off by an incapability to play because of a random timer they didn't know about.

I'm curious, on what servers can you see yourselves on the map? And enemies you have spotted too? What witchcraft is this!? Seriously though, never been on a server where you can see yourself :)

Wait, 60 murders and you're complaining about them sniping people? I just..... wut?

Best video ever, especially the heli "Holy Shit!" moment :D

Judge the distance and use zeroing (pageup and pagedown by default). If someone is at 350 metres and you are zerod to 300 the bullet will only drop a tiny bit. Do the operation arrowhead tutorial, there is a shooting range section that covers things like zeroing. A good way also to practice distance judging is to jump into the armoury and just shoot at stuff with and without zeroing or make a custom mission with static and moving targets to shoot at. Trust me, once you get zeroing sorted sniper shots on static targets become a doddle.

Vid was worth it to see all the people shouting for you to stop talking in global. Nothing ruins an immersive experience like someone trash talking, the guy may have sucked balls but jesus.

You are a bandit hunting a noob right... ok yeah thats fine. Now tell me what kind of noob hunting bandit keeps his guns in his backpack with no weapons at all in the primary slots? Unless you can be fully looted when unconcious...

Well you gotta admit that saying "i murdered 31 people" and "all in good fun" is a teeeency bit mutually exclusive. I understand your intention, I wish people had a bit more of a relaxed attitude, if you want to survival rp then getting murdered is part of it but some people do just want to have fun and the tension this game provides makes screwing about three times more exciting. But if you had a good firefight that you came out on top of, making a thread would be good because then they can come on and say "hey man amazing gunfight, nearly had ya blah blah", but people feeling a little disenfranchised for being murdered out of nowhere and probably need to step back and calm down a bit (I always stop playing after dying to prevent myself being bitter, when I come back starting anew is tense and fun), it will be a little on the nose to come on the forums and find their murderer saying "no hard feelings buddy".

I don't care that sometimes people want to snipe and murder inauspiciously. Thats cool, its a playstyle and sometimes messing around pk'ing with a friend is really fun. But why did you make this thread? Maybe if you came up with a story about the amount of bandits you hunted other bandits would go "good work man, thats fair game". Just here saying how many noobs you murdered and saying "oh no hard feelings that I had all the equipment and you had none and I totally killed you because I can haha all fun relax", seems odd. I guess if you want the people you killed to come on and cry then its appropriate but a little unecessary.

I'm not sure anyone would sub for something so unpleasant and crass as that.... I mean really? Girl character makes pain noises must be on her period. Such a tired, overdone and archaic joke. Also a tip, people subscribe when they like the content, not because you asked. Often people even resent you asking because tbh its pretty lame.

Hah nice kill, that guy needed it. If nothing he was a looting liability, shooting zombies that havn't aggrod and calling dibs on anything good. The execution was just wonderful to watch, especially the "im being recorded so must keep smiling but like seriously brimming with righteous injustice right now" look. "What a fag...... what a fag..... what a fag....." Also to the guy talking about bumsucking... that was the guy whos channel it was, fasthandz was the one in the female skin who double barreled him in the face.

I must admit with the starting makarov removed my playstyle when starting anew is dramatically different. I used to be relatively careful when starting out as I felt like I had an alright beginning and didn't want to waste ammo/painkillers by aggroing. With the new zombie line of sight system and no gun, I just sprint headlong into the nearest town running around loot points for a gun, I have absolutely no incentive to play it careful because I have nothing to lose whatsoever. Not even a bit of starting gear worth keeping to help me survive.

You're not sure what you saw? This ain't ghost hunters, its a videogame... If you saw a tiger you would hardly run away going "im not sure what I just saw", you would duck down, start screenshotting and shout over chat, "holy shit guys theres a goddamn tiger here over, dis be some whack shizzle yo". Also by the way the "tiger" is sitting in that screenshot, its about 5-6 feet tall at its rear and and 10 feet at least at the front, what kind of horrible monster tiger is this!? Oh also... there isn't even the model for a tiger in the entire game etc etc etc Shenanigans and not even a very good attempt. Why aren't there tigers? Stuff wilderness zombies, just add tigers... and bears... and dragons..

I was providing overwatch for a friend and was sitting outside elektro looking into the city, on the hill northeast of the powerplant. I was using an m14 aim (killed a guy that was running back from NW way out in the open, couldn't believe my luck finding an m14 aim, m16a3/m203 and a gps on him). Not the best weapon for such long range (the shop and school were 400-500m). Anyway im thinking if I see anyone im going to shoot, I might get lucky or at least ill scare them and give my friend some covering fire and I need the long range practice anyway (new to banditry, almost never shot at anyone until recently and never at any great range). Looking about with binoculars I spy a fellow called Iceman climbing onto the roof of the school. He stops to loot on the top and so I take aim and fire. The shot drops more than I expected and I fire several times trying to line it up. I seem to hit him, taking a look through my binoculars he is bleeding. I try to hit him again while he bandages with no success. There is a slight raised platform that he starts proning behind, I make the mistake of shooting a couple more times and he manages to line me up (clearly experienced against bandits). It doesn't help that the server has mousewheel nametagging enabled. He seems to look directly at me even though im ghillie suited and halfway into a bush and says over side chat that i've shot at the wrong person and his friends are coming. Thinking this is pretty cocky but feeling whimsical about the whole situation I start talking in chat about how I needed to practice my long range shots and wished I had a dmr instead, pretty bad without a scope. A few seconds later I am kicked from the server without warning. Has anyone else encountered this behaviour? It seems odd to kick a bandit being candid about being a bandit (it may have been foolish of me to start chatting but its all a bit of fun, he didnt die and apparently his friends (oooh scary) are coming anyway). Edit: Forgot to mention, the server was EU72

Hi there ParagonXVIII, Thanks for the honest and information filled response :D As was said in the complaints version of this thread, your lack of affiliation with anyone called Iceman is enough for me and I consider the matter dropped. A one in a million chance on the timing, simply a coincidence :) See you soon (ill definitely be back to find Iceman), Cheers, Nox

On EU72 I shot at a guy on the roof of the school in elektro using an m14 aim. The distance was about 500m and my aim is awful, I seemed to hit him once causing him to bleed and missed him subsequently. He bandaged up and managed to clock me in the hills (mousewheel distance was on so he could just scan the hill for a playername to pop up). He then said that I had shot at the wrong guy and his friends were coming. I replied saying I wished I had a dmr and my aim is awful without a scope. A few seconds later I was kicked without warning. The player involved was called Iceman and the server was EU72. It is possible his friends were attempting to join and I was kicked as a random to make room but the timing was extremely convenient. I also didn't appreciate the cocky attitude that anyone is anything but fair game on any server no matter the circumstances although this isn't exactly an offence, just an indication that some people might feel they are protected by privelege. Ps: Just to note, I am not 'editing' the things I said to seem mild, the things I said in chat were entirely innocuous without any attempt at being antagonistic or offensive. ====================================================== Edit: After ParagonXVIII's civil reply, consider this complaint dropped. Please delete thread. ======================================================

Yeah bunged a report in the cheating thread, I don't want to like 'rat out' anyone but it is pretty bad conduct. No one should be protected, admin or not, and kicking for shooting at them is wrong. Mostly im just disapointed. After he said his friends were coming I ran up the hill to get a better vantage on my previous position. Was pretty excited at the prospect of a real firefight, never been in one, and the stakes were high for me so it was really tense. Previously getting shot out of nowhere with no idea of the enemy was a bit frustrating, the chance to actually fight was making things interesting.