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Nope. Dumb idea. Never worked right to begin with. I didn't mind it personally, as I expect to be shot on sight anyway, but stop begging for easymode game identify hostiles for you. Also, were this to happen, I would run around wounding survivors and making them kill me, thus turning them into bandits.

Yep.. people don't play the game like you, thus it's destroying the game. THAT mentality is why people call other people carebears. Not calling you one. Just sayin'. Carebear.

It tells you where you are when you respawn. How is that disorientating?

You're obviously not the only one who got heated. I don't honestly disbelieve that you run in a group, but you often enjoy those solo periods that is apparent from what you've said in your posts. However for me, I like to spend virtually all my time with my group, to the point where I don't really even play without them. I know this isn't how everyone plays but it's how I have the most enjoyment.

I do agree in incentive/consequences to death, i'm just not sure a large chunk of time should be the price. I won't say in every case, but in many cases, you lose everything you had. Considering that this is more of a death penalty than most games even consider, i'm in the camp that it's enough. Losing your gear and having to spend large amounts of time reconnecting with your group seems extreme to me, and honestly, not very fun. I know this game is intended to be quite harsh, even brutal, however the end objective is still for it to be fun, isn't it?

It's more than just an inconvenience.. Not everybody can play until the wee hours in the morning(I can, but a couple guys in my group cannot), so anything that keeps us not playing together for a significant amount of time is a problem. Yes, we can scavenge in the mean time, but i'm not playing this game to be a lone survivor scavenging cherno and getting my face blown off by some toughguy sniper(or god forbid, a hacker). I think that's something else people are forgetting. They say die less, make each life count more.. Yeah, well, when you(general statement to those in the thread, not to whom I quoted) figure out how to survive a server nuke, you let me know. Oh boy, this is where you really display your ignorance. Have fun raiding Kamenka and Kamarova for essentially nothing but a few cans of food and drink. Really, great work there! I think i'm done dealing with you distorting my words into meaning something they don't. Examples of this being: Implying that simply scavenging is a multi-hour process, when that was never the point. Also, wanting teamplay is not 'instant gratifcation'. This isn't an opinion. What you said makes virtually no sense. You claim to be speaking english, and the words most certainly are, but you clearly don't understand their meaning. Once again, I must insist you shut the fuck up. Now, on to my favorite bullet point of yours. I wasn't suggesting maybe this change wasn't being made to prevent people from spawning close to where they wanted to be. It's a fucking fact. It can't be debate. Why is this? Because Rocket said so, that's why. But you wouldn't know that, because you, once again, really only care about things that force people to play the way you play. Of course I have a biased(though not terribly biased, like you) opinion. This change will seriously impact my group. I can tell you're a liar and a loner by the fact that this will not impact you at all and you've no concern for those who it does. This is what makes your opinion worthless. You only care for how the game plays for you. I'm all for working on a system that prevents spawn abuse and promotes grouping. That's the difference between my attitude and yours. You just want to pick off loners trying to find their friends. Seriously, i'm not asking. Just gtfo.

You're making a lot of assumptions here. If you're a fresh spawn, you don't have a map or compass(the latter being the only real important of the two). You aren't going to be able to run a straight line to your friends. If you try, you'd better not get turned around if you don't have a compass, or you'll easily double the time. Your estimates assume that you can run as the bird flies with zero complications on the way, which, I think we all know is unlikely even in the absolute best circumstances. It seems most people, on this issue, assume you can have a nice straight trouble-free run to your friends. Well, they justify it as such. Even though this literally never, ever happens.

I call bullshit on pretty much everything you've said here. What you've said is entirely inane. If we're on two opposite sides of the coast, you now want me to spend even MORE time scavenging before I meet up with them? This is now a multi-hour process. You're stupid for even thinking like that and it's obvious you do play alone or you'd know better. I stand by my statement. You play alone so everyone else should have to. Real nice. Like I said before, shut the fuck up. Your horribly biased opinion isn't needed because we've all seen your arguments before. Your 'my way or the highway' attitude on it makes you incapable of having any real discussion on the matter. Yet again I want to remind you that preventing people from 'selecting' their spawn isn't even why this change is being made, so stop barking up that tree. Not wanting to spend two hours getting to my friends because I died at the NW airfield(which i'm sure that just makes me bad, you've never died there) and they didn't is not wanting 'instant gratification'. But I guess that's how all you ex-call of duty'ers blend in.

And i'm tired of people referring to me wanting to be able to play with my friends as 'making the game easier'. Once again you're pushing your own agenda. You play alone so you want everyone else to play the game alone.

Nobody in this thread actually cares how it affects other players. They're too busy calling everybody lazy instead of realizing that grouping up can be extremely time consuming. They want it their way for no other reason than to deprive you of this time. It was never a debate and was always intended to be a trolololol as far as I can tell. Once again you have a portion of the population determined to have everybody play the game the same way they do.

Is that clear? No, I don't think so. I suspect the main reason for the respawns is the spread the population out on the server. That's what I think. I don't know this because I don't know that Rocket has ever discussed it. I do know why he is removing the respawn button, and it has nothing to do with people trying to reconnect with their friends or getting in the way of that. Please, don't assume you know the reason for a mechanic that is clearly controversial and will receive alterations of some kind. Maybe in your favor, maybe it will resemble something closer to what I prefer. I don't know. You don't know either. Shut the fuck up. Herp derp, you're lazy because you can't spend all night reconnecting to your group. 1/10 troll.

Probably will, since you're a loner and don't actually care about anti-grouping mechanics being implemented because it doesn't affect you. Don't pretend there's any other reason, you just want more opportunities to catch other people alone while trying to reconnect with their group. Allowing players to choose their spawn is exactly what should be implemented. Solves the problem Rocket is having and continues to promote group play. There would have to be obvious conditions to this, such as you certainly cannot spawn somewhere you just died(even if you start with nothing, it'd be bullshit for you to run into the area you died, find a gun, and kill that fellow who just killed you). Selective spawning does not have to be ridiculous. However telling somebody they have to run from Kamenka to Berezino since they were the only member of their group to die.. you don't find that ridiculous? And enough of this 10-15 minute walk. That is not even remotely close to the time it takes, even if you could bee-line straight to it.

Oh my. I thought you were all for this change? As I thought, you never thought out a single aspect of the change in the previous thread where you also looked stupid. Thanks for providing yet one more reason why this change is fruitless.

Well, I enjoy it at least.

Around 2 PM EST(Maybe 2:30), I believe, someone teleported everybody into the water south of Chernogorsk.

Don't expect everyone to play the game the way you think it should be played. No, my friends would probably not care what I found since I didn't end up meeting up with them again, proving to be a colossal waste of time. Suicides don't take 5 minutes, by the way. It shouldn't take more than one. That you can possibly imagine that somehow making it more difficult to group with your friends is a good idea is absolutely insane. Knowing that this change won't even do that yet you're still for it? Maybe you're just stupid.

Once again you completely ignore the fact that none of this is changed by the removal of the respawn button. Address this fact now or get the fuck out.

Why don't you READ THE FUCKING GUIDELINES IN THE PROPER FORUM?! Ahem, now if we're done with caps. You obviously cannot report the player if you don't know his name. This is correct. What you can do, however, is make a report in the cheat/server section listing the server name in the title of the thread and then describe the incident, confirm the server name, and the time it happened(Date too if it's not the same day anymore).

Rocket has a lot on his plate, hence why he makes experimental changes. Through posting and the posts of others, we see how this idea of his will a.) not solve the problem he specified(reduced character creations) and b.) simply cause annoyance within the current player base. It's not going to prevent me from suiciding to meet up with my friends faster(and it will still be faster than running across the entire map), so I will still be creating plenty of characters for the hive to deal with. Honestly, how this is so hard to grasp.. you people are literally retarded. There's absolutely no way to debate what i've said. These aren't opinions. Suicide by zombie = faster than walking from one end of the coast to the other. Suicide by zombie = additional characters created + in some circumstances loot spawns = more stress on the hive. Stop arguing and use your brain for a minute and explain to me how any of those points i've made are incorrect.

First off, it's not your thread. You don't own the servers it's hosted on and there is no implied ownership when creating a thread. Second off, go ahead and do what you want on your servers. Give me the name. You don't seem very concerned with the thought of having no hive access. The rules aren't bullshit. They're there to prevent abusive admins(which I suspect you are). However, the most important thing about them? They exist. You do not own the right to host a DayZ server. In fact, there are many people who are waiting for the opportunity to do the same. If you can't follow the rules, you'll be blacklisted and somebody with sense can run a server. Now give me the name. You don't care what the dev team says, so let's have this party.

Then your server would be blacklisted. A fix for this is in the works and no, as an admin, you do NOT have the right to ban for this. You want them to follow the rules then perhaps you should think about doing the same. This makes you exactly as much of a rulebreaker as the exploiter. What is your server so I can report it? After, of course, I go there and do what this guy did and you ban me.

Very good question. I'm curious about this myself. I've seen a lot of reports like this but nothing explains how they admins even knew.

I read the title of this thread and thought "Hmm, that's inappropriate for a DayZ post".

Ha. Nice catch and agreed.

It doesn't take significantly longer. Just enough longer to be annoying. Not enough to prevent me or anybody else who respawns until they are where they want to be from doing it. This change literally does nothing to alleviate the supposed problem. Stop arguing that it does. You're wrong. It doesn't. I also want to reiterate that putting anti-grouping mechanics in a game is a really, really good way to destroy the population.