minime1000

So when you license an engine you cannot modify it to fit your game? Biggest gripe for me are the hugely unintuitive first person controls. ARMA3 is a lot better but at times I still feel like controlling a tank and "why the hell do I have motor response problems suddenly"

Cryengine 2 or 3 could do it but that also costs a fortune. There are mmos running on the very first cryengine already.

Not very. I kinda like to be immersed but only on 1pp servers. on 3pp servers I just dick around and deathmatch, handcuff people, etc

Same can be said about 3rd person view and how it bastardizes the hardcore survival aspect. Private hives (which are modifications) will happen, rocket has confirmed that. Nothing wrong with mods. Everybody can choose what server they play on. And the authentic BI hive will still be more popular because it is much bigger and encompasses more servers for players to move between. I personally would hope a STALKER like mod is made. With the same atmosphere and level of detail as the real games.

I agree the engine is really clunky and bad but making a new one from scratch ain't that easy. Licensing another engine also costs a lot of money. e: dayz is hardly an mmo. 100 players is not massive online.

Agreed. The current gameworld feels too much like a stock island for a video game than an actual place where something happened. And underground metro/sewer system would be especially awesome.

Bumping so more people see this thread.

And what happens when they fix all that and then when they add new content something breaks again? keep doing it over and over and over against each time a new piece of content breaks the last optimization? Clasically betas are for fixing bugs and optimization

Explain further how this does not add nothing to the game.

Let's go even further. When it is night time and your turn your gamma up, the game detects it and shuts your monitor off as punishment. Sorry but ingame changes are one thing, affecting how other programs on your PC work is a whole other thing and will never happen. TS/Ventrilo ghosting is just one of those things you have to deal with on PC gaming.

I personally do not care about server hopping. The game has so much unrealistic stuff in it, one more thing won't change anything and I don't mind someone popping in and looting and then leaving. But if it gets fixed then good.

If the guns right now are not affected by condition then shame on them for implementing random deviation like it is some arcade game. Seriously hope it gets fixed.

Same can be said with non-permadeath. It does not change "the core mechanics of the game". Everything works the same way, people do the same things and everybody expects the same thing because everybody knows exactly how the server they join works.

"Everybody has it" argument has been dealt with time and time again. It does not work that way, and your corner peeking will not do anything against someone who is in distance and corner peek'd you first. Whoever sees someone first, especially in distance, has pretty much won no matter what solely because of 3rd person. He could be the worst player in the world and still has a huge advantage.

The gameworld is full of bushes, low stone walls, rocks, trees so there is zero problem finding cover to abuse anywhere. Not to mention the differences in terrain heights. KOSing is pretty easy even against a group as they have no idea where I am exactly and I can pop out at any time when I see I am safe to shoot. All because I happened to see them first. It is even better on large fields where I can see exactly where they are trying to take cover and hide after the first shot. I somewhat ignore KOS in towns but in wilderness because of the huge advantage I get by seeing them first I just engage. No matter how many of them there are. In 1pp servers I try to ignore confrontation as it is much more dangerous or nigh impossible to do this. Especially out in the open. I prefer 1pp but as long as 3pp is in and they are more populated, I might as well be a corner peeking asshole in there. Dslyecxi video shows everything that is wrong with 3rd person view and I agree but if you can't beat em, join em.

If people want even 40 different ways to play the game then they have every right to make servers that cater to those people. People are going to run private hives anyway so why not make options for some of the more fundamental things that people might find not to their liking like the view perspectives and permadeath. And there is no reason to compare to sinleplayer DayZ to MP. Of course I would get bored in a singleplayer mode. In 3rd person I can pretty much ignore any tactic and threat just by seeing stuff I shouldn't see. Looting, sneaking, combat is completely trivial with 3pp. I have KOS'd groups of 3s and 4s with a mosin because I happened to see them first and then corner peeked them on an open field behind a rock. That would never happen in 1pp because to be able to monitor them as they move about they would also be able to see me. The risk vs reward between 1st person and 3rd person is huge and completely changes how the game is played. It will affect you in the same way a private hive does, it doesn't. The only difference is if Rocket will make it easy to make such a server by giving a simple switch or hard.

Nobody moves and turns like this in real life. And when you say it is "realistic because of panic and stuff", I am not panicking when I am looting a house alone and I still need to move my mouse like I am in panic mode. And if they are willing to have something ridiculously unrealistic like 3rd person view in the game then they can also make FPS view playable as well. I do not move like a tank in real life, neither should I do in this game that is supposed to be realistic. Not to mention that you are comparing real life muscle control to mouse control and trying to simulate panic. How the hell does the game know how much I panic or not. FPS view is broken and negative acceleration one of the causes of it. They can have the same effect of not allowing you to turn around too fast by just limiting max speed with 1:1 input like some games do. I love how some people say "I play 3rd person view because FPS view is too clunky and slow" but then fixes for FPS view get shot down because some arbitrary realism reason that makes no sense compared to some the unrealistic stuff in the game, or "it works for me lol". Rocket messed up by even leaving it in from the get go. The only games I have seen do that are bad console ports.

This is trying to justify a horrible horrible thing like negative acceleration. It has to be removed. I might as well be playing with a controller. They should just limit the maximum speed you can turn around with 1:1 input (like OP stated), instead of suddenly applying a negative force if your mouse speed goes over the magical line 10 pixels a second too fast

10 minutes will be a complete failure on FPS servers. Everything is much slower there.

I don't even bother trying to figure out of he is a friendly or not, I just blast away.

People who say they like 3pp because they like to look at the scenery/clothes when looking at their character doing stuff or whatever would not be against the 4th wall mod because that will not stop you from doing any of that because it only affects combat situations/general survival where the crutch comes into play. Unless they are lying of course.

Did you really just say 3rd/1st person views do not affect the way you play the game a whole lot? All that beside, servers that do not have permadeath do not affect you in any way, be they private hives or separate official hives. It does not affect you. Addin that option in to help server makers would be very helpful.

Sorry for suggesting on a game that is in Alpha. And permadeath "is a fundamental rule that has to apply to everyone" according to you. What if I do not like crosshairs? why isn't non crosshair servers enforced on everyone. It is after all a hardcore realistic game and in real life I do not have a floating point that shows me where I am aiming. Same with 3pp/1pp: One is an arcade feature which makes fighting and surviving easy as hell but yet it is in the game. Just cause you do not like something does not mean others cannot have it, especially when it does not affect you in any way.

But if 3pp is left in the game then at least everyone can abuse it, I know I do. Be it zombies or against other players.

Those were DM servers. I am talking about this for RP servers. And people who say it is supposed to be brutal and hardcore, CoD has 3rd person and so has this game, which makes firefights easier in DayZ than in an arcade game so it is not actually that hardcore. The game is somewhat harder thanks to all the other stuff that you can do but you can do all that in a non-permadeath server. And again, it will hurt nobody who doesn't want to play it.