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burying real suggestions with troll threads now?

I have a ton of things to say that all revolve around the suggestions Im going to present here and I hope that this is recieved well as I really hate the K.O.S. thing and hope to see a dayz where people wont kill you without a really good reason. I thought about this a bit and couldnt put a finger on exactly why I kill people other than there being nothing else to do. I think we could balance this game and add a great deal of realism with the following suggestions: 1) Less food / drink. Realistically, in a harsh post-apocalyptic environment, there wouldnt be cans of spaghetti and tactical bacon just laying around for you to indulge yourself endlessly. Realistically soda is NOT going to hydrate you nor will fake beer (Kvass). That would actually do the opposite. You couldn't just drink water straight out of a pond. Thats crazy. If you do that in real life you are going to get sick as a dog. In a post-apocalyptic and harsh environment where you are forced to scrape for food and water in whatever way you could you might get so sick from drinking lake water that you would die twice. I like how DayZ is more or less calorie based. You will get thirsty faster if you are running non-stop through the boons with a gun in your hand than you would if you were just sitting around a fireplace. Lets face it though, its way too easy. You have been able to spam drink out of ponds and wells on and off throughout the updates process more often than not and this is a solution. Get rid of the wells or make them contain only a certain amount of water before they are completely dry. Get rid of sodas and fake beers or make it realistic because those things would dehydrate you. With water in ponds (and perhaps even some of the wells) you should have to boil it before being able to safely drinking it. Thats how you would have to do it in real life. Water becomes a commodity. Get rid of or make it too rare to rely on canned foods. You will never see somebody desperate at an apple tree picking for dear life in the current state of DayZ. Couple cans of peaches and a can of spaghetti and you can run clear across the map before you need to worry about it again. You dont see people growing plants in gardens or picking berries or any of that because all the towns might as well be grocery stores. The food that is laying around should be more realistic as well because regular food would be the first thing to go. I dont think people would, in some disaster like this, just be leaving a trail of spaghetti and bacon from where it began to where they died. I dont know how to make sense of that in any way not to mention that if your primary diet were canned spaghetti and peaches you would probably have an insufferable case of the squirts. I could see a partial bag of dog food laying around instead of a bag of rice though. A can of cat food every here n there. I dont think it should be such a dream come true to eat a can of bacon though. How long would you last on this stuff in real life? You wouldnt enjoy it even if you could and you surely wouldnt feel energized all day after eating a can or two of spaghetti. 2) Additional Primative Technologies. 2a) Clay and Clay pottery. Typcially near water you can, even with a stone knife, easily dig up clay. You can clean the rocks and crap out of it and fashion pots and containers of all sizes and harden it by simply placing it in a fire. Thats real life stuff. I think that should definitely be part of DayZ (especially assuming the previous suggestions were implemented). You could then use clay pots to boil water to safely drink. You could store items in them. Possibilities. 2b) Stone Axe/Hatchet You could, in much the same way you can make a stone knife, make a stone hatchet or axe. I wouldn't imagine you could easily make a large axe without due diligence but it is definitely possible to create a hatchet with rock and chop a tree down with it. You would need a small rock and a large rock to do that in real life and I could see that working out just fine in DayZ as well. 2c) Sling. Again this one seems easy. Maybe in DayZ you could craft this with 2 ropes and small stones could be used as ammo. Slings are awesome. What more is there to say about slings? Pretty sure that needs to be a thing. 2d) Shelters / Mud huts I dont expect this one to happen any time soon but this could be an alternative to tents. There are all sorts of primative shelters that could be implemented in DayZ. I would expect that if it were implemented it wouldn't be something you could just set up in 5 minutes though. Might require some research. 3) More realistic foods I already touched on this a bit but only as concerns canned goods and random foods laying around. I would say, also on that topic, food shouldnt respawn. If its gone its just gone forever and only comes back when server restarts while still fairly rare especially inland. I dont think bananas should be laying around either. Pretty sure bananas arent indigenous to Russia now or ever. Same with any of the other fruits though- they dont last very long without the preservatives that are probably keeping the canned peaches safe to eat. Red Berries and Blue Berries? Thats kinda vague isnt it? I mean, not all blue berries are poison guys! The following is a small list of foods you would probably find on trees and plants in Russia: 3a) Almonds. Raw almonds can cause salmonella (as will raw chicken btw) so you would have to prepare them. Peel the husk and cook them in a fire would probably suffice (unless you want to run the risks of getting sick as crap). 3b) Bird Cherrys Edible, indigenous to Russia, and the bark from the tree is actually used to make tea which is medicinally used to treat sickness (colds and such). The possibilities here! 3c) European Barberry These are edible and this shrub has medicinal qualities as well. Apparently it is antibacterial and an antioxidant. Again you could make a tea from the plant that would do you good. 3d) Bearberry Again indigenous to Russia and edible both raw and cooked. 3e) European yew This is poisonous and will kill you if you eat it. 3f) Castor Beans Apparently just one bean has enough ricin in it to kill an adult human in just a few minutes. Its not a native russian plant but quoting wikipedia (with citation) it is "widespread throughout tropical regions (and widely grown elsewhere as an ornamental plant)." Could be fun to have in yards around houses n such. I think also that you should get hungry faster. Maybe thirsty a tiny bit faster as well. I think implementing the stuff ive suggested up to this point would force people to collaborate instead of just rushing to the base n shooting on sight. 4) Zombies I know there are plans to put more zombies in and there are new improved versions hot on their way but I think that filling those beautiful military bases to the top with zombies would be a great idea. I think they should get thicker and thicker as you get further inland. Its just way too wide open. Once you get to the next town over, inland, from the coast when you spawn you pretty much have a clean shot at where ever you might content going. You might get shot by somebody when you go to NWAF and try to get your hands on an SKS or something but if you dont you have another clear shot right back to the coast where you can shoot fresh spawns who are diving into the police station or whatever. I would really hate to be a new player in this game. I think the plan to throw in bears and wolves is great also. Thats really all I have to say about this. 5) Less guns on the coast (maybe less everywhere) I spawned in Kamyshovo the other day and was bored with all the running around so I just sat at the police station. I found a barrel and put it out front with a fire going on either side of it. I went in the police station and piece by piece took all the loot from it and put it in the barrel and saw that things were respawning in the police station as I was doing this. Nobody showed up and I got bored and went to Elektro and ended up doing the same thing when I found a barrel there but the point is that I was fully geared and ready for anything when I left Kamyshovo and with little to no effort. I had a skorpion with 2 mags, a trumpet folded up in my mountain backpack with 50 .22 rounds, a RAK with a mag in it that I was double carrying, and a magnum with 30 rounds. I was loaded up and didnt even search everything in Kamyshovo. Thats too easy. I was just hoping to run into somebody else - anyone - but nobody ever showed up and killed me without speaking a word as I assumed would happen. I ended up armed to the teeth and bright green healthy, hydrated, and energized instead. My suggestion probably wont be loved by all but I say end the respawn thing. I dont think guns should respawn and tactical gear shouldnt respawn either. The fact that everyone can get a high cap vest and TTsKO gear with a nice gas mask or gorka helmet or whatever they might fancy just makes the game all the less authentic and less reason to care if you survive or not. Its just that easy to go and get it all again. People will pass up that AK74-U in the name of getting the gun they like the best. If an identical scenario played out in real life you probably wouldnt pass up a dog turd that was shaped like a gun if it meant saving yourself. I just dont see how its good balance for all the guns to spawn so frequently. I really think all the K.O.S. stuff is just imbalance in the game. I hope you consider some of the stuff I suggested here (especially the clay and pottery stuff). I'm gonna go ahead and just leave it at this for now. Thx 4 reading this at the very least. I'll keep an eye on the thread for replies.

stay alive thread...

Id like more bow options though also. There are more things to do in DayZ than just PvP - A lot of people seem to be missing out on that fact. Anyway, it would also be great if we could make paper targets or some kind of target to actually be able to effectively USE the bow. I think thats one big assed reason that the bow isn't as "effective" is because it doesn't have iron sights and there really isnt a good way to figure out the range or become accurate with it. Need a few more tools. Sometimes Im not sure if were playing counter-strike or a survival game though... I hope they at least consider some of these things. I know IM bored to death with the lengthy loot-loot-loot-shoot-shoot-shoot-you-are-dead rinse and repeat stuff. Very stale. There arent a lot of options though. You could be barebooty-naked and somebody will still eventually come blow your face off with a glock 19 without saying a word to you... The sling! would probably be good to have paper targets for that too. The sling is an epic idea! TurPPu: The more threads the better I'd say. Feel free to add to this stuff though. I wouldn't be mad if this thread stayed alive at least long enough for the devs to acknowledge it (however often they actually read any of this stuff). :rolleyes:

dude, hes using 16GB of ram on a game engine that came out the same time DDR3 did. Perhaps DayZ isnt assuming he has 16GB of RAM while his PC just goes ahead and does what it does. Im wondering what parameters hes tried if any... We dont even know what particular OS this dude is rocking. Also he has changed his graphics card. There are a ton of things it could be but BIOS isn't where the fix is. inb4 driver mess: http://www.guru3d.com/content-page/guru3d-driver-sweeper.html

Id like to know what in BIOS needs adjusted that would affect DayZ and only DayZ. There is nothing.

http://www.dayztv.com/standalone/dayz-performance-guide-crash-fix/ check this stuff out. maybe some of the parameters would help you. -maxMem=16384 -malloc=system -cpuCount=4 in particular. have you tried any of this? For the love of God don't mess with your BIOS. Thats a bad idea.

Like this...

Maybe they will leave certain things the way they are... Same time you wouldnt be able to stick 1 handgun in all four of your pants pockets. We can do that now. Truth is you could tuck that in your waste band and still have pocket space... perhaps any pair of pants should function as a holster? that would probably make holsters obsolete though... oh well... they are going to add the rotation thing in either way...

server hopping... thats a whole different exploit. staying on subject; still nobody wants to tackle the fact that people dupe their whole inventory with both the current log in and log out situations we have... its like you close a window and 2 more windows open.

what if they plan on implementing manual gear rotation tho? :o

I guess there is a healthy level of glucose intake and an unhealthy level... Idk enough about that to really say one way or the other... thats probably different for everyone. There is still the cavities. http://www.wda.org/your-oral-health/sip-all-day Im not saying the idea to get soda out of machines is out of order or anything but it would be a touch of excessive without thinning out the supply that already exists. I've suggested the alternative of being able to boil water before you drink it vs just drinking it straight out of ponds and wells though, also. They should go for it. Add the soda machine thing but... add cavities too. and toothbrushes and toothpaste and all that lol

That doesn't keep you from getting cavities or dehydrating.

I can't remember a time when the 'logout dance' didn't exist. I've been playing since just shortly after the release of stand alone on steam. I've seen plenty of combat logs. I wont elaborate on the combat logging Ive seen so not to encourage it but I've seen plenty enough of it. Ive also seen (never actually attempted it) and as far as I know it is still possible to duplicate your whole inventory using both the current log in and log out situations if you have a friend that is equally as corrupt as yourself. I wont elaborate on that stuff either. I have seen at least one of those things had been reported but it didn't appear to have been resolved. Your thoughts?

On logging in: I don't recall anyone saying you should be able to look around and see whats going on before you jump in to the game. The problem isn't really that you might log into a gun fight right away. The problem is that the gun fight would occur while you were looking at a countdown or "Please wait..." You can be killed while you are looking at the please wait screen. On logging out: The logout dance doesn't prevent anyone from combat logging. In the event that you log out (during combat or not) your character does the dance. Its like the whole class is getting punished for something 1 guy did. The "dance" - It would be less a big deal if your guy wasn't sitting and standing and sitting and standing. Movement tends to draw attention. You can be killed while you are looking at the server list. Ive seen it exploited and used to duplicate entire inventory. In conclusion: I understand if the solutions offered here don't strike you as the greatest but as is you are just nay-saying. I don't understand what draws you to the thread with nothing to input aside from "you cant do this" and "you cant do that". Did you have something better in mind?

That video! Man, this would be so much scarier. Heart attack scary. + those zombie sounds are awesome!

It could have to do with the fact that the sun in game is pretty much the actual sun. If you catch it directly enough you will probably get yourself a headache and, who knows, maybe lose a bit of your vision as well. Might even end up with skin cancer from it. I think its a good source of vitamin D though.

I still say encouraging people to drink soda to become hydrated in this game is some sort of sneaky advertising and no part of it is reality. Does Pipsi pay them money to have this in their game? When will we start seeing 2-liters? I think we should add toothbrushes, tooth-paste, and crippling tooth aches to the game too if were going to continue down this road...

Dude... I know you are trying to say no to pooping but this vision of what it would become actually had me leaning the other way. Too funny! This whole thread has me conflicted! lol

(Yes vote) Not sure that this particular method of 'protection' is the best option but I agree that something should be done about the issue with logging and being present in game before you are able to assume control of your character. I've been on both sides of this badness. You actually spawn in game quite a good while before you assume control of your character. Its sketchy. Not really a problem if you have the opportunity to hide yourself in a safe place but server crashes/kicks/resets can and will get you. Also logging out is kinda sketchy in a similar manner. You exit and what you see is the server list right away. What a person in game is seeing while you are looking at the list is your guy sitting down and then standing back up and then he stands there for a minute before vanishing. You can still be killed while logging out. Its lame to try to run away from a fight but no matter where you log or why you are rolling the dice.

Part of me hates this suggestion... The other part of me knows you are right.

From what Ive gathered they are in the process of making that happen: http://www.dayztv.com/video/dayz-status-report-highlight-06-may-2015-0-56-info-new-inventory/

I don't mean to be hostile but some of this stuff has struck me offensive among other things. I apologize for what part I may have played in any of it. I don't feel its fair to everyone to delete the entire thread but I would be okay with deleting the preceding conversation between myself and pilgrim (all of my comments here if need be). I didn't start this thread though so I don't wish to encourage it being deleted in full. Again, I'm sorry if I came off as uncivil.

you are clearly a computer programmer / network engineer lol makes total sense... if you dont know what you are talking about... Rest my case. I've said everything I have to say about this subject at least twice now so if were not going to engage in conversation about or discuss in some new light the topic at hand I'd appreciate not being quoted so as to avoid the notifications on this thread that don't even concern me. Just the same I'd rather not repeat myself I don't really care to read every senseless reply either.